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<nekomancer[m]>
is petitboot areplacement for u-boot?
<archetech>
no
<archetech>
U-boot is required to boot from SD or eMMC, and SPI has U-boot already. If N2 system requires to boot once Petitboot, no need to care about U-boot.
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<nekomancer[m]>
2 days ago my N2 stops to boot after nightly update or kernel and base... system was on sdcard, during boot on hdmi nothing at all. then I pull a switch and found petitboot :)
<archetech>
lol
<archetech>
its a neat feature
<nekomancer[m]>
this night will try to build new current image and kernel and try to transplant on other pc kernel deb to old sdcard (it chroot under qemu)
<archetech>
makes usb boot easy
<archetech>
no more cards
<nekomancer[m]>
not so many SBC contains something like this. seems it's expensive and not popular, or other reasons?
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<lanefu>
yeah petitboot is interesting... it uses kexec
<nekomancer[m]>
I have no serial connector for N2, then can't check myself...
<nekomancer[m]>
are petitboot work via serial console too?
<nekomancer[m]>
If my N2 not visible in network and shows nothing on HDMI display — does it mean it have broken kernel image, or, maybe, it boots, just without network and display?
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: you can shove female dupont connectors on the console port
<lanefu>
they fit
<nekomancer[m]>
I have no sucj connectors around
<lanefu>
womp womp
<lanefu>
does the ethernet jack show a link light?
<lanefu>
you could mount sdcard on other machine and look for likes
<lanefu>
s/likes/logs
<ArmbianHelper>
lanefu meant to say: you could mount sdcard on other machine and look for logs
<lanefu>
but honestly probably just a non-workinig image
* nekomancer[m]
miss log looking step... scaring of systemd and ramlogs
<nekomancer[m]>
Order cable from ameridroid means very long waiting and 35$ shipping
<nekomancer[m]>
hm? my not fix. they walk around pins
<nekomancer[m]>
pins smaller than socket
<lanefu>
N2 or N2+?
<nekomancer[m]>
sockets stanarts for "as on raspberry"
<nekomancer[m]>
n2
<lanefu>
yeah i literally got a console from my n2 with those wires last week
<nekomancer[m]>
o_o
* nekomancer[m]
shoud try again with next cable sample. maybe I crack my socket...
<lanefu>
oh bummer
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@SinghJanpreet (Janpreet Singh): Successfully booted armbian from sata hdd. Took plenty of formatting and re-partitioning the disk but I’m glad I’m past using sd card. #RockPro64 #pine64 (20s ago)
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<Werner>
Good morning
<IgorPec>
good morning
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<Miouyouyou>
Good morning
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<Miouyouyou>
I'll test the Tinkerboard branch of the next Armbian today, and try to add the few tested patches posted on the forum (GPU 500Mhz OPP)
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<IgorPec>
meow ok
<Werner>
Can text based "ads" like "When asking for help or reporting an issue make sure to provide logs with: armbianmonitor -u" be formatted further?
<IgorPec>
it can be, why?
<Werner>
I like to point out important parts with stuff like bold or similar. Like I did with various messages that triggers ArmbianHelper
<Werner>
For the mentioned message above I would do some console like font to the command
<IgorPec>
aha. not sure if needed
<IgorPec>
i tried and it looks odd
<IgorPec>
perhaps some colored background would do a better job
<Werner>
Probably. Or just make it bold. I usually do italic in forums for "inline commands" to say.
<Werner>
Would be nice to have somthing like `` in markdown in forums to point out commands and code.
<IgorPec>
i agree that currently its not much visible, but making it stand out too much is also bad
<Werner>
Guess we have to try and then decide what looks best
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<Werner>
"Checks the documentation before opening a new topic!" -> "Checkout our documentation before opening a new topic!" and maybe documentation bold or underline
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@orangepixunlong (OrangePi): Updated some RK3399 boards due to a bug https://t.co/azxitW24DZ (29s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@orangepixunlong (OrangePi): Updated some RK3399 boards due to a bug https://t.co/XEBQHQhaGp (21s ago)
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<PPA>
Finally out of the hospital
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<Werner>
\o/
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<lanefu>
mornin
<lanefu>
PPA: oh man... welcome back.. hope you're doing well
<Tenkawa>
greetings
<PPA>
thanks
<PPA>
Sudden appendicitis, which ws the followed by a loop in my guts twisting around itself due to the inflammation
<Tenkawa>
ouochie
<PPA>
Two surgeries and 10 days in hospital later, I'm finally back home; going to take a lot of rest before I can pick up where I left off though
<lanefu>
sounds awful
<Tenkawa>
definitely get your rest… take it from someone who has been through the wringer a few times
<Tenkawa>
right now I'm in no rush to become part of crowds
<Tenkawa>
heh
<Tenkawa>
lanefu: hey.. I was wanting to ask you guys… is there much active development following going on for the upper end of the Banana Pi boards?
