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<lanefu> woohoo I've added a build status badge to the git repo readme
<lanefu> TRS-80: i saw you applied to be a board maintainer
<lanefu> i have no idea where the actual application goes lol
<TRS-80> lanefu: Yeah, I am wondering if that was a bad idea... lol
<TRS-80> I might need a little help to get going at first
<lanefu> It's fun for all ages and skills
<TRS-80> But right now, I am not feeling too hot, and we have Grandma flying in tomorrow night so it's been all hands on deck cleaning, etc...
<TRS-80> So in few more days when things calm down, maybe then I can get into it...
<TRS-80> lanefu: but if you had some pointers, I suppose I will take them, whenever you have time
<lanefu> TRS-80: just ping me whenever you're ready and up for it. no rush
<lanefu> lol
<archetech> lanefu: oh forgot the mintower arm case needs tiny rolling feet too
<archetech> fulltower not mini
<lanefu> hahah
<lanefu> yeah def needs little wheels
* archetech is running gcc 9.2 pass 2 for cross-compiler eb done in ~90 mins
<lanefu> LFS?
<archetech> yup systemd-svn
<archetech> got fan same size as board laying on it :)
<archetech> bbl
<lanefu> haha sounds like sufficient cooling
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<archetech> rockchip wiki is pretty short on explanation for rock64 kernel/uboot
<archetech> assumes alot
<archetech> not an armbian prob I suppose
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<xBADDA555> I spent the whole day investigating the problem I described yesterday. It looks like keyboard is not visible on Armbian_19.11.6_Bananapi_bionic_current_5.4 only during initramfs stage - when it asks me for input (password for disk encryption, or any custom script that uses read -p on non-encrypted sys). If system manages to move forward (for example when my script uses read -t30 -p with a timer), the keyboard will be accessible at
<xBADDA555> some point of systemd and I can login via usb keyboard. First I thought I need to select manually kernel modules and feed /etc/initramfs-tools/modules to fix initramfs problem. That didn't helped. I reverted modules from /etc/initramfs-tools/modules to defaults (empty) and overwritten bootloader, taking it from Armbian_19.11.6_Bananapi_bionicpro_current_5.4. Surprisingly it works and keyboard is now accessible at initramfs stage.
<xBADDA555> Can someone explain that? How the bootloader settings can affect initramfs stage, and why bootloader dedicated to PI PRO is enabling my keyboard, and bootloader dedicated to M1 not. I want to emphasize that my board is M1, and not PRO.
<archetech> nice wall of text
<xBADDA555> I'm glad it is not twitter
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<lanefu> IgorPec: I added the nightly test... the build clears all cache and builds a debian desktop image....
<IgorPec> I noticed, great!
<lanefu> i figured cleaning the cache would catch issues with downloading tools etc as well
<IgorPec> aha, you are making a complete clean build
<IgorPec> that's even better
<lanefu> IgorPec: where do I find submitted applications on the forum.. I saw trs80 submitted one but I have not figured out where to view it
<lanefu> when brittman914 gets his server powered up, i'll have another runner i can add as well :P
<IgorPec> for this jenkins full ... installing headers might also be useful. can i just add it?
<lanefu> yep
<lanefu> go ahead
<IgorPec> there is a button "applicatns"
<lanefu> yeah i've clicked it.. i see the applications... but not like the ones people have filled out/applied
<IgorPec> those are positions
<IgorPec> those are applicants. you should be able to see both
<lanefu> hmm 2nd link didnt work
<IgorPec> but you have a button "Applicants" on the right, just below "User groups"
<IgorPec> ?
<lanefu> here's what I see https://snipboard.io/7krFHA.jpg
<IgorPec> ahaa, i see, i guess only author can see
<lanefu> interesting
<IgorPec> you are not considered as an admin but user which can apply. perhaps its a bug
<IgorPec> this is 3rd party application
<lanefu> so odd
<lanefu> is there like a setting in hte applicaiton to give certain groups acces to review?
