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<lanefu>
what sdcard are you using
<archetech>
snadisk
<archetech>
san
<lanefu>
do you have another one you can try
<archetech>
yup
<archetech>
I did that too
<lanefu>
FYI if you do get a srial cable... teh u-boot baud rate is _really_ weird.. its 1500000 rather than 115200 etc
<archetech>
yeah seen that
<lanefu>
so i was wondering if i booted w/o sdcard if i'd see a u-boot from the spi
<lanefu>
yeah if its using the EFI hack, then it can use a standard build
<lanefu>
kinda sorta
<lanefu>
lol
<archetech>
its ayufan rock64 bionic
<archetech>
all arnbian uses is his uboot and kernel I think
<lanefu>
probably kernel
<lanefu>
u-boot is likely different
<archetech>
other thing thats diff is you got yours from ebay mines that recon sentinel
<lanefu>
oh
<lanefu>
yours is literally a recon sentinel?
<archetech>
yes
<lanefu>
oh i thought you were sayin gthat liquidated lot was
<archetech>
remenber you saw it on amazon
<lanefu>
yep yep
<lanefu>
yeah it was even in a little pine branded box
<lanefu>
so i guess it was just a good deal
<archetech>
makes me wonder if they got modified at recon
<archetech>
no its in a recon palstic case
<archetech>
plastic
<lanefu>
no i mean mine was in a pine branded box
<archetech>
oh
<lanefu>
so you've got the recon csae and lcd thing
<archetech>
yeah
<archetech>
I cut a hole for hdmi
<archetech>
but all this work its been out of its case
<lanefu>
lol cases
<lanefu>
like putting your SBC in a sweatshirt
<archetech>
only place to get a v3 is fr pine direct ?
<lanefu>
dunno if there's any ressellers or not
<lanefu>
this is my first pine product and my first rockchip
<archetech>
hope ya can find a use for it you got a good one it seems
<lanefu>
more compute for the ole nomad cluster
<lanefu>
would make a good node if i can get emmc for it
<archetech>
emmc be careful read about pickiness
<lanefu>
yeah i was curious about that
<lanefu>
i've got a librecmputer branded one on my le potato
<lanefu>
and a odroid branded one on my n2
<lanefu>
was hoping i coudl just get another librecomputer one
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<Tonymac32>
Howdy y'all
<Tonymac32>
lanefu I found your recommendation of Rancher to be ironic, since you detest Kubernetes so
<lanefu>
haha
<Tonymac32>
I was playing around to see how easy it was to get Jenkins running on one of the MC1's, it took about 5 minutes. So that's cool
<lanefu>
good good
<lanefu>
yeah java -- the original cross platform solution
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<lanefu>
you could insatll openjdk on your other MC1s, and just setup a user account and ssh key
<lanefu>
and then make then runners/slaves
<lanefu>
jenkins will do the rest.. ssh in, install the runner jar and bootstarp it
<lanefu>
*bootstrap
<Tonymac32>
hi TRS-80
<TRS-80>
Evening, Tonymac32! :)
<TRS-80>
and lanefu
<TRS-80>
and everyone else :)
<lanefu>
hi TRS-80 thanks for choosing #armbian
<Tonymac32>
hahaha
<TRS-80>
lol I thought I was the greeter?
<lanefu>
well who watches the watchman and who greets the greeter
<Tonymac32>
"Thank you for calling Advance Auto Parts and Batteries, Tony speaking, how can I help you?"
<Tonymac32>
^I'll remember that on my death bed
<lanefu>
haha
<TRS-80>
you used to work there I take it?
<Tonymac32>
yeah, I was a floor supervisor, in line for parts pro, but then got my career going
<Tonymac32>
I had customers that would only talk to me, it was funny
<lanefu>
haha
<TRS-80>
well, I bet you knew your shit
<lanefu>
i was a tech at sears autocenter..... i dodged a similar career bullet i suppose
<TRS-80>
I have certain people I prefer to talk to at certain stores around here, too
<Tonymac32>
haha, to be fair, without a degree, and the associated debt, I could be a store manager by now and living more comfortably
<TRS-80>
F that though
<TRS-80>
dealing with people calling in, turnover, etc...
<lanefu>
retail is hard
* Tonymac32
would have become an electrician if he had known
<Tonymac32>
You learn interesting things in that job
<Tonymac32>
for instance, the only reliable subarus were made in the late 90's by accident
<Tonymac32>
The only ones.
<lanefu>
rofl
<sarnold>
lol
<lanefu>
yeah....
<Tonymac32>
and even they need new CV axles every 30k
<Tonymac32>
if you have a Chevy of any variety, you will tell a parts store "It don't matter, they're all the same"
<Tonymac32>
...even if it's a Cavalier
<lanefu>
i got longer on my cvs than that
<Tonymac32>
haha
<lanefu>
but WTF rear wheel bearings bad at 70k on my wife's forester
<Tonymac32>
so, I worked in a hub store, so it's a local warehouse.
