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<Vrooom>
what are those blobs folders in clockworkmod folder ?
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<krnlsndr1>
I am a developer with vanilla kernel experience but would like to get involved in Android system development. I have a fair amount of experience with bringing up kernel versions and backporting features which I would like to bring to android. Can anyone point me at any good resources for self-guided learning? Even interesting repos that show the process/approach you guys use?
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<atinm>
get the "building from source" link, and integrated kernel building
<atinm>
find a phone that is already supported and try building for it
<atinm>
then try on a phone that isn't supported.
<krnlsndr1>
I have already built multiple kernels following those directions and am running my own build on my epicmtd device
<atinm>
code is all there - if you can code, you can do this.
<atinm>
other than that there isn't much - just find/fix bugs :)
<krnlsndr1>
I looked through the CM repos, but a lot of the device support commits are big merge blobs which don't show the process behind how it was accomplished
<atinm>
oh, process.
<atinm>
there isn't any..blobs are just pushed directly.
<atinm>
binary blobs.
<krnlsndr1>
Shouldn't have said blobs
<atinm>
other than that - actual coding isn't really done using any process other than fix/fix/gerrit
<krnlsndr1>
I mean the commits are a bunch of code that changes the world
<krnlsndr1>
One sec, let me give you an example
<atinm>
we aren't doing a lot of multistage design if that's what youre looking for. we're basically taking what google writes and port it
<krnlsndr1>
For example, looking through the kernel repo for smdk4412, I see this commit with the message "n7100 support"
<krnlsndr1>
It touch 127 files, +164k/-132k lines
<atinm>
something like that usually means we merged in a kernel tree from samsung.
<atinm>
or pulled in a repo that someone else pulled from samsung.
<atinm>
large numbers of files touched is usually that. samsung does not give us nice repos to pull from.
<atinm>
they just give us a repo with one big commit.
<atinm>
with no history.
<krnlsndr1>
So they drop you a tarball instead of giving you a repo with history?
<atinm>
you can ignore those.
<atinm>
exactly
<krnlsndr1>
gotta love it
<atinm>
they used to give us tarballs and we complained and begged for git repos
<atinm>
so they gave us git repos.
<atinm>
with the tarball pushed to them :-P
<krnlsndr1>
So I looked at the smdk4412 repo because I recently picked up a Note 2 ATT. I love the hardware but I am learning that the software support around Exynos 4 is less than ideal.
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<Rebellos>
krnlsndr1: It's at least *far* from ideal, not less. ;P
<atinm>
krnlsndr1: avoid.
<atinm>
like plague.
<atinm>
exynos4 is dead.
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<atinm>
dead to me anyway
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<atinm>
and as far as anyone on CM goes too.. cm9 was end of line ;)
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<krnlsndr1>
I had a d2att a few months ago but decided to return it and wait for the Nexus 4, but lack of LTE was really disappointing
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<Jiangyi>
Well, it kinda has LTE.
<Jiangyi>
Band 4 anyways. :-P
<Jiangyi>
I'm not sure how widely AT&T uses band 4 in the states.
<krnlsndr1>
Band 4 is AWS so 2.1/1.7 right? Not sure how much of AT&T is on the 700MHz compared to that
<atinm>
at&t is supposed to start using it or something but hasn't yet
<Jiangyi>
I've heard things about T-Mobile using that in the future too.
<krnlsndr1>
If I believed in imaginary future LTE networks I would have stayed on Sprint
<Jiangyi>
I still don't even have mobile data. lol
<Jiangyi>
Prices up here in Canada is just.....
<krnlsndr1>
I am reading Andrew Dodd's posts about "superbricking" the i777 and n7000 now which is starting to illustrate the severity of the problems with this SoC
<krnlsndr1>
Entropy's posts should I probably say
<atinm>
yeah. like I said, avoid.
<atinm>
not a good phone to start with..
<atinm>
get a nexus 4 ;)
<atinm>
or a sony xperia if it has lte
<atinm>
the T.
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<krnlsndr1>
US GS3 variants seem like a reasonable device
<krnlsndr1>
They use a Qualcomm chipset instead of the Exynos
<atinm>
yes, that's fine.
