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<Tony_mac32> sudo/focal-security,focal-updates 1.8.31-1ubuntu1.2 arm64 [upgradable from: 1.8.31-1ubuntu1.1]
<Tony_mac32> apt update and upgrade immediately if you haven't today, Ubuntu had to fix sudo
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<lanefu> Yah the sudo patching is gonna be fun
<lanefu> I wonder how fast they'll roll it to older "supported" releases
<stipa> never
<stipa> imagine, on my laptop the coolin pipe broke
<stipa> at one spot and all fluid went out
<stipa> it was overheating like crazy
<stipa> hitting 90 C
<stipa> new used cost like 30$ plus shipping
<stipa> that's going to wait...
<stipa> i bodged some heatsinks on cpu and gpu just to keep it running
<archetech> fluid?
<stipa> yeah, you know
<stipa> those copper pipes
<archetech> no fuld in them
<stipa> that go from cpu and gpu to the fan
<archetech> fluid
<stipa> yeah, fluid
<stipa> that's how it works i guess
<stipa> something to do with the fluid inside
<archetech> its hollow copper
<stipa> nope
<stipa> i din't spit inside, beleive me
<archetech> never seen that ever cept for after market
<stipa> original cooler
<stipa> archetech: this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/253938277639
<stipa> it broke both on cpu and gpu, where the copper plate copnnects to the pipes
<stipa> and some of the fluid went out
<stipa> the fan couldnt cool cou and gpu beacuse of that
<stipa> they were mad host and fan at max
<stipa> host*
<stipa> hot*
<archetech> not to belabor it but I think you're wrong
<stipa> nope
<stipa> this time i'm not
<archetech> prove its a stock liquid system
<stipa> it's indentical to the one on the picture https://www.ebay.com/itm/253938277639
<archetech> that dont prove it
<stipa> oh wow, it's not
<stipa> mine has only one pipe to the cpu cooler
<stipa> the one farther apart from the fan
<stipa> further*
<stipa> i'll take a photo
<archetech> just put some artic silver etc on the 2 plates if the fan is ok
<stipa> yeah it's logical
<stipa> but the system won't work if there are wholes on it
<archetech> yes it will still conducts around a hole
<stipa> heat stops flowing through the pipe and never arrives to the fan
<archetech> how'd it get a hole in it?
<stipa> have no idea
<stipa> with time cooler just blew faster and faster
<stipa> over long period
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<archetech> tharts a sign of a plugged up fan
<grae> hey lanefu, not to be a pest, but did you get a chance to clear that "newly joined" thing from my forum account?
<stipa> archetech: https://ibb.co/NVHdQYR
<archetech> id take the black part apart
<stipa> no dust
<archetech> canned air
<stipa> there's no dust
<stipa> i celaned it
<stipa> it's logical that heat will travel through copper but it doesn't do it fast enough if there are holes
<stipa> and cpu and gpu overheat
<stipa> that's the story
<stipa> or the heat never arrives to the radiator
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<stipa> it's like it travels eith the fluid
<stipa> not with the copper that pipes are made of
<stipa> i guess that's like with the car
<stipa> if pipe is broken machine overheats
<grae> one of those heat pipes with alcohol or whatnot in them? moves more heat by boiling the fluid and condensing on the other side?
<stipa> or if there is no fluid
<stipa> grae: yeah
<stipa> half of the pipe was luke warm and the other half nearer to the cpu and gpu is hot
<stipa> it's not alcohol inside
<stipa> some smelly fluid
<stipa> it didn't burn my hands or something
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<stipa> maybe just water
<grae> bet not. hope you washed your hands
<stipa> nope
<stipa> hands are ok
<stipa> in either case i have lost a machine
<stipa> gpu is heating mad host. my bodged fan for gpu didn't help
<stipa> it's nvidia...
<stipa> and not in use
<stipa> i guess intel inside of the cpu is in use
<stipa> go figure
<stipa> overheating gpu not in use
<Tony_mac32> lanefu I think the sudo patch is alread out for 16.04 and up
<archetech> stipa: your pic shows no paste on it
<archetech> paste is for conduction
<Tony_mac32> and a whiter smile
<archetech> use a thin layer and try it again
<stipa> archetech: i cleand it, i alread ripped some parts to improvise with cooling
<stipa> the pipe leakes
<stipa> that's it
<archetech> they dont leak
<stipa> for me they do
<Tony_mac32> heat pipes?