<Tonymac32>
we had CV axles for everything
<Tonymac32>
for the Ford Ranger/explorer (you know, 20 billion on the road), we stocked 4 axles total for the region
<lanefu>
hahahaha
<Tonymac32>
for subaru we had 2 shelving units floor to ceiling
<Tonymac32>
we ran out
<Tonymac32>
more than once
<lanefu>
that explains why i was able to get NEW ones for $30 from rockauto for my wrx
<Tonymac32>
hahah
<Tonymac32>
my brother had a 2010 WRX, he traded it in before the warranty ran out
<Tonymac32>
it had a new transmission, new CV axles, new front wheel bearings,
<Tonymac32>
and the knock counter hit double digits within 10 miles
<lanefu>
hahaha
<Tonymac32>
oh, he got a rock chip on the hood
<Tonymac32>
turned into a silver-dollar sized rust spot within a month
<Tonymac32>
but enough on Subaru, I honestly feel like they at least try
<sarnold>
ow :(
<Tonymac32>
VW's. We stocked 4 oil pans for Jettas
<Tonymac32>
I think we had 12 oil pans in the whole store
<Tonymac32>
1/3 of them were for a car only 1 in 1000 people in that area drove
<lanefu>
jeez
<lanefu>
like a phaeton
<Tonymac32>
they are really low, apparently German roads are pretty good
<lanefu>
Ohhhhhhhh
<Tonymac32>
they require warranties from the road companies if I heard correctly
<Tonymac32>
and taxes
<lanefu>
man that sounds wonderful
<sarnold>
and I don't think oil pans are even the leading problems on those; water ingress or the window raisers busting in the cold...
<Tonymac32>
Oh, don't get me started on VW
<Tonymac32>
Subaru is 10x better
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<sarnold>
I mean, I really liked mine and was sad when it was wrecked; but I had to vacuum water out of my footwells more than once..
<lanefu>
yeah manufacturing in mexico didnt do much fr their quality
<Tonymac32>
hahaha
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<sarnold>
2001 passat..
<lanefu>
ha yeah
<Tonymac32>
well, a lot of it is design if I'm to lend my opinion. They are very likeable machines
<lanefu>
burning out headlights every 3 months?
<Tonymac32>
but
<Tonymac32>
and they're the ones you have to use the little spring clip on
<sarnold>
lanefu: hah, yeah, I did have to replace headlights on that more often than one would expect
<Tonymac32>
and be double jointed
<sarnold>
I hadn't realized that was a vw-special :)
<Tonymac32>
chassis components are pretty rough on most of those as well
<Tonymac32>
and $$$
<lanefu>
99-01 had a particular weakness in the electrical area
<Tonymac32>
Lucas Electric got the contract
<Tonymac32>
:-D
<lanefu>
wiat
<lanefu>
okay
<lanefu>
you were just joking
<Tonymac32>
hahaha
<lanefu>
i was like.... vwjaguar
<Tonymac32>
oooof
<Tonymac32>
so S10 Blazers, if they don't start, 75% chance it's the fuel pump
<lanefu>
i had 3 s10 blazers
<Tonymac32>
and being a Chevy, probably a cheap fuel pump, eh?
<lanefu>
did a fuel pump in my 99 in the parking lot
<Tonymac32>
hahahaha
<lanefu>
had to cut it out
<Tonymac32>
we had a pile of those too
<lanefu>
and gas tank was half full lol
<Tonymac32>
$300
<Tonymac32>
and ouch
<Tonymac32>
I did my Ranger alternator in the parking lot. Right on top though, I used the store battery cart. :-)
<lanefu>
dude
<Tonymac32>
that is one of the Ranger/Explorer/F150 problems, garbage alternators
<lanefu>
so for a while
<lanefu>
I had the world's newest 94 ranger
<lanefu>
it was a double old man turck
<Tonymac32>
niiice
<lanefu>
3.0v6, 5speed, extended cab, long bad... AC, AMFM radio, cruise control
<lanefu>
manual windows and doors
<Tonymac32>
was it green?