<lanefu> maybe just need to add that?
<IgorPec> i see nothin in the admin
<lanefu> weird
<lanefu> what about post itself
<IgorPec> i will update to latest ... one moment
<IgorPec> updated
<lanefu> hmm
<lanefu> there's an Applications section in my moderator view, but shows no records
<lanefu> is your view from moderator empty as well?
<IgorPec> mine is emtpy too
<IgorPec> perhaps this will start to work from now on
<IgorPec> if new will be added
<lanefu> ahh okay
<lanefu> i'll ask TRS to apply again so we can test it
<IgorPec> he applied and someone accepted ... thats' what i can see
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<lanefu> ohh
<lanefu> ha
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<TRS-80> I like this Bubbadestroy character :D
<TRS-80> "disclosure fitting for rockchip" - Bubba am not certified to do anything except destroy. To give you an idea, Bubba had to carry a rock to tech school during basic electronic week for dumb as rock answer. A week how long it took to realize there's rocks everywhere and Bub didn't have to carry a rock for a week in the first place!
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<maccraft> hello
<maccraft> i have issues running xorg on my cubieboard2 that has installed armbian buster on it
<maccraft> here is xorg log https://bpaste.net/RV6Q
<TRS-80> Hi maccraft
<maccraft> hi TRS-80
<TRS-80> There are only handful of us active in here, you may get an answer if you hang around, but if you don't may be best to make a forum post.
<lanefu> Have you tried changing permissions on /dev/dri/card0
<maccraft> lanefu: yes
<maccraft> i tried chmod 777 too
<maccraft> yes my user is in video group
<maccraft> yes i have latest versions of packages installed
<maccraft> yes lima is loaded
<lanefu> Hmm
<maccraft> yes i tried asking in #lima
<lanefu> What SoC is cubieboard2
<maccraft> A20
<TRS-80> Support ended (EOS)
<maccraft> there are over 1000000 words in english and there still are not enough words to describe how much i want to hit TRS-80 with a chair
<TRS-80> hey how about fuck off? there it took me only two
<TRS-80> I'll give you my address, stop by any time
<maccraft> nah
<TRS-80> fucking internet tough guy
<maccraft> this isn't going anywhere
<TRS-80> yes because you chose to be a cunt
<maccraft> sorry for that
<TRS-80> now fuck off
<maccraft> why is cubie2 eos?
<TRS-80> I have no idea, and was just trying to point out relevant information
<TRS-80> there could be lots of reasons
<TRS-80> could be banal as no Devs own one
<maccraft> then i can be a dev
<TRS-80> if hardare is similar, it could (and I imagine might be) easy to get going, but I have no idea
<TRS-80> yes you could very possibly get it back on supported list
<TRS-80> but we are only few people and cannot support everything, often is the answer
<maccraft> there are other devices with a20 that are supported
<maccraft> like cubietruck
<TRS-80> yes that is what I was saying, I imagine it shouldn't be too hard (but I don't know for sure)
<phipli_lurk> Any recommendations on an 802.11ac usb adapter?
<TRS-80> phipli_lurk: not in Freedom ;)
<phipli_lurk> Hum?
<TRS-80> no ac drivers I think available that are F/LOSS
<TRS-80> currently
<phipli_lurk> Ah right
<phipli_lurk> shame
* TRS-80 has to get back to straightening up the house
<TRS-80> picking up Grandma at airport tonight...
<maccraft> ok then, TRS-80. i am trying to get cubieboard 2 back into supported boards. what should i do?
<phipli_lurk> My AP supports ac and while most of the house is ethernet... it would be nice if the wireless was less of a bottle neck on my laptop
<maccraft> phipli_lurk: connect laptop via ethernet
<phipli_lurk> TRS-80 : move everything into the shed
<TRS-80> maccraft: Start looking into it, or make a post in https://forum.armbian.com/forum/25-peer-to-peer-technical-support/ "Armbian support ended or never existed - 3rd party boards and external hardware"
<phipli_lurk> maccraft : no
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<phipli_lurk> If I wanted to be tethered, I'd use my desktop
<phipli_lurk> Which is faster and better
<TRS-80> When people see you working on it, they will likely help. Maybe state you intend to get it back on Supported list, maybe Igor or someone else respond with why it is not. Also you could search forums. Maybe you will learn why already.