<stipa> yea
<stipa> laptop
<stipa> heat pipes
<Tony_mac32> they have a fluid in them, did you crack them?
<stipa> they cracked by themselves
<Tony_mac32> oof
<stipa> yeah, some fluid went out
<stipa> few drops
<stipa> bud i guess it evaporated before slowly
<archetech> ok its called working fluid its not "filled" with liquid is what I meant
<stipa> no
<stipa> you don't fill itin by yourself, that's true
<archetech> article says yes if that tiny bit of fuild in there leaks out you lose conductivity
<stipa> right
<archetech> id still try some paste but I would nt use it to compile source
<stipa> i did
<stipa> that already few times
<stipa> and then i spotted it leaks
<archetech> ebay heat pipe lottery for you I guess
<stipa> yeah, but for 20$ something for shipping i can buy sbc that is equaly strong as that laptop...
<stipa> so, i'm not willing to inest
<stipa> ivest*
<archetech> what model cpu is it
<stipa> intel
<stipa> 2009
<stipa> i3 or something like that
<stipa> it can run linux
<stipa> 8GB ram
<stipa> nice machine
<stipa> i made cpu for the cpu but i'm trying to make one for the gpu
<stipa> fan for the cpu*
<stipa> archetech: https://ibb.co/TmZPNyx
<stipa> the big chip without cooler is the gpu
<archetech> ive cobbled alot cooling but not a laptop
<archetech> gl
<stipa> it's not laptop i'll like use
<stipa> it'll just be plugged in and i'll remote into it
<lanefu> grae: i think so i thought i did a few days ago
<lanefu> Does your profile still say validating
<grae> still says "recently joined", is that the same thing?
<grae> scratch that, I can post more than once a day, huzzah!
<grae> apologies, thought something had been missed
<grae> thanks lanefu!
<lanefu> No worries
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<IgorPec> good morning
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<ArmbianTwitter> @smishtw (Ismish): @armbian @Jocix84 Is KDE joining any time soon? https://tinyurl.com/y4zlxx2n (26s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @smishtw @Jocix84 Initially we added KDE, but later removed since we have no resources to maintain more than two desktops - additional will exists if someone wants to maintain them. Documentation how to add them and support plan is still in the works. Ain't hard but requires time and dedication. https://tinyurl.com/y453xwbd (20s ago)
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<DarthGandalf> IgorPec: hi, was it fixed upstream?
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<IgorPec> yes, i think that's it. anyway we don't get reports anymore, my two test devices doesn't suffer from this problem aynmore
<IgorPec> but have some others :)
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<DarthGandalf> I'm unable to test the latest kernel right now, but I'll do it ASAP :)
<ArmbianTwitter> @foss2go (FOSS2go): @armbian Desktop strikes back 😉 Gnome, Deepin, Mate, Xfce, Budgie will come to ARM devices 💪 We are currently testing the Armbian focal with @gnome on @pine64 #PinebookPro and we must admit that the whole thing makes a great impression 👏 https://t.co/GmlAFQoBF9 https://tinyurl.com/y2zcj89x (16s ago)
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<Werner> does forum have issues atm or is it just me?
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<IgorPec> werner: what kind of?
<Werner> poor performance. very long loading
<HerculeP> Werner: works normally here
<Werner> hm okay
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<HerculeP> every two month or so I have to reboot my router (FritzBox) if everything slows down
<Werner> Its not everything but forums in particular. Maybe temporary bad routing or whatever
<IgorPec> you have ipv6?
<Werner> dual stack
<IgorPec> this takes few seconds
<IgorPec> and its always that way i think
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @foss2go: @armbian Desktop strikes back 😉 Gnome, Deepin, Mate, Xfce, Budgie will come to ARM devices 💪 We are currently testing the Armb… https://tinyurl.com/yyvsncod https://tinyurl.com/y2jep7bm (30s ago)
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<grae> just curious, anyone have a nanopi m4v2 handy?
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