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<ArmbianTwitter> @Kelly_Clowers (Kelly Clowers): RT @Superna9999: Just pushed @armbian support for @odroidH Odroid-C4 ! https://t.co/ajqYZOekF5 (19s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): @armbian @Superna9999 @OdroidH Sweet! (14s ago)
<sbbg> Hi, I haven't found "devfreq" in Gentoo, we have something like cpupower, though. Are they functional equivalent?
<sbbg> I would like to disable DVFS totally to see if that make KDE plasma work for me.
<sbbg> ok, I just tried that. Fixing cpu to userspace governer and 1.08G on my PineH64 does provide me working KDE plasma. Thank you. Especially to Werner, who left the post on the forum.
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<Werner> Good morning
<nekomancer[m]> Good morning
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<ArmbianTwitter> @0xF2 (F2): RT @_christianb_: After many years with a Raspberry pi3, I switched to an Odroid-XU4. Installing now armbian which is pretty cool and fast.… (9s ago)
<sbbg> Good morning.
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<IgorPec> good morning
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @kobol_io: #Helios64 Production Update 1 ! https://t.co/TLzpvLwXSt https://t.co/DlJZFVlGMo (15s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @PatrickTitiano (Patrick Titiano): RT @Superna9999: Just pushed @armbian support for @odroidH Odroid-C4 ! https://t.co/ajqYZOekF5 (30s ago)
<chewitt> morning all .. I am experimenting in with mainline u-boot and 5.7-rc3 on an Odroid XU4
<chewitt> I got this far https://pastebin.com/RgyXWD6B
<chewitt> but then it does some kind of reset, and reboots again
<chewitt> this is with LE not Armbian, but I suspect there are more XU4 people here :)
<chewitt> any known gotchas?
<IgorPec> xu4 mainline is unstable for us too. first so - so operational kernel is this https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/tree/odroid-5.4.y others were crashing so far
<IgorPec> latest i personally tested was 5.6.y but 5.7.y probably didn't get any significant fixes in this area
<chewitt> annoying.. but happy it's probably not my shoddy hacking at fault :)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @AlessandroDevs @miniNodes As terminal tittle suggests its an Odroid 4 ... running #armbian (4s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @AlessandroDevs (Alessandro): @armbian @miniNodes You are right, I missed that. Awesome! (4s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @WiensEugen (Eugen Wiens): RT @Superna9999: Just pushed @armbian support for @odroidH Odroid-C4 ! https://t.co/ajqYZOekF5 (15s ago)
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<chewitt> IgorPec: turns out it helps when you boot the XU4 with the XU4 PSU not the C4 PSU
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<chewitt> too many boards and bits lying around :)
<ArmbianTwitter> @Com_Greed (Commander Greed): @kobol_io @armbian Very nice. I think if I disable deduplication I could even use ZFS on 4GB RAM. (23s ago)
<IgorPec> chewitt: but c4 is 12V ... and you didn't burn the board?
<chewitt> apparently not
<chewitt> must be my lucky day
<IgorPec> yeah, true. i actually rosted one xu4 that way :)
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<IgorPec> newertheless, k5.4 and xu4 ... it could run stable for hours, then crash on some small load
<chewitt> time to get the dymo labeller uot
<chewitt> I'll see how I go
<IgorPec> i use to tape wires with red and yellow tape
<chewitt> Kodi isn't the most demanding workload and mainline u-boot doesn't overclock the board
<chewitt> I noticed most of the gaming distro's do that
<chewitt> can you point me to the script that Armbian uses for copying images to emmc?
<IgorPec> its kind of messy. we had an idea to start from scratch, but ...
<chewitt> also, I have a ton of this in dmesg .. any ideas on how to silence?
<chewitt> [ 34.210199] mmc_host mmc0: Bus speed (slot 0) = 50000000Hz (slot req 400000Hz, actual 396825HZ div = 63)
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<IgorPec> emmc or sd?
<chewitt> sd
<chewitt> booting from sd
<IgorPec> there are some hacks to adjust speed but can't find patches
<Tenkawa> i should get my N2 today yay!!