<TRS-80> maccraft: ^
<TRS-80> maccraft: Good luck
<TRS-80> phipli_lurk: LD
<TRS-80> s/LD/:D
<TRS-80> OK gotta run, wife getting increasingly anxious :D
<phipli_lurk> :)
<Tonymac32> maccraft: if a board is EOS despite having the same SoC as other supported boards, it probably means the devs (all 5-6 of us) don't have one to test, and don't have any reason to get/ask for one
<maccraft> Tonymac32: in that case, how to apply as dev?
<Tonymac32> you don't have to apply, you just pull the repo, make some builds, update patches, test, and submit a PR to the repo
<Tonymac32> you get called a dev by doing, not by applyingf, we're not that formal
<maccraft> everything is working.
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<maccraft> there is no reason that board is eos
<Tonymac32> Like I think was probably brought up earlier, then bring the topic on the forum
<Tonymac32> there is no reason you know of, that does not mean there is no reason. It can be arbitrary, 1 guy actually runs the show, the rest contribute as much as they can
<maccraft> also xorg runs slow as fuck
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* Tonymac32 shrugs
<Tonymac32> it's an A20
<Tonymac32> my 486 is slow too
<maccraft> disabling compositing makes it slower
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<Tonymac32> my knowledge of xorg is pretty close to <null>
<maccraft> 3d acceleration doesn't work
<Tonymac32> lanefu: Kubernetes
<Tonymac32> XD
<maccraft> ok this is legit
<maccraft> i spent 10 minutes researching why mouse isn't working
<maccraft> and then i looked into mouse
<maccraft> receiver wasn't plugged into board xD
<lanefu> EVIL
<Tonymac32> lanefu :)
<Tonymac32> I'm trying to figure out exactly what to do with these MC1 Solos, I'm thinking as a warm-up to have CI set up for my micro projects and completely unnecessarily build farm it
<lanefu> Tonymac32: yeah check out rancher
<lanefu> if you want something simpler with harder documentation check out hashicorp nomad
<lanefu> maccraft: yeah support is very adhoc... just nature of the project... https://docs.armbian.com/#what-is-supported
<lanefu> i wish there was a better word than "supported" honestly
<maccraft> lanefu: "you will probably get help"
<lanefu> so did you fix X while i wasn't looking
<maccraft> lanefu: is X my board?
<maccraft> it wasn't broken
<lanefu> no you said you werent getting Xorg to start
<lanefu> right?
<maccraft> yea
<maccraft> armsoc doesn't work with lima
<Tonymac32> lanefu my guess for the a20 x issue is the configuration file, so if maccraft peeks into the postinst configuration parts of the script it will probably be found that lima needs a different xorg.conf
<lanefu> Tonymac32: sounds about right
<maccraft> Tonymac32: i made a mistake of assuming that armsoc is better than modesetting
<lanefu> and yes we'd totally take a PR for that
<Tonymac32> now, knowing it needs something different != to knowing what it needs, so my ability to guide ends there
<maccraft> and there is no "desktop" image
<lanefu> accross teh board the GPU stuff is a PITA on a good day
<maccraft> yea
<maccraft> i am now updating to bullseye for muh 3d
<lanefu> you can build a desktop image yoruself by using armbin build engine
<lanefu> fyi
<maccraft> armbian is the only thing that i got to boot xD
<lanefu> the best of the broken
<maccraft> so, can you pull cubieboard2 back into "supported" list?
<maccraft> or do i need to make a blood sacrifice xD?