<Entropy512>
Superbrick was defective flash memory, it was in nearly all of their 2011 devices
<Entropy512>
whether Exynos or not
<krnlsndr1>
I am on post 2
<Entropy512>
Xperia T is your best non-Nexus bet right now
<krnlsndr1>
Don't get too far ahead of me
<krnlsndr1>
;)
<Entropy512>
TL on AT&T currently has locked bootloader
<Entropy512>
but Sony may start selling one with unlockable BL directly in Jan/Feb
<atinm>
oh.
<krnlsndr1>
Optimus 4X has locked bootloader too, right?
<Entropy512>
believe so
<Entropy512>
ok time for TV
<Jiangyi>
Optimus G might be a way to go I guess.
<Entropy512>
that has a locked BL for sure
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<Jiangyi>
Entropy512: There seems to be ways of unlocking it/putting the N4 bootloader on it.
<krnlsndr1>
So it's about as locked as the d2vzw?
<atinm>
Jiangyi: really? I guess it is very similar
<atinm>
with same hardware - kinda scary tho :)
<Jiangyi>
Yeah, extremely so it seems.
<Jiangyi>
Thracky did it to his Optimus G.
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<Awys>
hi guys i will build CM10.1 for Galaxy S but i have one problem how i can fix it can anyone tell me please ?
<Awys>
device/samsung/galaxysmtd/overlay/frameworks/base/core/res/res/values/config.xml:33: error: Resource at config_deviceHardwareKeys appears in overlay but not in the base package; use <add-resource> to add.
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<Jiangyi>
Awys: Just comment that config out for now. The related feature's not there in CM10.1 yet.
<atinm>
Awys: erm..wait for pawitp to log on
<atinm>
or that. :)
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<Awys>
okey thanks
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<Thracky>
yes, optimus g bootloader unlock was achieved by using unlocked n4 bootloader
<Thracky>
very reversible
<krnlsndr1>
AOSP or CM ported to Optimus G?
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<rhcp>
got
<rhcp>
god
<rhcp>
i hate samsung
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<rhcp>
I want to build a kernel here
<rhcp>
won't compile using their own shit
<rhcp>
cc1: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-mlittle-endian’
<rhcp>
cc1: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-mapcs’
<chris41g>
thats a toolchain problem
<chris41g>
but sammy sources rarely ever compile ootb
<rhcp>
its a system problem on my end
<rhcp>
lol
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<rhcp>
ok
<rhcp>
OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/zImage
<rhcp>
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/zImage is ready
<rhcp>
kk
<rhcp>
:)
<rhcp>
play time later
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<rhcp>
bored
<Awys>
pawitp are you there ?
<pawitp>
yes?
<Awys>
today i have build 4.2.1 from sources
<Awys>
i have make all pacth's
<Awys>
but after reboot
<Awys>
phone
<Awys>
unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped.
<Awys>
i cant make something
<pawitp>
I don't provide support for source building
<pawitp>
if you're building source at this stage, you should know what you're doing
<Awys>
okey thank you.
<rhcp>
heh missing some telephony
<rhcp>
logcat helps
<chris41g>
its a framework thing im sure.. my 4.2 also does it, missing icc provider or some such shit
<Awys>
but i can't take logcat
<chris41g>
why not? phone FC doesnt stop logcat
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<chris41g>
if you dont have adb its another problem
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<Awys>
i cant activite the adb from settings
<Awys>
unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped.
<dhiru1602>
Awys: Logcat
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<slick_rick>
Awys: it takes some time but you can get it enabled
<Awys>
will try
<slick_rick>
in the split second the FC is gone, press menu, settings, gotta be quick lol
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<chris41g>
or boot to recovery, and use sqlite3 to enable it
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<Entropy512>
reference boards don't have to deal with wireless certifications or carrier testing
<Entropy512>
so how is it that they haven't even finished ICS two months AFTER I9300 JB went live?
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<IbrahimA>
one of the things i dont get about samsung is that almost certainly their internal developers are using git so why do they dump tarballs/tarballs as git repos to the public?
<IbrahimA>
it strictly speaking should be more work to do that than just push the internal git repo to a public facing remote