<lanefu>
had 30k on it
<lanefu>
grey
<lanefu>
red interior
<Tonymac32>
haha ok
<lanefu>
this was like 7 years ago
<lanefu>
to give you context of its timemachine like characteristics
<Tonymac32>
my ranger is the 4.0 SOHC automatic 4wd, roll your own windows, lock your own locks
<lanefu>
i hated driving it, it wasnt really fun, but it was really tight because itwas sooo low miles
<Tonymac32>
7 years ago with a 30k 94 Ranger
<lanefu>
it had a bunch of old car low miles problems.. replaced a lot of rubber
<lanefu>
but you knwo what pushed me over the edge
<lanefu>
1 phillips screw
<Tonymac32>
yeah, and the old Ford rubber parts were not ok with ethanol
<lanefu>
1 screw
<lanefu>
made me spend 25k on a new truck
<Tonymac32>
uh-oh
<lanefu>
i was so close to making it perfect
<lanefu>
and there was like somethign i had to replace
<lanefu>
and there was this hardline on the top of the motor that was i nthe way
<lanefu>
held on by a philips screw
<lanefu>
i warped the tip of my manual impact screwdriver
<archetech>
still have my 2004 Blazer its a tank
<Tonymac32>
hahahaha I think I know the one, (brother in law has a 3.0)
<lanefu>
i gave up
<lanefu>
i did every trick i knew
<archetech>
gotta replace the fuel filter or pump will go
<lanefu>
i literally got pissed and bought a silverado
<lanefu>
'04 is that the last year?
<Tonymac32>
archetech they actually have too small of wire to the pump, it gets undervoltage too on top of normal wear
<archetech>
ah good to know
<archetech>
fuel lines are crap
<Tonymac32>
the connector can corrode off too
<Tonymac32>
so a periodic checkup is good
<archetech>
had one pop this winter
<Tonymac32>
my Ranger is an 04, I'm buying some patch panels, it and Michigan have been at war
<archetech>
no coating on them they rust through
<lanefu>
i love it how the Americans just start talking about broken cars late night in #armbian
<archetech>
its reg talk in mich
<lanefu>
yeah i'm from KY originally. everyone is a mechanic somehow
<archetech>
car capital
<JackFrost>
I mean salt is pretty bad crap, but ice makes driving fun..
<lanefu>
yeah snow and ice donuts are fun
<Tonymac32>
archetech I use weld-through primer and thoroughly paint when done
* Tonymac32
mutters about JackFrost extolling the virtues ice and snow
<JackFrost>
Heh, I quite like the stuff, but everyone forgets how to drive once even an inch shows up.
<lanefu>
in his defense, his name is JackFrost
<Tonymac32>
lanefu exactly
<Tonymac32>
I love driving around in the stuff, but other people make it a hazard
<lanefu>
yep yep
<Tonymac32>
I need to weld on a new bedside, and patch the bedfloor
<lanefu>
so my wrx is an '03.. which means it NO TRACTION CONTROL!
* Tonymac32
driving around with no bed and magnetic trailer lights this spring
<lanefu>
hahaha
<archetech>
I also owned a new subaru and vw gti back in the day
<sarnold>
JackFrost: hah :)
<Tonymac32>
so, the Mark IV GTI was HILARIOUS
<lanefu>
Tonymac32: not just gonna make a bed out of 2x6s
<Tonymac32>
hmmmmm
<Tonymac32>
might aid with my traction problems
<archetech>
1984 CD car of the year
<Tonymac32>
84? nice!@
<Tonymac32>
My friend had a Mk-IV, and he couldn't pull away from a Ford Taurus with a 3.0 Duratec
<Tonymac32>
of course the VR-6 is kind of a novelty engine
<Tonymac32>
and those poor golf's were heavy
<archetech>
the ones out now are amazing
<Tonymac32>
they are decidedly better
<archetech>
top models
<archetech>
not the generic gti
<Tonymac32>
hopefully they don't repeat the time a Golf-R got beat around Nuerburgring by a Cobalt SS..
<Tonymac32>
some of my coworkers have them, they are fun
<JackFrost>
I liked the Ford Taurus, nice car to drive. :3
<archetech>
taurus SHO is nice
<lanefu>
oh man i loved the SHO, my friend had 3 of em
<Tonymac32>
I had a Mercury Sable, haha, so leather, sunroof, Duratec, if it wasn't a rot box I'd still have it
<lanefu>
the V8 one was sooo weird
<Tonymac32>
Yamaha
<lanefu>
yeah
<lanefu>
i had a 92 sable with the 3.8 so it was like pretty fast
<Tonymac32>
the old SHO was awesome, the second SHO was ok
<Tonymac32>
the third one weighs as much as a dumptruck
<Tonymac32>
so
<lanefu>
yeah buddy had an 89, 94? and then the new body style one
<lanefu>
the 94 was awesome
<archetech>
had aa 94 buick witha 3.8 that motor wow
<Tonymac32>
the Buick 3800 was good
<lanefu>
different 3.8, but yeah the gm 3.8 was good
<archetech>
just efi but it was fast
<Tonymac32>
the supercharged one was hilarious
<Tonymac32>
the Ford 3.8 was a mixed bag, it wanted to be a 302 sooo bad
<Tonymac32>
but someone chopped off it's extra cylinders
<lanefu>
haha
<lanefu>
kinda like chevy 4.3
<Tonymac32>
that's how you got the 3.8 (ford), 3.8 Buick, 4.3 Chevy
<Tonymac32>
any 90 degree V6 was that way
<lanefu>
yeah
<lanefu>
lol dude i had the 2.8 in my 86 blazer
<Tonymac32>
Ford didn't let the 3.8 die for a long time, they made the bigger 4.2
<lanefu>
with the worlds loudest fan clutch
<Tonymac32>
hahaha the 2800
<lanefu>
such a pig
<Tonymac32>
well, maybe. It could have been one of about a dozen flavors of 2.8
<Tonymac32>
did you know that engine was also in the Jeep cherokee?