<IgorPec> great! My C4 will get to my after the 1st May holidays :(
<IgorPec> chewit: check here a bit if you see anything related https://github.com/mihailescu2m/linux/commits/odroidxu4-5.4.y
<Tenkawa> bummer
<Tenkawa> at least you got one... they are flying out of stock
<Tenkawa> my friend has one coming too
<IgorPec> yeah, i could not get 2 pcs, just one
<Tenkawa> I think I'm going to have a lot of fun on the N2
<chewitt> IgorPec: C4 support is already on the amlogic mailing list, and I have u-boot support in my u-boot repo if you need it
<chewitt> both tested and working
<chewitt> mainline u-boot avoids the funky colours seen with bsp u-boot
<IgorPec> :)
<chewitt> ahh, explains what he was up to yesterday
<chewitt> he's moonlighting.. should be working on HEVC support !
<IgorPec> haha
<IgorPec> he needs to get some rest ;)
<Tenkawa> rest...
<Tenkawa> what is that??
<IgorPec> i also don't know what that is
<Tenkawa> "Representational state transfer" ?
<Tenkawa> heehee?
<IgorPec> lanefu:
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<IgorPec> lanefu: some troubles with Jenkins? It seems online, but doing nothing
<IgorPec> hi
<Tenkawa> IgorPec: I'm getting reports here that the whole inet is slow
<IgorPec> where?
<Tenkawa> I dont know who you guys use for your integration services but my wife does application coding and its dragging through multiple upsteans
<Tenkawa> er upstream dbs
<Tenkawa> her db streams are dragging
<Tenkawa> let me check my git builds
<Tenkawa> mine would be wherever github are
<Tenkawa> I have no idea where hers are
<Myy-hamster> Btw, I tried cross-compiling kernels with Github "Actions" system. It works but it takes at least 30 minutes for a single kernel.
<Tenkawa> thats actually not bad
<Tenkawa> ok she just said it got better
<IgorPec> my time is 1-2m
<Myy-hamster> Given that you can only allocate 6 hours, I don't know if you can build an entire Armbian image.
<IgorPec> 6h could be enough for all kernels
<Myy-hamster> By the way, I also tried the whole docker registry thing and it's horrendous, given that you need to authenticate towards Github before getting any *public* Docker image you've published.
<Myy-hamster> Yeah, but don't you need to do a few other things, like initializing the Debian system and such ?
<IgorPec> that's cached
<Myy-hamster> Ah
<IgorPec> on remote host, on torrents
<Myy-hamster> That could do it then. I should give it a shot. But in the end, you'll only get a big "Artefact" ZIP file.
<Myy-hamster> Unless the "Actions" include the whole "push to remote servers".
<IgorPec> yeah , we need to think this over
<IgorPec> i never tried those actions
<IgorPec> we do have two fast dedicated servers hooked to 100MB line
<Myy-hamster> I tried on a few projects... It's basically like Gitlab and AWS CI
<Myy-hamster> At first, I thought it would be programmable like some Decision Workflow softwares
<Myy-hamster> With a nice schema and all. But no. It's a YML file, you write the procedure in it and wait for Github to tell you that it failed because you miss "that little thing".
<IgorPec> so far Lane is researching how to impose own Jenkins to make thing work
<IgorPec> i feel to locked down (could be wrong about) by using Github CI
<Myy-hamster> Yeah, Jenkins might be a better choice. Never know what Microsoft will be doing with Github. And Gitlab also had its share for "bizarre reactions from management".
<IgorPec> exactly
<IgorPec> but neither me neither Lane are Jenkins masters
<IgorPec> yet
<Myy-hamster> Never tried Jenkins. Tried Gitlab and Github for the moment. But this should not be too hard, no ? I mean, Armbian build system is pretty much automated by now.
<Myy-hamster> Also, I should integrate JIRA to my chat system.
<IgorPec> yeah, automated, but there are some cracks and bugs in those scripts :)
<IgorPec> cron jobs, bash scripts, templates, configs, ... is a mess, but somehow works
<IgorPec> moving to Jenkins is also an opportunity to clean those things up a bit
<Myy-hamster> Yup. For the whole CI auto-build on change, I guess you'll need to setup a "Webhook" and, then, a script that check for the latest tag on linus repo and send an 'event' to the Webhook endpoint.
<IgorPec> yeah, we should be include Lanefu in this. he was already doing something
<IgorPec> the idea is to make a proper CI, not running nightly builds on overything
<IgorPec> but just on changed stuff
<Myy-hamster> Indeed.
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<IgorPec> currently we don't know how to achieve that, unless Lane made some progress
<Myy-hamster> And then have the auto-tester grab the latest builds and test them ?