<lanefu> you want to supply some patches then maybe we can promote to CSC if you wanna support it
<maccraft> well the only patches i can see are for image builds to download
<Tonymac32> well, the issue is people expect that we have at least tested something we call "supported", which none of us can do. A csc can get builds (I don't personally agree with this, but it is such now)
<maccraft> like desktop image with debian testing
<lanefu> put that on an ubuntu VM
<lanefu> can you can build an image
<maccraft> can you can?
<Tonymac32> maccraft you haven't exactly made a great impression so far, talking about bashing people with chairs, I'd take it wasy on correcting typos
<lanefu> *you can
<lanefu> yeah i'm trying to guide you a good place and you're kinda bein a dick man
<lanefu> i was working on pointing you to the board customize scripts where you'd need to make an adjustmnet
<lanefu> if you don't care, just tell me and I'll stop
<maccraft> that typo could have also been "can you build an image"
<maccraft> i care
<lanefu> anyway if you can carve out an ubuntu VM somewhere with 40 or 50 gigs of space
<lanefu> you can build debian and ubuntu desktop images for your cubie
<lanefu> ibelieve nicod has a video that is an overview of how to use the build engine
<lanefu> lemme find it
<maccraft> thaks
<maccraft> thanks*
<lanefu> yah glad to help
<lanefu> its fun to use
<maccraft> how much ram does build system need?
<Tonymac32> more is better, but it's mostly a speed thing
<maccraft> is 4gb enough?
<lanefu> yeah 4 is enough
<lanefu> more cores the better
<lanefu> Tonymac32: yeah mine doesnt use much ram...
<lanefu> like you could get away with 2 gig
<lanefu> but... file cahcing etc
<Tonymac32> lanefu I use a dedicated machine, and RAM cache it for speeds
<Tonymac32> ;-)
<lanefu> same
<lanefu> lane@billroyall:~/GIT/ci-testing-tools$ free
<lanefu> total used free shared buff/cache available
<lanefu> Mem: 264033356 2156584 124307172 2292 137569600 260068388
<lanefu> Swap: 0 0 0
<lanefu> i put the builder on top of a ramdisk once lol
<Tonymac32> goodness, I installed the newest firmware on my router, they must have had an epic bug in their code before, speeds are way better now
<lanefu> wow
<lanefu> yeah ubiquiti has a 2.x versin of their firmware that uses a 4.x kernel instead of 3.x but for the longest time it was slower lol
<maccraft> aaand bullseye boots
<lanefu> whats bullseye
<maccraft> debian testing
<lanefu> oh
<lanefu> Tonymac32: alright i'm gonna put an image on a mc1 right now and get the thing online
<Tonymac32> I had to build a 5.4 myself, the dl testing one is borked
<maccraft> idk if mali400 is really slow or something is broken
<Tonymac32> I ran into trouble with lima and the xorg packaged with Debian
<lanefu> Tonymac32: oh that's not good
<maccraft> Tonymac32: i am not an expert, but windows shouldn't disappear randomly when moving a mouse
<Tonymac32> Igor threw a fix into the main tree, so build there. Once I get the rk3328 sound patch pushed (I forgot to :( ) we should RC2 probably
<maccraft> well that's the reason: modeset(0): Page flip failed: No such file or directory
<maccraft> probably
<Tonymac32> lol I need to clean out my build folder:
<Tonymac32> o.k. ] Checking for external GCC compilers
<Tonymac32> [ warn ] Low free space left [ 7 GiB ]
<lanefu> she's a little full
<Tonymac32> I always get in trouble because it's the trash can that's full
<Tonymac32> when I use the file manager to delete everything
<lanefu> ha
<lanefu> Did you see we added a nightly build status to the readme
<lanefu> i get excited easily
<Tonymac32> haha I saw
<Tonymac32> ... I have 35 img's in the trash can
<maccraft> why anything non-debian is not supported?
<lanefu> huh?