<lanefu>
yep
<Tonymac32>
the elusive Cherokee V6
<Tonymac32>
only a tad better than the 2.5L 4-cylinder
<lanefu>
more like evade getting one
<Tonymac32>
well, the 4.0 I6 in those gunk up so bad, the average one makes about 95 HP today
<lanefu>
man... so i had a 92-door cherokee.. first year of HO 4.0
<Tonymac32>
so the 2.8 ones are now competetive
<lanefu>
loved that thing
<lanefu>
mean you wanna LOL at HP
<lanefu>
the 5.9L AMC 360 in my 86' grand wagoneer
<lanefu>
its like.. 150?
<Tonymac32>
hahaha AMC
<Tonymac32>
yeah probably
<lanefu>
I just blew my jeep EFI money on my stupid wrx revival
<Tonymac32>
my coworker has an AMX, he lined up like he wanted to race my Ranger...
<Tonymac32>
I know he;d win, but he didn't have enough road to do it safely, because he wouldn't win by enough
<lanefu>
haha
<Tonymac32>
cool car, he takes amazing care of it
<lanefu>
yeah they're pretty rad
<lanefu>
have you seen the gremlin documentary
<lanefu>
it'll make you shed tears for AMC
<Tonymac32>
I've seen some of the stuff about the Gremlin
<lanefu>
they had tesla style panel gaps
<Tonymac32>
hahahahahahaha
<lanefu>
sick burn,right? lol
<Tonymac32>
I saw a video comparing Tesla to a random SUV and the Tesla was more than double the body gap variation
<lanefu>
yeah its brilliant
<Tonymac32>
and it wasn't a nice SUV, it was like a Nissan or Mitsu or something
<lanefu>
non car people want them
<lanefu>
and they just like dont give a shit abotu panel gaps
<lanefu>
cuz pandora
<lanefu>
i'll buy a tesla when TRS-80 ports libreboot to them
<Tonymac32>
rofl I won't
<Tonymac32>
their battereis are a bonfire waiting to happen
<TRS-80>
lanefu: no don't, you are too valuable to the project to die in a fire
<Tonymac32>
ROFL
<TRS-80>
dammit Tonymac32 beat me to the punch
<lanefu>
somehow i didnt know that was a thing iwth them
<Tonymac32>
so Tesla has done nothing special with their batteries, the chemistry was known long before them, it's just that no one wanted roman candles
<lanefu>
so what about the other EV companies are they just running hte same setup
<Tonymac32>
nope, this is why their batteries have lower energy densities
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<Tonymac32>
Tesla got the energy density via a specific electrode chemistry, shich also results in less stable cells
<Tonymac32>
so charging is a lot more finicky, and must be very carefully controlled
<Tonymac32>
HAHAHA I found the video, it's a subaru
<lanefu>
Tonymac32: i have a boxer weakness.. i had a '74 karmann ghia
<Tonymac32>
omg this is amazing
<Tonymac32>
"You listen to the LAda, then the Lada take care of you"
<lanefu>
hahah
<lanefu>
this is good
<Tonymac32>
The ability to drive in that field is something to appreciate
<Tonymac32>
"Less electronics, less problems"
<Tonymac32>
I agree with this
<Tonymac32>
(Ironic, I know)
<TRS-80>
nothing for days, and then this outburst
<TRS-80>
I just read back over all of that, after checking in at forums
<Tonymac32>
haha
* TRS-80
makes mental note about unusual sources of obscure car information of a certain vintage
<Tonymac32>
I really don't think I want any more cars newer than 2010
<Tonymac32>
the Fusion is a mishmash of older crap thrown together
<Tonymac32>
nothing fancy or complicated
<Tonymac32>
2.5L Mazda engine, port injected
<Tonymac32>
normal transmission (no manual option)
<Tonymac32>
no hybrid, no CVT, no dual clutch,
<Tonymac32>
no direct injection
<Tonymac32>
gets 29 mpg on my commute (mostly city)
<lanefu>
yeah thats nice n normal
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<lanefu>
kinda how i feel about my truck... just a few modules that control stuff, nothing too crazy
<Tonymac32>
it has hooks on the engine in case you need to pull it (unlike my 4.0 German motor), so you will never need to (unlike my 4.0 German motor)
<Tonymac32>
:P
<lanefu>
haha
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<lanefu>
oddly i like the CVT in wife's forester
<lanefu>
i thought i'd hate it
<Tonymac32>
Ford Köln designed and manufactured the Ranger engine, with it's 3 timing chains, and 50 HP per liter of displacement
<TRS-80>
