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<ArmbianTwitter> @RealDanct12 (Danct12): @themactep @armbian @orangepizero i have the exact same usb tester! https://tinyurl.com/y8k5x4n8 (31s ago)
<lanefu> Wow epic netsplits
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<Tony_mac32> haha
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<ArmbianTwitter> @NicoD99364191 (NicoD): New Media Script for #Armbian Buster Legacy on the #RK3399 https://t.co/roRe4b8Cuh via @YouTube https://tinyurl.com/yaqwjezd (15s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @themactep (Paul Philippov): @RealDanct12 @armbian @orangepizero Got a whole bunch of those but KCX-017 is a favorite :) https://t.co/6o3pGE3IPd https://tinyurl.com/ybek2ms3 (29s ago)
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<Tony_mac32> My son thought I was actually reading the kernel compilation output. I'm sad that I look more like a human in his eyes now
<Tony_mac32> XD
<lanefu> he's old enough to know the truth
<Tony_mac32> haha
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<Tony_mac32> FFS that thing would cool an i7
<Tony_mac32> it's a mini version of the Noctua I have on my 6800K XD
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<Tony_mac32> I can still see you Flyback
<Tony_mac32> XD
<[TheBug]> too bad its about equally as efficient as putting a 30mmx30mm Heatsink + fan which would cost you maybe 6$
<[TheBug]> from what I saw in peoples testing there is no real gain from that over just a base heatsink and fan
<[TheBug]> it looks cool
<[TheBug]> but I am not sure you get any real performance gain
<Tony_mac32> yeah, I stuck a 25x50 on my tinker with a 25mm fan
<Tony_mac32> impossible to overheat (10mm high)
<[TheBug]> you ever work up the courage to pull out that RockPi X yet ;p
<Tony_mac32> no, my hands haven't been steady enough with all the caffeinated alcohol
<[TheBug]> lol
<Tony_mac32> I mean, um, family time
<Tony_mac32> :d
<lanefu> hahaha
<Tony_mac32> CONFIG_RAM_RK3399_LPDDR4=y
<Tony_mac32> oops, I forgot that one
<Tony_mac32> XD
<archetech> no 5.11rc kern yet for N2
<chewitt> dmesg http://ix.io/2KGa
<archetech> nice
<archetech> everybodys got it but armbian
<Tony_mac32> lol everybody being 1 guy who does kernel dev
<Tony_mac32> c'mon man
<archetech> other arm distros
<Tony_mac32> Why any distro would provide an RC kernel is a really interesting question
<archetech> one's that dont use a patche 5.10
<archetech> d
<Tony_mac32> and why would they not?
<archetech> ask them
<Tony_mac32> I don't care, personally, I won't send a half-assed rc kernel out to users
<Tony_mac32> if they want it they can build it
<archetech> ofc not they offer it as a test kern
<archetech> so n2 users can have hw accel
<Tony_mac32> we don't have any dedicated N2 guys sadly, so it doesn't show up in 'dev' kernels
<Tony_mac32> I'm rolling around in Rockchips at the moment
<archetech> odroid even offers 2 kerns one w mali blob one panfrost
<Tony_mac32> I'm glad, it's their hardware
<archetech> both are way better than "The Pipe"
<archetech> get off the pipe
<Tony_mac32> we get a lot of "why don't you have" contributions to the project and almost no "look what I added" contributions
<Tony_mac32> so the pipe is what you get XD
<archetech> cuz of that monstrosity of a builder
<Tony_mac32> At the moment u-boot is being an asshole about RAM, which I'm working on
<archetech> ya 3399 gets lots of work
<chewitt> so true
<chewitt> @Tony_mac32 btw, I have been fiddling with alsa confs recently trying to get audio coming out of the right speakers
<archetech> lol yeah not relevent to this convo
<chewitt> current changes in my alsa-lib repo seem to work well with G12 devices
<archetech> not like im asking for some special feature just for own use
<Tony_mac32> chewitt I saw some patches in the pipeline, cool
<chewitt> ^ learned that in the proces
<chewitt> not sure how well that will be received
<chewitt> like all children, I learn by making mistakes
<chewitt> and mostly everything I touch with audio is treated as a mistake :)
<lanefu> its cool you got it submitted at least
<Tony_mac32> yeah, the SoC identifier seems superfluous at best
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<chewitt> feel free to send supportive comments to the mailing list
* lanefu needs to level up his mailing list game
<archetech> chewitt, how do you compile your kernel ?
<chewitt> same way you'd compile anyone else's kernel I guess
<archetech> on n2 or in a vm
<archetech> lots of ways to build kerenls
<archetech> I anr send support ive mail if I cant get straight answers
<archetech> make mrproper make menuconfig make
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<Werner> Seems like armbian-zsh install resets keyboard layout
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<HoSe_Colonia> Hi team, I am quite new to SBCs and in addition to my RasPi 4B, I made myself a Christmas gif: Nanopi NEO3 and R4S...