<IgorPec> in theory i know, but doing it with Jenkinsfu power is another story
<IgorPec> autotest on hardware can also be triggered after, yes
<IgorPec> its prepared that way, but currently its not there yet. to many bugs, improving it every day
<Myy-hamster> Yeah, auto-testing on real hardware is something else.
<IgorPec> yeah, that just another step
<Myy-hamster> lanefu: So, did you practice your kung-fu with the butler ?
<IgorPec> lanefu: is sleeping i guess
<Myy-hamster> Hmm, the whole remote bot thing is fun but I can't see the users list
<IgorPec> well, not really important info, since lots of people "are here" but not really here
<Myy-hamster> Yeah, only the chatters matter 😺
<Myy-hamster> However, matterbridge can easily different chatting system together. This can be used to open chatroom on different servers (Discord, Slack, ...) and have everything repeated back on IRC. And, it's not dependent on Mattermost, which I only discovered at the last minute. It's a single binary.
<IgorPec> i use only irc, and some propriatery stuff
<IgorPec> like skype
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<Myy-hamster> Ah, yeah. Me too. I used Discord a few times, but it's being used more and more everywhere. I also tried Matrix/Synapse (ugh) and Mattermost here.
<Myy-hamster> I still have to test Rocket.chat coupled with Jitsi Meet.
<Tenkawa> my wife's gaming group uses Discord
<Tenkawa> we use to use Teamspeak
<Tenkawa> way back in the day
<Myy-hamster> Ah, yeah
<Myy-hamster> They had a client for Linux
<Myy-hamster> Which was... flaky...
<Tenkawa> indeed
<Myy-hamster> Then there were mumble. But Discord wooped the competition by providing a nice UI, coupled with simple mechanics to just invite everyone and start chatting.
<Myy-hamster> With Audio/Video support.
<Myy-hamster> Funnily, Steam chat system never really took off.
<Tenkawa> you familiar with Pathfinder?
<Myy-hamster> No. Sounds like some AI tools more than anything :3
<Myy-hamster> Ah, it's a RPG
<Tenkawa> no its a fork of D&D
<Tenkawa> they play a lot of those games over roll20 and discord right now across the world
<Myy-hamster> I see. Tabletop RPG.
<Myy-hamster> Ah, nice !
<[TheBug]> Rocket.chat is free, but its also a pile of dung, most of the apps, especially for Android are complete and utter dumpster fire IMO
<[TheBug]> I know as I am forced to use it..
<Myy-hamster> Interesting info.
<[TheBug]> I mean its 'useful' if you have no other options
<[TheBug]> but its buggy
<[TheBug]> and the phone apps are not awesome
<[TheBug]> with iphone being considered the best out of phone apps and still not being great
<Myy-hamster> So far, my best experience for hosted chat is still "Matrix/Synapse" though... it's not that great.
<Myy-hamster> I'm still surprised that Mattermost lack Audio/Video support
<[TheBug]> honestly I have used hipchat, skype, slack, rocket.chat and of those hipchat was the best, however, they kinda went away... so :(
<Myy-hamster> Hmm... I guess that I'll go with Synapse, now that I've a script to prepare this without turning insane
<Myy-hamster> The main problem with Synapse is that they forgot a little thing called, a freaking configuration UI.
<Myy-hamster> And the whole "federation" thing that is kind of broken.
<Myy-hamster> Performance-wise.
<[TheBug]> Myy-hamster I mean your gonna deal with issues with anything 'free' that hasn't been polished
<[TheBug]> so don't get me wrong, Rocket.chat works... its just the app experience is poor
<Myy-hamster> Yeah, but at the same time, I'm always like "How do they use their things... ? Don't they reinstall it here and there ?"
<Myy-hamster> I'll give a try, and see how it fares.
<Myy-hamster> But the fact that you have to prepare "Jitsi Meet" to get A/V support ... Ugh...
<Myy-hamster> But Jitsi Meet is autonomous, so I guess there's that.
<[TheBug]> yeah there isn't audio/video direct integrated
<[TheBug]> we don't use it in the implimentation I use
<[TheBug]> we just use the text chat
<Myy-hamster> With Matrix/Synapse, they had A/V integrated within Riot. Just had to prepare TURN/STUN server and that's it.
<Myy-hamster> Yeah, that's the main use of chat systems :3
<Myy-hamster> But everytime someone ask me "What do recommend beside Skype for Audio/Video chat", I'm like ".... ... Discord ? I guess ?"