> 3 timing chaing
<lanefu>
eeeek
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<lanefu>
wasnt there a generation of 4cyl rangers that had 8 spark plugs
<Tonymac32>
And, like all good German timing chain sets, it fails magnificently
<TRS-80>
normaly I would take up for Das Vaterland, but that is indefensible
<lanefu>
yeah i had no idea teh 4.0 was a german thing
<Tonymac32>
the 2.8, 2.9, 4.0 OHV, and 4.0 SOHC
<Tonymac32>
so mine started making the rattle, so there is some pro-con here
<Tonymac32>
116k miles on it
<Tonymac32>
when I pulled the engine and opened it up, it had no timing chain guides on the passenger side
<Tonymac32>
and the main timing chain was likewise freewheeling
<Tonymac32>
I had redlined it a few times that week
<Tonymac32>
so, it can run broken for quite some time apparently
* TRS-80
misses the days of having a shop where he could work on things
<Tonymac32>
the passenger timing chain is on the back of the engine
<andrevallestero[>
In `build/patch/kernel/meson64-dev/` are all the patches required to be applied sequentially?
<Tonymac32>
for no reason
<Tonymac32>
andrevallestero[ usually yes
<Tonymac32>
or at least safer if followed
<Tonymac32>
so, the 4.0 has no timing marks on anything, and no keyways on the cam sprockets, or the jackshafts
<Tonymac32>
there is a special toolkit to keep everything aligned, and even that is, well, not great
<TRS-80>
> special tools
<TRS-80>
this is what I don't like about Ford, especially newer Fords
<TRS-80>
and I am (was? not sure) a "Ford guy" (well, trucks, mostly)
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* lanefu
looks the other way
<Tonymac32>
triple square
* Tonymac32
looks at the VW guys
<TRS-80>
lanefu: my daily driver still has the aforementioned 3800 in it, FWIW...
<TRS-80>
don't worry, I only get into religious wars over Free Software XD
<lanefu>
haha
<TRS-80>
such a relief, I know XD
<Tonymac32>
I know of a 3.0 vulcan that has been running on milkshakes for several years
<Tonymac32>
unlike the newer 3.5, which sieves immediately
<Tonymac32>
siezes
<TRS-80>
I only went few days before deciding to park it and re-do the whole top end (famous 3800 stove pipe intake manifold issue)
<TRS-80>
few days on milkshakes, in case that wasn't clear
<TRS-80>
maybe couple I dunno, I didn't want to risk it
<lanefu>
milkshakes == antifreeze in oil? or just a snake oil snot concoction?
<TRS-80>
plastic intake manifold would leak around egr stovepipe going through it (brilliant, eh?) and give symptoms like blown head hasket
<TRS-80>
coolant in oil
<lanefu>
bleh been there
<lanefu>
weekly oil changes are fun
<TRS-80>
in the old days I had this old style (think it was an 83) F-150 that eventually leaked so much oil I carried a box everywhere and got out and put it underneath every time I stopped XD
<TRS-80>
young dumb and poor
<lanefu>
ha thats the combo
<Tonymac32>
for the GM 60 degrees there are really nice permatex gaskets to deal with their LIM leaking, for the 3800 I think they have something for that too
<TRS-80>
Tonymac32: I did all the homework at the time and bought the recommended "fixer" upgraded aftermarket parts
<Tonymac32>
nice
<TRS-80>
they were not much more as I recall (if any) and esp. considering all the labor involved
<Tonymac32>
yeah. So getting the timing set done on a 4.0 is like $1200
<Tonymac32>
tools and parts are $500, then sell the tools
* TRS-80
still needs to do the old "buy, do job and then sell" gimmick on some specialty tool for '99 F-350 broken spark plug
<Tonymac32>
(assuming you have a cherry picker or a swingset and come-a-long
<Tonymac32>
ah the triton spark plugs
<TRS-80>
I think so. The ones with like only 4 threads in the aluminum heads
<TRS-80>
not the long ones that get stuck, that was right after
<Tonymac32>
I'm contemplating whether or not to start buying $500 rangers and explorers and fixing tyhe timing sets and selling them
<Tonymac32>
a couple days work on each one
<Tonymac32>
esp. since the new Ranger is so... ugh
<TRS-80>
is the job market that bad for EEs? Or you just enjoy working with your hands more? Or just an extra thing?
