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<lanefu>
sorry dog nose on laptop
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<IgorPec>
good morning
<on2>
good morning everyone
<Werner>
Good morning
<Miouyouyou>
Good Morning
<Werner>
lanefu, already had a chance to play with actions on the docs?
<lanefu>
Werner: not yet. im easily distracted
<Werner>
Welp, then put the face mask down :P
<lanefu>
lol
<Werner>
Prevent coffee accidents
<lanefu>
alright going to bed. have fun with your turbo H3s
<Werner>
Sleep well
<Werner>
Working nicely btw.
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<lanefu>
howdy
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<Tenkawa>
greetings
<Tenkawa>
whats new?
<buZz>
chromebooks are hard to get booting
<buZz>
fyi :)
<Tenkawa>
yep
<buZz>
someone gifted me a exynos5 model
<buZz>
tried for >24hr to get devuan to boot from SD , failure thusfar :P
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<Tenkawa>
I had one of those years ago (dont know what I ever did with it)
<buZz>
:)
<buZz>
well its pretty nice hw
<buZz>
would be a ton nicer with a decent distro on it
<Tenkawa>
indeed
<buZz>
but all i could find that still worked was some archlinux image
<buZz>
and i'm not really that good with arch
<buZz>
stuff like pacman -S fluxbox, doesnt even pull in xorg packages O_o
<Tenkawa>
I had debian on mine back then before systemd heehee
* Tenkawa
likes his odroid-n2 server now though :)
<lanefu>
so can i just put the n2+ device tree on my N2 and try to melt it?
<Tenkawa>
ouch…
<Tenkawa>
nooooo!!!!
<Tenkawa>
lol
<[TheBug]>
Did someone say they were going to make pancakes with a N2 using the NS+ device tree? Better record that, would be epic!
<[TheBug]>
s/NS+/N2+
<ArmbianHelper>
[TheBug] meant to say: Did someone say they were going to make pancakes with a N2 using the N2++ device tree? Better record that, would be epic!
<martinayotte_>
IgorPec: I will do a second garden tour for u-boot switch
<lanefu>
:P
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<lanefu>
IgorPec: re: customize-image script... currently takes 4 arguments regarding board type... what do you think about adding a 5th argument that we can forward from ./compile.sh like CUSTOMIZE_OPTIONS="SetupMyWifi"
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<Werner>
Sorry, you cannot add any more reactions today. lol
<lanefu>
man it's important to show support
* lanefu
+1
<BenZucker[m]>
Indeed
<lanefu>
alright cross your fingers.. my opi zero teasetd me by working and joining wifi on the first try
<lanefu>
then stopped
<lanefu>
even after reflashing lol
<lanefu>
trying new sdcard
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<lanefu>
aha okay its back
<lanefu>
i'll have to be gentled
<viko>
Hi! Someone have problems with armbian in orangepi3?
<viko>
I installed all versions and no one boot
<viko>
and the problem isn't the sd card
<viko>
because I installed a Ubuntu version from orangepi official site and it works
<viko>
I have orange pi lite and orange pi pc+ and they worked fine, but I am with this problem since I bought this OPi3
<lanefu>
man i forgot how terrible the wifi is on the opi zero.. it's so bad. its kind of incredible
<viko>
red led and no boot with nightly version too =\
<HerculeP>
how did you put the .img onto the SD? did you try another card?
<viko>
with burn disc image (from ubuntu 20) and now I'm trying again with etcher
<viko>
I'm trying it in a 8gb sd card (I think not c10), because I'm only with this here. But more later I will try with a class10 sd card, it could be a not c10 sd card the problem too?
* HerculeP
used dd (but etcher should work too)
<HerculeP>
8gb should be ok, not class 10 could be a bit slower tho (but that 8g card could be broken)
<HerculeP>
thats why I suggested to try another card as well
<Tenkawa>
you might want to dd zeros to the first few meg of versthe card just to make sure it doesnt have remnants of old partition table kefto
<Tenkawa>
er leftover
<Tenkawa>
first few meg of the card
<viko>
because when I burn Ubuntu of orangepi official site, it works (I saw that in Ubuntu has 2 partitions, 1 boot and 1 rootfs
<lanefu>
yeah i mean i nkow better than to use this
<lanefu>
ex: here's my orangepi lite that's literally 10 inches away from the opi zero http://ix.io/2twg
<Tenkawa>
anyone got their hands on a nanopi neo 3 yet?
<IgorPec>
not arrived yet
<Werner>
I have one here
<Tenkawa>
Werner: opinions?
<Tenkawa>
I'm thinking of getting one to go with my neo 2
<Tenkawa>
I'm curious about the switch to rockchip
<Werner>
It works. Performance comparable to an H6
<Tenkawa>
nice
<xwigg>
USB / eth speed?
<Tenkawa>
i might go ahead and proceed then
<Tenkawa>
1gb
<Tenkawa>
very nice lan io even on the prior model
<Werner>
Did not do iperf yet. For USB only hdparm -tT yet. It is over 100MB/s which should be expected from a common harddrive.
