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<omnitechnomancer> daveshah: does ECP5 have any IOB enum settings that have bits split between the IOB tile and the CIB tile?
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<daveshah> omnitechnomancer: not really, although T is tied off to 0 in the CIB for (non-tristate) outputs
<daveshah> But you could also tie it off elsewhere, so I'm not really sure if that counts as part of the IO config
<omnitechnomancer> I need to check some of the other ones but I suspect a bunch of the reset, clock and clock enable stuff in the IO is actually reusing the equivalent bits in the routing block that are also used in the PLBs
<omnitechnomancer> The TS mux seems to only have the invert bit in the IO conifg tile, I suspect to get 0 and 1 it is tied to 0 in the routing block
<daveshah> Yes, that would make sense
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<omnitechnomancer> I am having some strangeness with the config I do get, I suspect I might need to have different blocks not just the miscs_mic_io things
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<omnitechnomancer> I think I'll need to do that anyway since I think there is a miscs_mic_io_l where there is no associated IO
<tnt> I need an app where I can film led blinking, enter the width of my fpga counter, and it tells me the frequency of the clock.
<omnitechnomancer> That might have large uncertainty?
<sensille> tnt: at least most metronome apps have a tap button
<omnitechnomancer> tpw_rules do you have anything I could read on generating plasma effects?
<tnt> omnitechnomancer: obviously, but I'm not looking for super precise measurements, just ball park to check if it's anywhere near what I expect.
<sensille> DMM -> Hz
<tnt> sensille: mmm, just tried, I think blinking is too slow, readings are all over the place.
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<omnitechnomancer> Make blinking faster?
<tnt> Sure, but I usually like to keep it slow enough that I can visually see that (1) it's blinking and (2) if they're locked / drift vs one another.
<tnt> I can also walk to the scope and plug it in. I would just have loved to get something convenient, always in my pocket that I can use for that.
<sensille> so, no other way, you have to write that app
<sensille> (i'd just time 10 blinks by hand)
<daveshah> There are apps that determine power by measuring the blink rate of the LED on the meter (a thing in the UK at least)
<daveshah> I don't know if any give a raw Hz value but it's definitely a concept that exists
<omnitechnomancer> Aren't they counting blinks?
<daveshah> They count blinks for total energy
<daveshah> But they must determine blink rate as I'm sure some give power measurements too
<omnitechnomancer> Ah yes, the blinks are kWh or a scaling factor of them
<tnt> So after checking ... my ref clk is ~ 368 MHz instead of 122.88 MHz that might explain why I'm having trouble locking the serdes.
<daveshah> Yeah, PLLs are usually generous but not that generous...
<tnt> And given the xtal connected to it is 122.88 I'm pretty sure it's just ... signal integrity. I guess my bode to try and get LVPECL crystal into a LVDS input isn't working as I had hoped.
<tnt> s/crystal/oscillator/
<daveshah> Yeah, seems like you've hit the 3rd harmonic somehow
<daveshah> Or two glitches per cycle
<tnt> The lattice diagram is ... unclear
<tnt> (1) the ac coupling capacitors are _tiny_ on this diagram ... who the hell drew this. (2) "External 100-ohm termination should be enabled". But the diagram doesn't show any 100 ohm external termination.
<daveshah> They're small to indicate 0201 package :p
<tnt> and the other diagrams in that document are no better ...
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<gruetzkopf> power meter blinks are commonly 3.6 joules
<gruetzkopf> many meters spit out a horrible descriptor over infrared though,that's much more precise
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<tnt> Has anyone tried using the UART on the ECP5-EVN board ?
<tnt> There is two resistors that are DNI to solder, but even beyond that I can't get the damn thing to work.
<daveshah> I think someone mentioned an EEPROM issue too
<tnt> Oh, interesting tx.
<tnt> of course the utility linked doesn't work but at least it's a lead.
<emeb> FTDI chips - ubiquitous and terrible.
<tnt> I just erased the eeprom ... seems to work
<tpw_rules> OmniMancer: assuming you're omnitechnomancer, no not really? i did several years ago, but the message i got was a set of equations that i just keep reimplementing
<tpw_rules> OmniMancer: https://github.com/tpwrules/ice_panel/blob/master/plasma_pygame.py#L8 t is in seconds, x and y are -0.5 to 0.5, that color tuple is -1 to 1 in linear rgb
<OmniMancer> tpw_rules: thanks
<Zorix> i have had issues with an ftdi cable for jtag.. had to add inline resistors to make it work for loading a bitstream to a spartan 6
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<davidc__> Zorix: the long 1m ones, right? They have too much crosstalk for the edge rates on the cable
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<Zorix> its not quite that long
<Zorix> half meter
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<tnt> Can you feed the recovered RX clock as the reference clock for the TX PLL of a serdes ?
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<tnt> LIFCL-40-EVN got an estimated ship date now ... End of Feb 2020
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<emeb> hmmm... somethings recently broken in nextpnr building. Used to work fine on my Fedora 30 system but now it fails during cmake, complaining that it can't find boost python3 headers.
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<emeb> hmm... adding a link for libboost_python3.so seems to fix that. weird
<emeb> (fedora has libboost_python37.so)
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