<Tonymac32>
I used to go home to my mothers and split wood by hand
<TRS-80>
good man
<Tonymac32>
I like digging into things, smashing things, you know, working
<TRS-80>
exercise. perish the thought fat Murrica
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<Tonymac32>
if we banned corn syrup this nation would lose 10-15 lbs on average
<TRS-80>
some state where some primary is going on blocks your path
<Tonymac32>
but I don't like government enough to allow that kind of power
<TRS-80>
touche
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<Tonymac32>
the types of food consumed are a big part of it, not just the quantity or the activity of the consumer
<Tonymac32>
but, anyone who cares knows, so there you go
<TRS-80>
I altually got fairly deep into nutrition, weight lifting, etc. some years ago and you are absolutely correct. Diet is 90% of it.
<TRS-80>
exactly, all the info is out there, for anyone who cares to learn the truth
<TRS-80>
most fatties just making excuses
<Tonymac32>
I cut out most of my fructose intake (fruit aside), and also most processed sugar
<Tonymac32>
andrevallestero[ is the building working for you, or do you have any other questions?
<TRS-80>
I am turning back into a bit of a fatty myself more recently, need to get back into good habits again
* TRS-80
after finishing chocolate cake after dinner, reaches now for bag of wasabi almonds
<TRS-80>
but not today :D
<sarnold>
oh man chocolate cake..
<andrevallestero[>
Tonymac32: Building is not working for me
<Tonymac32>
well, all I can really say I guess is go back to a clean state and gradually adjust things, large patchsets especially can get evil if manipulated
<andrevallestero[>
Alot of patches don't apply cleanly
<andrevallestero[>
I'll have to do alot of manual work
<Tonymac32>
yeah, looks like it
<TRS-80>
andrevallestero[: Why not just use Armbian?
<TRS-80>
(that seems like a lot of work)
<andrevallestero[>
I prefer Manjaro (well really, I only care about AUR, my actual distro preference is Alpine). Manjaro ARM is currently the most popular distro for the Pinebook Pro so it'd be nice if I could get the VPU working for everyone
<andrevallestero[>
Also, if I could make this work, I can work towards upstreaming it to mainline and we could work towards completing Hantro VPU for the rk3399
<lanefu>
andrevallestero[: are you cross-compiling the kernel?
<Tonymac32>
right. The Hantro driver upstream is moving, but it seems to be a forward and back situation
<andrevallestero[>
No, I'm compiling natively
<lanefu>
or building from arm
<andrevallestero[>
Compiling on my pbp (taking about 2hrs for a clean compile)
<lanefu>
andrevallestero[: what kernel version are you patching against
<andrevallestero[>
Manjaro ARM is on 5.5
<lanefu>
k, I think we're building against 5.4
<andrevallestero[>
But `drivers/staging/media/hantro` is moving very slowly so 5.5 is pretty similar to 5.4
<lanefu>
is there anything in the manjaro kernel that's working that isnt in the armbian 5.4 kernel?
<andrevallestero[>
The Manjaro kernel is pretty much mainline except for the dts
<brittman914>
surround sound just isn't surround sound without DTS
<lanefu>
lol
<TRS-80>
brittman914: lol
<lanefu>
andrevallestero[: IMHO why not start with just trying to build 5.4 kernel with patches and get that working.. then work your way up to 5.5
<lanefu>
well sounds like you just need to keep fighting then
<lanefu>
I hope you win
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<andrevallestero[>
Yeah, me too
<archetech>
I wish that effort would work on rock64 I like manjaro too but its not a correct setup for compiling
<archetech>
I get segfaults on arch stuff armbian/ayufan none
* lanefu
always settles for armbian
<archetech>
getting a rockpro64 or a rpi4b not sure when
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<lanefu>
gonna get a rpi4b and run Noobs?
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<lanefu>
i mean i'll give them credit.. rpi4 is pretty beastly.. previously there were a lot of SBCs that beat teh pants off of rpi3, but rpi4 is competitive
<lanefu>
rockpro64 just kinda looks a little ugly
<lanefu>
have you looked at OrangePi 4
<archetech>
opi4 is a contender
<archetech>
brb
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<lanefu>
the opi stuff is pretty decent quality... and they give back to armbian a bit
<lanefu>
they're good about giving samples to devs n stuff
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<archetech>
glad to hear some do that
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<andrevallestero[>
archetech: Maybe check out the HardRock64. It's Pine64's new SBC. Uses an Rk3399 and starts at USD$35
<archetech>
ok now I can build
<archetech>
andrevallestero[, yeah ive read about it be 2months I bet to get it
<andrevallestero[>
Yeah
<archetech>
I bet the new 3588 be annouceed soon too
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<lanefu>
Werner__: any luck fixing the #armbian-commits ?
<lanefu>
Also... good morning
<IgorPec>
hej
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<Werner__>
lanefu, you mean adding Twitter? Not really...