<HoSe_Colonia> And I just compiled my first Armbian kernel last night: and I have to say: THANK YOU! Works like a charm... 2:37h compile time on an old Macbook and it just boots without any problem :-) GREAT WORK!
<HoSe_Colonia> Linux nanopi-r4s 5.9.16-rockchip64 #trunk SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 3 01:01:20 CET 2021 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<Werner> Thanks. But you can actually use premade images too if compiling takes too long ;)
<HoSe_Colonia> Yeah, well... I am working on a cross compile VM anywhere... so, it was a test :-)
<Werner> Native building is also in development, so you can actually use your R4S or Neo3 to build new images for them
<Werner> Will not be any faster but much more energy efficient :)
<HoSe_Colonia> Nice benchmark...
<HoSe_Colonia> Regarding the Nanopis... I do really wait for the metal cases... the white marshmallow for the NEO3 is just... hot and for they had only the plain R4S on stock At Antratek... let's keep fingers crossed there will be cases soon... currently I do use a small fan for the R4S...
<Werner> I dont have cases for any of my boards with the exception of the station P1 which I was gifted
<Werner> I have some nice copper heat sinks I glue on
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<HoSe_Colonia> Right, that was my next idea for the R4S... a big heatsink.
<Werner> I ordered one two days ago. Let me see where that mail was...
<Werner> the 20x20 one
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<Werner> hey lane
<lanefu> Hiya
<Werner> Would fit H3 also but they dont really need any cooling
<Werner> simply glued on with thermal adhesive
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<Werner> Guess the story was boring...
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<Werner> wb
<lanefu> Yeah those heat sinks are good. I need to get thermal adhesive i only found the tape stuff
<HoSe_Colonia> Well... Aliexpress says "No delivery to Germany"... how much are the shipping charges?
<Werner> I am from germany and ordered without trouble. shipping was no charge for the bigger heatsink
<HoSe_Colonia> OK. will check. Thanks. I you need someone to run tests on R4S images... drop a note in the Armbian forum :-)
<Werner> I have an R4S here... :P
<Werner> s/an/a
<ArmbianHelper> Werner meant to say: I have a R4S here... :P
<IgorPec> we need someone to hack around bluetooth
<HoSe_Colonia> Fair enough.
<IgorPec> i think its not working. perhaps its just a wrong / missing firmware
<Werner> Btw there is bluetooth stuff installed with the R4S image but this thing does not have any wifi stuff on?
<IgorPec> ups, perhaps it doesn't have it :)
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<HoSe_Colonia> Don't think so. No mentions on the FriendlyArm Wiki.
<IgorPec> yeah, too many boards syndrom
<Werner> ah well never mind. Its just dependencie for this NetworkManager thingy...
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<HoSe_Colonia> Again, well done. Thank you very much. I'll keep in touch. Have a great Sunday!
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<lanefu> what chip is bluetotothwifi on the r4s
<Werner> none
<lanefu> oh
<lanefu> i guess igor was talking about somethign different
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<Tony_mac32> werner I think 'an' R4S is probably more correct, since "R" is like "aaarrrr" like a pirate. XD
<lanefu> IgorPec: Werner maybe u-boot v2020.10 needed to be on our release tracking list
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<Werner> dont know
<Werner> Tony_mac32, lol
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* Tony_mac32 sees a few things broken right now on rk3399 u-boot, agrees 2020.10 needs to be tracked and thoroughly tested
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<omenius> is there command like "raspi-config"?
<Tony_mac32> armbian-config
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<lanefu> blerg power out.... can't decide if i want to drag generator out just to preserve uptime lol
<lanefu> i need to change the oil i guess gettin git out is inspiration
<lanefu> the show must go on at lanecloud
<Tony_mac32> rofl
<IgorPec> lanefu: 2020.10 is beeing tested by piter ... some issues around rockchip
<IgorPec> but its fine for meson and sunxi
<Tony_mac32> looks like the Friendlyarm "one u-boot for every board" code busted the RAM init
<Tony_mac32> I sent my issue to Piter because he is the wizard :D
<Tony_mac32> I removed those R4S patches and I got past the ddr init
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<Tony_mac32> that one
<IgorPec> but will r4s boots after that?
<IgorPec> but we can put that into per board anyway
<Tony_mac32> right
<IgorPec> so it was not enough going to 2020.07 ?
