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n0credit>
perka has some issues
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Jiangyi>
lol Entropy ftw^^
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Entropy512>
I'll unban him tomorrow
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Entropy512>
hopefully his connection will be fixed then
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Entropy512>
but the channel is nothing but Perka disconnect spam all day
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n0credit>
not too much to chat about
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Entropy512>
I know I saw paulk earlier... missed him
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Entropy512>
same with when supercurio was awake
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n0credit>
are you in the states_
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Entropy512>
n0credit: yeah, New York
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n0credit>
holly f$ck
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n0credit>
sandy was no joke
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Entropy512>
I'm inland - NY State, not NYC
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Entropy512>
but I know people in NYC and NJ
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Entropy512>
my parents were without power for over a week
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Jiangyi>
Toronto was hit, but not really badly.
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Jiangyi>
Some power outages here and there
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Entropy512>
There were some power outages due to wind, but not much around here in Binghamton
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Jiangyi>
Few trees fell
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Entropy512>
nothing like last year
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Entropy512>
where Irene soaked the ground
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Entropy512>
and Lee made the Susquehanna rise 4 feet above the previous record
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Jiangyi>
Yeah, the advantage of Toronto is that we don't get hit badly by anything really lol
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n0credit>
that's crazy, I hope I never see a hurricane in my life
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n0credit>
was there any change to iptables in the kernel for the gt-i9300 in the last week or so?
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Entropy512>
not that I know of
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koud>
what kind of strange turnaround is this?? "I can't comment on the future of Nexus 4 in AOSP, sorry."
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koud>
"Nexus 10 is now the best choice for AOSP work on 4.2. Everything
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koud>
except the GPU code is Open Source, and the only proprietary binaries
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koud>
various peripheral chips. No flagship device so far has been so open,
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koud>
and no flagship device so far has had that level of AOSP support at
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koud>
besides the GPU libraries are firmware files that get loaded into the
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stickyboy>
Strange indeed.
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koud>
what kind of strange world are we living in now when suddenly the exynos device is the best aosp device
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koud>
I really hope they clarify the nexus 4 situation before I decide to buy one :/
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koud>
Espenfjo: any news from exynos team about exynos4 files?
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Espenfjo>
koud: :(
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Espenfjo>
koud: I dont think there will be any
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koud>
Espenfjo: sad :((
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koud>
and I assume the exynos5 stuff is not usefull?
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koud>
I was thinking of buying nexus 4
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koud>
but now I am not sure anymore
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koud>
nexus device without aosp support seems sucky
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Espenfjo>
Nexus10 or winmo :P
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koud>
I would rather buy galaxy nexus
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koud>
could probably find a cheap one now :P
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Espenfjo>
Here it is still around 4000NOK
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nebkat>
guize everyone is overreacting
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nebkat>
surely it will get aosp support??
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Espenfjo>
nebkat: NO!
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nebkat>
there is no way for a nexus device not to get aosp
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koud>
nebkat: it will
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nebkat>
at least not without a proper reason
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koud>
if they have not released now
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Espenfjo>
it will be like toro
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koud>
I am afraid it will be crippeled
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nebkat>
koud: how/why?
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koud>
like nexus 7 3g
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koud>
they did not manage to get licience for the 3g files
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Espenfjo>
and like the toro
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Kaik541>
nebkat: I'm sure it will, soon
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Kaik541>
just not ready in time for release (which is unfortunate)
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Kaik541>
koud: "yet"
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Kaik541>
they've never had a problem with getting them before
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koud>
Kaik541: well I usually buy devices on the capabilities they have not what they "might" get :P
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koud>
Kaik541: eh? LTE? :P
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koud>
they hade huge problems
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Kaik541>
you said 3G
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Kaik541>
LTE is a bullshit proprietary minefield
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koud>
and I thought that was the reason they just made one international model this time
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koud>
so they would not have this issue
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koud>
but since they do not have anything now it seems like a waste
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koud>
their talks might have broken down
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Kaik541>
might have, but doubt it
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nebkat>
I think we can all agree 4.2/nexus release has been huge fail lol
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nebkat>
first sandy, then google play derps, now no aosp support
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peterperfect>
google play derps were expected no?
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peterperfect>
huge demand
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peterperfect>
the thing is...big companys want to release stuff ASAP
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peterperfect>
theres is never enough stock
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koud>
but I dont know
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koud>
atleast you shoudl be able to write shopping software that works :P
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peterperfect>
yeah there are some bugs
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peterperfect>
but fuck it
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peterperfect>
the real concern is about aosp
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peterperfect>
who cares about bugs on playstore
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koud>
one would assume they should mark the stock as a critical section :P
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koud>
so only one at a time can modify it and recive to their cart :P
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peterperfect>
koud i got it, but this is minor, you know..they will fix stuff, devices gonna be sold anyway
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peterperfect>
the N4 not out on AOSP is the biggest concern
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koud>
I dont care about the other part
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koud>
especially since we dont even have play store here
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peterperfect>
here is what i think
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peterperfect>
Google would not do it (launch unsupported device) without saying so
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peterperfect>
cause developers would RAGE
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peterperfect>
for real
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peterperfect>
and AOSP relys on the community support
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peterperfect>
if there were no plans to get N4 to AOSP, they would have prior announced this
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koud>
but now they did, and even said that nexus 10 is the recommended device
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koud>
sounds kinda like they are uppset and gave up
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peterperfect>
this is google decision..when it goes to a oem to make a device
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peterperfect>
theres the licensing
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peterperfect>
i doubt google would approve a nexus device out of AOSP
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peterperfect>
at least this would be the first time, no?
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peterperfect>
hell..im confused about it
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peterperfect>
lets wait
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koud>
hope they clearify it soon
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koud>
who knows, maybe they are close to improve it (ie maybe get graphics blob or something released with source?) so they want to wait for that
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koud>
but I kinda dont want to belive something like that because I know I will be dissapointed :P
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Kaik541>
there's no way qualcomm would open up the adreno libs
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