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<lanefu>
Werner__: no.... as in armbian-commits isn't getting gituhb ubdates anymore
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<Werner__>
Odd. Ill take a look
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<Werner__>
lanefu, Fixed. No idea what it caused to stop though...
<lanefu>
sweet thanks dude
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<ashthespy>
Noob question - On the scale of release-magic-smoke to why-no-boot, how dangerous is it to play with u-boot?
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<lanefu>
ashthespy: probably not too bad unless you're tweaking voltages
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<ashthespy>
nah - just tweaking another board for mine..
<lanefu>
just believe in yourself and you'll be fine
<TRS-80>
lol
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<TRS-80>
looks like armbian-commits is working again, nice
<TRS-80>
Werner__: I assume this was your doing? :)
* ashthespy
is going on a u-boot adventure!
<Werner__>
Yeah, though I do not know what this caused :/
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<ashthespy>
so close, yet so far. Before I head of to hone my googlefoo skils - anyone know how to select the right boot device via config options in uboot?
<ashthespy>
`BOOT_TARGET_DEVICES` okay! :-)
<TRS-80>
Werner__: I love it when things fix themselves. XD
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* TRS-80
objects to any variations of the verb "Google" as a replacement for "searching the Internet"
* lanefu
makes a xerox of this transcript
* ashthespy
's/google/evil/'
* lanefu
`s/evil/evilcorp/`
<TRS-80>
lanefu: I been using your experience of having a power problem (was it last night?) as an example like "even someone as experienced as @lanefu got bit recently by power issues" in some forum discussions, if that is alright with you :)
<TRS-80>
as an example why we keep harping on it
<lanefu>
yep yep
<lanefu>
my shame is my glory
<lanefu>
be sure you quote teh part where i say "$!#$*!#^$&!#^$^!#$!#$"
<ashthespy>
More Noobish questions - who decides if you get a entry under `/u-boot/boards/xxx/yyy`?
<lanefu>
just needs to make sense and match existing patterns
<lanefu>
if there's a maintainer for that board.. then getting their feedback is good
<ashthespy>
I see come examples where a board is just defined instead directly with just `configs/blah_blah_defconfig` and `arch/arm/dts/blah_blah`
<lanefu>
yeah i'd need to see files or a pr to be more helpful
<ashthespy>
Second..
<lanefu>
generally more abstraction is better.... there's going to be older styles, and less elegant configs that exist
<ashthespy>
I don't get where `TARGET_EVB_RK3399` is defined such that it enabled with `CONFIG_ROCKCHIP_RK3399` - my grepping skills led me to `arch/arm/dts/Makefile` and `arch/arm/mach-rockchip/Makefile`, both of which don't seem to enlighten me any more..
<ashthespy>
^robmur01
<ashthespy>
robmur01 ^^
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<ashthespy>
Unless I miss something in `arch/arm/mach-rockchip/Kconfig`
<ashthespy>
`TPL_ROCKCHIP_COMMON_BOARD`?
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: OK now I see the tiny little links, I did not at first, and his other posts seem more ontopic (At least at first scan)
<robmur01>
ashthespy: ah, I imagine because for RK3399 it's a "choice" config, thus there has to be some implicit default selection
<IgorPec>
yes i edit one, then i notice its in all his posts
<TRS-80>
Yes that is why I did not see it at first. But I noticed the content of that post was weird about msconfig, that is what stood out to me at first.
<ashthespy>
robmur01 ahh - I wouldn't have seen that for a long time.. thanks!
<IgorPec>
yeah, that one is probably scammer too
<IgorPec>
TRS-80: just to be aware of this scam method that gets by filters
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: Yes I have seen it before, coming back later to edit. I think we make some rule to at least moderate if post contains link until x posts. But maybe creates too much moderation.
<IgorPec>
posts are altered afterward !
<IgorPec>
the next day. which is why they pass
<TRS-80>
I think make announcement, ask users for help, show examples as this stuff could be anyuwhere
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<IgorPec>
there is little to do. i will clean them out now. its just for you to be able to recognize next time if it happens
<TRS-80>
yes I have seen before, but thanks for heads up
<ashthespy>
robmur01 - another dead end - I can't seem to get my `boards_u_boot.dtsi`'s `u-boot,spl-boot-order` to take priority over the `EVB_RK3308`'s ordering.. :-(
<IgorPec>
TRS-80: yeah, there are a few
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: If I understand Admin CP settings correctly, "Flag as Apammer" is set not to delete all their posts, I guess we have to do each manually, correct?
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<IgorPec>
TRS-80: yes, better manually then deleting something we dont' want to delete
<TRS-80>
I just flag jhoney as spammer, it Hide all his posts (only 5, pretty sure all spam but I will double check)
<IgorPec>
hide is good enough
<TRS-80>
maybe later I look for some outbound link tools in Admin CP
<IgorPec>
yep
<IgorPec>
thanks
<IgorPec>
also perhaps add a note to our resources for moderators
<TRS-80>
yeah
<ashthespy>
IgorPec - have you considered Discourse for the forums?