<Tenkawa>
I should have the prior model back online tonight and I'll throw comparison hdparm numbers up
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<xwigg>
sounds like a good candidate to replace my stuff in the future ;)
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<Tenkawa>
ok my neo image just finished building,, transferring to card now
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<lanefu>
IgorPec: trying to understand how armbian determines difference between N2 and N2+
<ArmbianTwitter>
@pingu_98 (James Devine): At some point I need to write a blog post about running Armbian on my rockpro64, very pleased with it indeed. But I also feel like I need to throw some more serious workloads at it first. (7s ago)
<ArmbianHelper>
AR-99 [Task] "Enable VGA output on Cubietruck" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2019-12-13. Status: To Do
<rm>
and all the first hits in Google point to editing the script.bins
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<nekomancer[m]>
aliexpress: Sorry, your search "8822BU" did not match any products.
<Tenkawa>
if I "could" stack the n2 and n2+ that would be a bit more incentive lol
<rm>
can I just disable the framebuffer console to stay at the plain VGA one?
<lanefu>
yeah no kidding stacking htem both would be cool
<IgorPec>
rm: there is a link to one topic
<IgorPec>
which you have to study. nobody knows
<rm>
I'm not in the mood to "have to study" at this moment, I'm just dismayed that basic feature for an arguably a flagship device still broken years later
<rm>
but thanks for your help in any case
<IgorPec>
do i sense a complaining here ? :)
<lanefu>
Tenkawa: are you the one that works on coreboot?
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<Tenkawa>
lanefu: not I
<Tenkawa>
I work on a debian 64 bit arm bare metal imager
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<lanefu>
Tenkawa: ooo whats that all about
<Tenkawa>
ah
<Tenkawa>
we came up with a manual debian,ubuntu, and devuan imager for various socs just as a hobby for rpi and it kind of exploded
<Tenkawa>
its all menu driven etc
<Tenkawa>
downloads everything you need and builds the non binaries
<Tenkawa>
originally one guy wrote it
<Tenkawa>
I was the main tester
<lanefu>
using uefi?
<Tenkawa>
now when a new board comes along we try to add support for it
<Tenkawa>
for the ones that have it i believe so
<Tenkawa>
I'd have to ask the main dev
<Tenkawa>
I specialize in more of the rpi side
<Tenkawa>
(non efi)
<lanefu>
devuan is intriguing
<Tenkawa>
the ubuntu builds i know have better support for it
<Tenkawa>
yeah devuan on the nanopi runs really well with this approach
<Tenkawa>
taking out the systemd overhead is good for it
<ArmbianHelper>
AR-392 [Task] "Add Odroid N2+" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2020-08-04. Status: In Progress
<archetech>
and a mesa 20.2
<archetech>
to compete with manjaro and odroid-tobetter
<lanefu>
yeah we know we're not competitive on desktops, not our primary mission
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<archetech>
fine for all the other boards that focus but N2+ is about the desktop for many of its buyers
<IgorPec>
both manjaro and tobetter are not usable
<IgorPec>
but implementing more edge stuff, yes
<archetech>
not true but i'd call them both beta's
<IgorPec>
for desktop you don't need much of stability and QA
<archetech>
the n2 has a killer gpu and its in heavy dev
<IgorPec>
yeah, but we don't sell hardware
<archetech>
right I get that
<lanefu>
IgorPec: thanks for hustling together 40 patches and rounding up device tree and auto detection for n2,n2+ hopefully we'll get feedback from some testers
<archetech>
but using a N2 for a nas is like wasting its gpu
<archetech>
better boards around for that use
<archetech>
and cheaper
<IgorPec>
lanefu: yeah. i hope i didn't break audio ... didn't check that
<[TheBug]>
lanefu: weird, got a v7 EBin to test with now and your 5.4.52 image won't boot there -- weird stuff
<lanefu>
[TheBug]: dude seriously throw out 5.4.52
<[TheBug]>
Wrong Ramdisk Image Format
<[TheBug]>
Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid
<[TheBug]>
haha
<lanefu>
seriously we moved to 5.6
<IgorPec>
bug: i have seen that :)
<[TheBug]>
well of course I set it up
<[TheBug]>
um
<[TheBug]>
any easy way to progress kernels and not rewrite my image
<[TheBug]>
feel dumb asking but would save me some effort
<[TheBug]>
hmm
<[TheBug]>
I know
<lanefu>
armbian-config -> system -> other kernels
<lanefu>
and make sure image is set to nightly.. should be
<[TheBug]>
nah I just want kernel images, I will grab you 5.6.19 and jack the uinitrd and image
<IgorPec>
we will certainly not do anything for a while since we are working insane to bring some stable upgrade by the end of this month
<IgorPec>
and upgrading infrastructure along this
<Tenkawa>
archetech: the n2's also has the io non graphics users like me are looking for in a soc.. I have 0 use for a gpu however the N2 makes a great board because of its backplane io and general specs.. and the price point comparison still puts it in competition with other boards.