<Tonymac32> ...we're a debian based distro
<Tonymac32> so debian and ubuntu
<Tonymac32> lol now I have 134 GB free
<maccraft> yea but compiling a debian distro should be supported on ex. arch linux
<maccraft> imo
<lanefu> that's just not what the project is about
<maccraft> yea
<maccraft> oh no ubuntu doesn't provide rootfs anymore :(
<maccraft> nvm my eyes are bad
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<Tonymac32> building images isn't trivial, and doing it from a different host platform even less so.
<lanefu> yeah there's lots of methods for doing bootstraps of different distros
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<lanefu> spirit of armbian is to try to have things dialed in more
<lanefu> Tonymac32: were you saying hte RC1 image wasn't working on the odorid mc1? or were you talking about something else
<maccraft> arch has debootstrap in it's community repo that is by default included
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<Tonymac32> lanefu the RC1 was getting to heartbeat and then bombing for me, so I built my own
<lanefu> okay that's not good... i guess i should get a console
<Tonymac32> maccraft but maintaining the Armbian scripts in relation to the quirks that will result would be very time consuming. So we just have VM images
<Tonymac32> lanefu Igor is aware, he mentioned building from trunk
<Tonymac32> which worked
<lanefu> k
<maccraft> trunk?
<lanefu> master branch
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<Tonymac32> being rerouted I see
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<maccraft> tomaw made an annoucment thing
<lanefu> stupid netsplits
<maccraft> tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw): [Global Notice] We'll shortly be rerouting a number of servers [...]
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<lanefu> oh
<Tonymac32> Yeah, I read it when it came up
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<lanefu> yeah i guess weechat was hiding that in the other buffer
<maccraft> in freenode server buffer
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<lanefu> Tonymac32: okay I cherry pick'd his fix into the rc1 branch
<lanefu> building and if it works i'll merge into RC1
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<Tonymac32> testing the rock64 audio patch against the newest, mailing list is more or less advocating keeping it wrong with the ability to tweak boards that need to not have broken drivers, I'm keeping the clean implementation for now.
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<lanefu> man
<lanefu> so that issue impacts like all RK2288?
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<Tonymac32> the 3328 codec driver is crappy, it directly toggle the Mute signal. Rock64 likewise has a "light" design flaw in that it uses the Mute line to toggle the SD voltage
<lanefu> Ohhh
<lanefu> IgorPec: I pushed an update to `VERSION` does that cause the base filesystems to be mismatched?
<lanefu> i remember you talking about that yesterday :P
<IgorPec> no, base system have no troubles with that
<lanefu> okay cool
<lanefu> i just havent watched a full image build in a while i guess
<maccraft> Tonymac32: do you have lima issues on ooboontoo too?
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<lanefu> ohhhh lol I build Ubuntu-minimal lol
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<lanefu> man it sure is sketchy when I dd to my usb-sdreader from my helios4 full of drives
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<lanefu> Hmmmm well that build didn't work..... and no serial console output
<lanefu> looks like heartbeating and rebooting tho
<lanefu> so i'm a bit confused
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<Tonymac32> weird, mine has been up for a couple hours now
<lanefu> i'm testing bad image
<lanefu> with a cherry-pick
<lanefu> i think i found hte next one to add
<lanefu> there's no point in having releases if we dont make them work
<lanefu> just surprised there was no u-boot serial on the bad image
<Tonymac32> I haven't spent any time with the XU4 builds, just used them. :-P
<lanefu> no worries
<archetech> there's no point in having releases if we dont make them work +1
<archetech> little wheels=castors was the word I wanted
<archetech> fixed base would be ok too such a funny idea perfect hook for sales
<archetech> novelty
<lanefu> yeah the castors could be a single ball bearing in a sleeve
<archetech> all it needs is a small pico psu to add inside
<archetech> have standoffs too so rpi4/rock64 screws right in
<lanefu> hmm i think i know why it didnt work
<lanefu> upstream source was changed for the kernel
<lanefu> and my checkout still had the old source configured for origin
<lanefu> Tonymac32: which image did you build?
<lanefu> im going bonkers cuz like none of my builds are working
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<archetech> myabe in the process you can find the answer for rock64 too