<TRS-80>
some manual clean up in addition, for ex. where they been quoted by other users (on accident or whatever)
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<TRS-80>
IgorPec: now I am making a list of all these links, searching forum for each... work grows exponentially but I am not complaining, just saying :)
<TRS-80>
sneaky little effers... :)
<IgorPec>
yes, bastards :) how many more?
<TRS-80>
well so far I am only on my third, but I take time to make sure I am not hiding anything useful (so far not) etc...
<TRS-80>
I check each of their posts (so far usually about 5 seems to be the pattern)
<TRS-80>
check rest of thread to also remove spam links from legitimate user who may have quoted the spammer (in ignorance / on accident) etc.
<TRS-80>
I do a nice write up later with examples
<IgorPec>
Thanks. I can focus back to my display problems :)
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<TRS-80>
Yeah don't worry. I will autistically persecute to the fullest extent.
<IgorPec>
:)
<lanefu>
IgorPec: still working on the A64 Issues?
<IgorPec>
lanefu: both notebooks are broken, other troubles seems fixed
<lanefu>
Pinebook? and what's the other notebook?
<IgorPec>
Teres
<lanefu>
aren't they too slow to be usable anyway?
<IgorPec>
they both share the same problem, changed driver got upstreamed, our patches become obsolete
<lanefu>
oh bummer
<lanefu>
should we just build those with an older kernel then?
<IgorPec>
for light desktop, terminal work, IRC. just fine
<IgorPec>
yes, that's a backup plan
<IgorPec>
i will wait if Jernej and Icenovy can help, otherwise this is the only option left
<IgorPec>
but the problem will be for those who will upgrade ... :)
<lanefu>
as in apt upgrade the armbian release?
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<IgorPec>
yep, after we send packages to the repo ... updated kernel will not have proper driver for lcd panel
<IgorPec>
:(
<lanefu>
Ohhh yeah thats no good
<lanefu>
...if we do the older kernel backup plan, will it still download the wrong one?
<IgorPec>
yes. we can only (manually) prevent upgrade on new images
<IgorPec>
so its quite nasty running a distribution and secure that everything works
<lanefu>
ohhh yeah that sucks.
<IgorPec>
we will come up with something.
<IgorPec>
i am not extremly worried yet
<lanefu>
okay. I'll stay optimistic
<TRS-80>
lanefu: Example using org-mode to make bulleted, indented (collapsible) list of which searches for spam url begat which other urls, which I can then arrange alphabetically in sub-list, and include check boxes to work my way down the list... https://bpaste.net/QM7A ;)
<lanefu>
thats pretty cool
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<ashthespy>
Anyone who understands the Rockchip boot Flow 1 and Flow 2 parts on? :-S
<TRS-80>
afternoon, c0rnelius! :)
<c0rnelius>
Hi, TRS-80. How you been?
<TRS-80>
Good man. Yourself?
<c0rnelius>
I'm doing ok. Nothing amazing 😉
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: I think you probably stopped editing out spam links already, but in case you did not, please don't do in future as it interferes with recursive searching for additional results... :)
<TRS-80>
(and also, determining if people are spammers)
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<sputnik>
evening
<sputnik>
TRS-80: got your msg on the forum, thanks, mate!
<TRS-80>
sputnik: Cheers! :)
* TRS-80
goes back to recursive searching of spam links like some sort of human lisp machine
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<TRS-80>
IgorPec (or lanefu) does forum software automatically prepend "https://" or "https://www." to posted links?
<lanefu>
Not sure i havent noticed
<TRS-80>
eh, nvm, I am having to massage the urls in various ways, depending how close they are to other keywords
<TRS-80>
OK Guise, let me know if you find any more.
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<IgorPec>
trs-80: ftp-bin2fex is a human ... but acts like spammer sometimes :) BTW. Thanks!!
<TRS-80>
yes I figured he looks like some young person, or...
<IgorPec>
no idea, but i had an interaction once
<TRS-80>
I read his history, what a mess lol
<IgorPec>
i didn't read and i won't
<IgorPec>
:)
<c0rnelius>
ha
<TRS-80>
anyway, I will work on a write up what I learned, but in the meantime let's not edit out the links as it makes it harder to "get all of them" by recursively searching
<IgorPec>
so we hosted quite a selection of spammers even we have resaonoble good forum sw
<IgorPec>
i will not touch anything, ok
<TRS-80>
yes these are more sneaky and come back days (I have even seen weeks (!)) later and edit posts
<TRS-80>
I do not see anything in Admin CP about moderating edits, so...
<TRS-80>
not sure what we can do other than manually look out