<Tenkawa>
from you guys's standpoint
<buZz>
Tenkawa: you'd better ask #linux-sunxi
<buZz>
they do the actual dev
<Tenkawa>
ok will do.. didnt know if they would bother past the bare metak
<Tenkawa>
er metal
<buZz>
ehw
<buZz>
i'm not sure what you're wanting to ask then
<buZz>
armbian (for allwinner) is just linux-sunxi's kernel with debian's rootfs
<buZz>
and some small scripts
<Tenkawa>
I'm looking more debian centric questions
<buZz>
ah well, debian's ARM support is pretty much top of the class
<Werner>
Megi's sources to be specific about the kernel ;)
<buZz>
not much need for those kernels anymore
<buZz>
with most stuff going mainline
<Tenkawa>
ok so the kern sources are restricted.. ok thats good to know
<Tenkawa>
oh
<buZz>
mainline kernel isnt restricted , no
<Werner>
PPA hopefully you will recover fast.
<Tenkawa>
thats good…
<Tenkawa>
I didnt see your mainline comment yet
<buZz>
ok :)
<Tenkawa>
buZz: I have been a kernel developer since 1996
<buZz>
sweet :)
<buZz>
i've only dabbled
<buZz>
but, gtg
<buZz>
hf :)
<lanefu>
Tenkawa: bananapi stuff doesn't get much attention
<lanefu>
they were considered to be the SBC vendor most notorious for just rushing boards together and chucking them over the wall
<Tenkawa>
kinda figured
<Tenkawa>
at least my suspicions were not way offbased
<lanefu>
lol gutfeels are usually pretty accurate
<Tenkawa>
hehehe indeed
<Tenkawa>
especially when it comes to tech
<lanefu>
yeah its weird.. one day you've finally beat your head against the wall so many times, that instinct finaly kicks in
<Tenkawa>
dont forget the #1 question of i.t. "Always get good project requirements or you will be reworking it over and over and .. .. "
<IgorPec>
buzz: armbian kernel = +197 patches on top of meguous patched mainline
<IgorPec>
for entire sunxi family, a few also for a10/20
<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): RT @orangepixunlong: Orange Pi 4 with Armbain 20.08.0 Mali Midgard Kenrel driver realese r28 Mali Midgard Userspace driver realese r14 Linu… (5s ago)
<lanefu>
i'm kind LOLing at that Opi4 post about Mali Midgard demoing a 2D Sega Genesis emulation
<ArmbianTwitter>
@karmbian (Karmbian Linux for Pentesters): We are working on getting Karmbian to run stably on Raspberry Pi in the next couple of weeks. Contributors or anyone looking to open up an issue should find us on Github! https://t.co/ojUmczC60X #Linux #Karmbian #Armbian #Hacker #Hacking #HackingTools #RaspberryPi #Github (3s ago)
<nekomancer[m]>
2 days ago my N2 not returns after reboot after nightly update. yesterday I start to build latest images myself, and today it finished.
<nekomancer[m]>
then I mount sdcard on laptop, and install just builded base image and kernel under chroot.
<nekomancer[m]>
system booted.
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: right.. so there is an issue with upgrading v20.05 armbian to nightly on the n2.. some incompatiblity with u-boot
<lanefu>
sorry i didnt relize thats what happened lsat night
<nekomancer[m]>
then I flash just builded system image ro other sdcard — ans as previously system it not boots without any text on hdmi
<lanefu>
so yeah fresh images work. but specifically upgradign doesnt
<nekomancer[m]>
I build myself a fresh image from master, and now see this image can't boot.
<nekomancer[m]>
I just flash new image to new sdcard, no upgrade process
<Tenkawa>
lanefu: oh… so its you I should be grumbling at for bombing uboot on the n2? lol
<Tenkawa>
j/k
<nekomancer[m]>
checkin I was build in master was c27379e93fee03453d3275a4f68fea2277d375c9
<IgorPec>
upgrading doesn't work? from which version to which?
<nekomancer[m]>
just now I see fresh image not work.
<IgorPec>
it has to work from 20.05.x to 20.08 ... the rest its hard to test
<IgorPec>
freshly build doesn't work??
<nekomancer[m]>
but it is self-made. then I have to download official build
<IgorPec>
self made was operational few days ago ... i tested on N2 and n2+ 20 times at least
<IgorPec>
let me build one ...