<[TheBug]> I am not a huge fan of Discord, but thats just a personal thing not a function thing..
<[TheBug]> but yeah
<[TheBug]> since they killed off hipchat
<[TheBug]> I am also reserved in making a suggestion
<Myy-hamster> I see. I only saw hipchat referenced in Gitlab configuration, but never used it.
<Myy-hamster> That's also how I discovered "mattermost" too.
<lanefu> hi
<Myy-hamster> meow
<lanefu> oopps yeah i think i broke a plugin
<lanefu> All providers failed: [org.jenkinsci.plugins.github.internal.GHPluginConfigException: GitHubPluginRepoProvider can't find appropriate client for github repo . Probably you didn't configure 'GitHub Plugin' global 'GitHub Server Settings' or there is no tokenswith ADMIN access to this repository.]
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<Myy-hamster> Well, the error message is helping you. That's rare !
<lanefu> lemme scroll up and see what you all were talking about :P
<Myy-hamster> Hamsters. For the most part.
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<lanefu> IgorPec: okay i fixed it.. i messed it up messing with some credentials managment stuff the other day
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<IgorPec> hey, yeah ... oh [thebug] hi
<IgorPec> its getting handy that we have CI at PR
<lanefu> :P. yeah try triggering a build now
<IgorPec> yep, works
<lanefu> as far watching linus tree for changes... i think that part won't be vary challenging.... i'm just sitll trying to wrap my head around the most efficient way to run / distribute the actual builds
<lanefu> like a change in the linus tree pretty much means build everything, right?
<[TheBug]> IgorPec: hey :)
<ArmbianTwitter> @Dakaeras (Amador Lujan): RT @S_Config: After 4 years of sitting in a drawer.. My #Pine64 is brought out from the darkness with the help of Armbian. given purpose wi… (8s ago)
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<IgorPec> lanefu: watching tags?
<IgorPec> build things related to that tag ... "linux-4.14.y" build all kernels with this tag
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<IgorPec> ok, we have one with that tag i think
<IgorPec> changes on 5.4.y many more
<lanefu> oh gotcha
<lanefu> guess we need some more utility scripts to generate tables etc for finding matching things like that
<lanefu> i guess could make something similar to look up branch tags or something
<IgorPec> yeah
<lanefu> and i guess that tag is by family
<IgorPec> after you source subfamily - > family
<IgorPec> in board config you have defined subfamily like meson-gxl
<IgorPec> which gives you meson64 and arm64 and config and all that stuff
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<lanefu> hmmm hmm trying to think of the the cleanest way to do this...... set $BRANCH=current then interrate sourcing each family file...
<lanefu> it would also need to consider if it's using mainline kernel source, or someone else's source too? ex: megous's branach for sunxi
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<IgorPec> you actually only need to find out one board that is using that kernel and build kernel for it
<IgorPec> sorry, all boards
<IgorPec> since on upstream tag can affect more families
<lanefu> yeah the code already finds a board for a given family
<lanefu> but i'm talking about how to generate a list of families that's associted with a given branch/tag
<IgorPec> yeah
<IgorPec> with some grepfu ? :)
<IgorPec> grep -R BRANCH config/* | grep 5.4.y
<lanefu> ha so that provides edge cases... cuz it also mathes on arm64.conf and armhf.conf
<IgorPec> grep -R BRANCH config/* | grep linux-5.6.y | grep families
<IgorPec> and some cut / awk and you got family name
<nekomancer[m]> how to make .dtbo file work from sysytem boot?
<nekomancer[m]> Now it works after I do `mkdir /sys/kernel/config/device-tree/overlays/i2c3a` and copy my .dtbo into `/sys/kernel/config/device-tree/overlays/i2c3a/dtbo`
<lanefu> for match in $(grep -R BRANCH config/* | grep linux-5.6.y | grep families|awk '{print $1}'|tr -d ':');do basename $match|awk -F[_\.] {'print $1}';done
<lanefu> lol
<lanefu> alright i addde the function to jenkins-ci.sh so at least we made a bit of progress. thanks man
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<lanefu> IgorPec: is there any sort of secret --dry-run flag with complile.h to kind of test but not do real building?
<lanefu> *compile.sh
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<IgorPec> no
<IgorPec> dry-run not implemented
<lanefu> cool... i didn't think so.. but i had to ask :P
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<Miouyouyou> Meow
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