<lanefu>
[TheBug]: or beta.armbian.com
<Tenkawa>
I have a m.2 hooked up tothis thing via usb and i have not seen another board yet that can match it <80$ like this one was
<archetech>
true that makes the loss of gpu worth it
<archetech>
m.2 ftw
<archetech>
better an nvme
<Tenkawa>
nod. I dont have a single soc hooked up to video here
<Tenkawa>
I wish I had a native pcie slot but… usb will have to suffice
<archetech>
or a nvme ssd x 2 in mirror as a nas yeeha
<archetech>
right whats the usb3 cabable of in mb/s like 350 ?
<archetech>
think a single ssd should saturate it
<Tenkawa>
just a sec
<Tenkawa>
doh i dont have my usb quirks in yet
<Tenkawa>
need to put that in and reboot
<archetech>
too bad its nic is not 2.5gb
<Tenkawa>
(running this on off emmc atm)
<archetech>
for that kind of nas id go H2+
<archetech>
or J4100
<archetech>
then I think well if n2 has 1gb nic ill just use my rock64 for a nas heh
<lanefu>
ya rock64 is kinda perfect for small nas
<archetech>
cuz both can sat the nic
<archetech>
around 110 MB/s
<[TheBug]>
lanefu: I must be unlucky cause 5.6.19 seems to have failed also but I am gonna test different UART also (I did with other image as well)
<archetech>
making the n2 a waste like I said
<[TheBug]>
s/UART/u-boot
<ArmbianHelper>
[TheBug] meant to say: lanefu: I must be unlucky cause 5.6.19 seems to have failed also but I am gonna test different u-boot also (I did with other image as well)
<archetech>
can run crazy fast inside but cant push that speed out a port
<archetech>
but it can push it out the video
<Tenkawa>
ok soon as I reboot I'll speed test the port here
<lanefu>
would still be good for runing a few containers on NAS
<lanefu>
ex: home assistant would be quite spry
<archetech>
and the G52 with emmc hd is all one needs for optimal perf
<lanefu>
whos a G52
<archetech>
n2 gpu
<archetech>
one step lower than mali's top gpu
<lanefu>
i need to setup my new USB hdmi capture with vlc or something
<lanefu>
so i can tinker with desktop crap remotely lol
<archetech>
the rpi4 8gb seems like the best vm runner
<[TheBug]>
hmm :(
<[TheBug]>
Wrong Ramdisk Image Format
<[TheBug]>
Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid
<lanefu>
[TheBug]: mismatched uboot?
<[TheBug]>
I don't know
<[TheBug]>
very strange
<[TheBug]>
another strange thing is this one came ion a grey case
<[TheBug]>
O_o
<[TheBug]>
is labeled v7
<[TheBug]>
very weird stuff
<lanefu>
is it that v7 they sold as pfsense devices
<[TheBug]>
it looks identical except it has grey case instead of white it came in
<lanefu>
would you be up for trying the whole image rather than DIY :)
<[TheBug]>
I did
<[TheBug]>
thats what I am saying
<lanefu>
hmm
<[TheBug]>
I grabbed nightly
<[TheBug]>
and burned it
<[TheBug]>
and this is same result
<[TheBug]>
but of course this is second had ebin too whos to say not some other issue, though looked almost new in box
<[TheBug]>
i dunno
<lanefu>
so 5.6 kernel has a seperate dtb for v7 ebin
<lanefu>
maybe you need to set that up
<[TheBug]>
bout time for food
<[TheBug]>
hmm
<[TheBug]>
interesting point
<[TheBug]>
so
<[TheBug]>
now dumb question
<[TheBug]>
do you supply the v7 dtb in the image
<[TheBug]>
I only see armada-3720-espressobin.dtb
<lanefu>
hmm standby
<[TheBug]>
when doing Marvell>> ext4ls mmc 0 /boot/dtb/marvell
<[TheBug]>
I at least do have a copy of it somewher,
<[TheBug]>
but its time for food, let me know what you find and will test when I retun in 30m or so
<lanefu>
[TheBug]: you speak the truth
<lanefu>
let me check source
<nekomancer[m]>
<Tenkawa "downloads everything you need an"> sounds like unetbootin for SBC
<Tenkawa>
hmm this is odd.. uas sees the drive and tries to add the quirk I put in the boot and dmesg reflects it but thats all
<lanefu>
[TheBug]: ...actually i thikn that's kernel 5.7 that switches that up
<lanefu>
[TheBug]: have you flashed the u-boot/firmware stuff on that board yet?
<Tenkawa>
doh
<Tenkawa>
oh wait that wasnt for me
<Tenkawa>
nm
<Tenkawa>
there we go
<Tenkawa>
cable wasnt in all the way on the drive "doh"