<Tenkawa>
I havent tested in close to a week so I dont know
<[TheBug]>
lanefu: good example of what I was saying about LicheePi, http://bbs.ilichee.cc/ which is supposed to be their main site forum info etc is now gone already ;/
<[TheBug]>
lanefu: so basically all the tutorials that existed and info for it is gone unless you can find it in web archive
<[TheBug]>
was checking through the links on my site and found a bunch of them now fail that link tehre
<IgorPec>
who is actually behind this project?
<[TheBug]>
His first name is Caesar
<[TheBug]>
I believe
<[TheBug]>
I may still have a skype contact
<[TheBug]>
but thats about it
<IgorPec>
ahaa
<[TheBug]>
Caize Wu
<[TheBug]>
is his names
<[TheBug]>
name*
<IgorPec>
not familiar
<[TheBug]>
I sent a ping to him on Skype but it shows he hasn't been on there for a while
<[TheBug]>
so no idea if I will hear back
<IgorPec>
that's life
<[TheBug]>
but I actually asked him to give me the data if he would for bbs.lichee.cc and I would host it
<nekomancer[m]>
my build was `./compile.sh docker BOARD=odroidn2 BRANCH=current RELEASE=focal BUILD_MINIMAL=no BUILD_DESKTOP=no KERNEL_ONLY=no KERNEL_CONFIGURE=no COMPRESS_OUTPUTIMAGE=sha,gpg,img,gz BTRFS_COMPRESSION=zstd ROOTFS_TYPE=btrfs`
<[TheBug]>
see if he ever replies
<IgorPec>
neko: for btrfs i don't know
<IgorPec>
not tested
<[TheBug]>
IgorPec: yeah and hoping he isn't someone affected by pandemic ;/
<IgorPec>
... or just any other trouble. yeah.
<ArmbianHelper>
. or just any other trouble. yeah. [en~>eng]
<IgorPec>
thank you armbian helper :)
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<Miouyouyou>
The tinkerboard image is booting fine. I still have to test Wifi/Bluetooth and Panfrost drivers, though.
<Miouyouyou>
I guess I should also try the latest U-boot, but unless there's a way to get, at least, a Grub-like kernel selection menu on the new U-boot, I don't see the point of upgrading the Bootloader on this board.
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<nekomancer[m]>
how to tell to compile.sh not to rebuild from .c sources and drivers when I change target filesystem or compression of image?
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<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: CLEAN_LEVEL=""
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<DigitalMan1983_>
Hi all...wondering if someone could clear something up for me....I'm using the Armbian Build script to create an image for my Olinuxino A64. It does not appear to be on the list of available boards, however I can see that the device trees are present. I'm wondering if it's possible to select the proper configuration
<DigitalMan1983_>
I do see entries for the Pine64 and Teres, which are both very similar
<DigitalMan1983_>
I've tried the Teres configuration and had problems identifying MMC vs. eMMC
<DigitalMan1983_>
I'm thinking of giving the Pine64so configuration a shot, but it would be preferable to specify the Olinuxino
<lanefu>
DigitalMan1983_: yeah try that. then you can just modify the boot.cmd to poit to the right device tree
<lanefu>
not sure if you'll need to adjust /boot/armbianEnv.txt or not.. so just be aware it exists
* Tenkawa
still has 2 olinuxino 's sitting around somewhere
<Tenkawa>
never got an a64 though
<DigitalMan1983_>
thanks Igor!
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<DigitalMan1983_>
another question if I may...my Olinuxino has 2GB of RAM and no wifi/bluetooth. The pine64so configuration matches this, while lime a64 shows 1GB with wifi and bluetooth. wondering if I would be better off with one or the other
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<IgorPec>
it depends what you are going to do
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<Miouyouyou>
And so, the tip of the day is : Don't install meson with your package manager. Install it with pip (pip3 on Debian). That way, you'll always get the latest version, even on Debian buster.
<IgorPec>
meson what?
<Miouyouyou>
pip3 install meson
<Miouyouyou>
Wifi works flawlessly on Tinkerboard by the way
<IgorPec>
AP?
<IgorPec>
that's the issue
<Miouyouyou>
Client.
<Miouyouyou>
Ah yeah
<IgorPec>
AP is broken for a while
<Miouyouyou>
I'll put it as an AP when finished
<Miouyouyou>
I'm compiling Panfrost, on a tinkerboard without any cooling system, in a room at 33°C
<Miouyouyou>
If the Tinkerboard doesn't melt, I'll check
* Tenkawa
hasnt picked up his tinkerboard in ages
<Miouyouyou>
It's ok. Now that almost every works out of the box, they'll release another one with 4.4 support or something like that.
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<IgorPec>
my tinker is in the test rig, and another two are somewhere
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