<Tony_mac32> FriendlyARM should should have found a different way to handle that, but it is what it is
<Tony_mac32> 2020.07 is the one I'm currently working with
<Tony_mac32> since 2020.10 is in-process
<Tony_mac32> for release though I don't see why we wouldn't use the newer, we need to figure out how to reduce the number of special cases going on in that family at the same time
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @NicoD99364191: New Media Script for #Armbian Buster Legacy on the #RK3399 https://t.co/roRe4b8Cuh via @YouTube https://tinyurl.com/ycfys3ds https://tinyurl.com/yajamjjy (23s ago)
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<lanefu> i decided to take the full outage
<lanefu> gotta love waiting for everything to startup
<[TheBug]> nice
<[TheBug]> er refferring to Nicos post
<[TheBug]> sweet I am gonna have to test that out when my new RockPi 4c comes Friday
<lanefu> what was nicos post
<[TheBug]> GPU / VPU acceleration for Legacy Armbian images for rk3399
<lanefu> ahh
<[TheBug]> supposedly supporting full 4k playback via vpu
<Tony_mac32> that was on again off again on the Tinker as well, the Rockchip 4.4 kernel is a total sunuvabitch to keep happy
<Tony_mac32> regular care and feeding is required, and then they merge some bullshit that breaks everything
<[TheBug]> he says it will work with any rk3399 Legacy Armbian image
<[TheBug]> er sorry
<[TheBug]> Legacy Buster Armbian Image*
<Tony_mac32> we froze the kernel at some point, we raised enough noise that Rockchip started tagging releases
<Tony_mac32> I can be that annoying
<lanefu> Tony_mac32: you should keep track of yuor yells and wins
<Tony_mac32> rofl
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<lanefu> seriously
<lanefu> it might show some industry patterns
<Tony_mac32> Well, the Tinker 2 definitely has a fix for very nearly every single complaint I made about the original
<tmaurice> Hey ! is there a special module to load for the LED trigger thing on a netdev action ? Because I finally recieved my Helios64, and the LAN led keeps dark and when I try to configure it via sysfs i get an 'invalid argument error' when setting the trigger to netdev
<IgorPec> tmaurice: you have searched forums?
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<tmaurice> @IgorPec: indeed but nothing relevant came up. The weird thing is it worked once, then after a reboot vanished
<IgorPec> you mean it vanished after kernel ugprade or just by rebooting?
<IgorPec> anyway its this board specifics so i sugesst you do ask in forums
<tmaurice> The only thing I did between reboots was installig docker
<Tony_mac32> I see jmcc also updated the Rk3288/RK3328 media scripts as well
<tmaurice> I'll check the forums again then
<IgorPec> yes, its very slim chanches that a person that knows such detail is present right now
<Tony_mac32> worst case if you ask duplicate question it gets merged, no big deal
<IgorPec> but the board comes back, right?
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<tmaurice> Yeah the board comes up perfect, I can even pilot the LED using the "brightness" path, just the 'netdev' trigger is unexplicably missing
<IgorPec> ok, no idea
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<Tony_mac32> oOo, playing with some WebGL demos on the Tinker board, not bad
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<Tony_mac32> as a side note, we don't have any buster-legacy-desktop images for Tinker at least
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<Blind55> Hi!
<Werner> Hi
<Tony_mac32> hahaha I just replied to you in the forum
<Tony_mac32> you go into armbian-config and you can install the desktop
<Blind55> hehehehe, gotcha :) Thank ou so much for your reply!
<Blind55> Alright, I will go ahead and play with that!
<IgorPec> tony_mac32: so we need a buster legacy desktop for tinker?
<Tony_mac32> I couldn't find it in the listing of available images, and it's not on my torrent server either
<IgorPec> strange
<IgorPec> true, its missing
<IgorPec> probably multiimage building was set too high
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<IgorPec> i guess we should rather go for a server with 1TB of memory :)
<Tony_mac32> :D
<Tony_mac32> oh, I see homeassistant has Tinker with newest u-boot, I'm going to see wtf I've been doing wrong XD
<IgorPec> with USB function or without?
<IgorPec> i think keeping that was a problem
<Tony_mac32> well u-boot support for that has improved. Asus disabled that btw XD
<IgorPec> you mean flashing via USB doesn't work anymore ?
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<IgorPec> its a handy function
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<IgorPec> but you can also flash to SD card directly - if you have one of the old tinkers?
<IgorPec> strange
<IgorPec> mine works
<Tony_mac32> well armbian does :D
<Tony_mac32> I don't know what their reason for it was
<IgorPec> its not clear to me neither
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<Tony_mac32> anyway, they have a habit of some hacking, like editing source files when values can be overridden in the config file
<Tony_mac32> so once I get it to behave and boot I can try out doing UMS the right way
<IgorPec> is ums supported in some common way now?
<IgorPec> haven't dug into that area for a while
<Tony_mac32> DM_USB_GADGET
<Tony_mac32> in theory you should be able to use that
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<IgorPec> also on some allwinner?
<Tony_mac32> I think it's tied to the Designware driver, so it should, that's why I'm interested in poking at it
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<HerculeP> hny everyone, mirror issue: apt update E: Failed to fetch https://minio.k-space.ee/armbian/apt/dists/buster/buster-desktop/binary-armhf/Packages.gz Hash Sum mismatch :(
<IgorPec> working on it
<HerculeP> 2nd attempt worked from netix.net
<IgorPec> when building images?
<IgorPec> some caches / images have corrupted index ...
<HerculeP> nah, just regualr apt update
<HerculeP> old Debian Buster with Armbian Linux 4.14.150
<IgorPec> this should help ... but i am getting segmentation fault sometimes :)
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