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<lanefu> yo
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<archetech> o/
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<archetech> if u got a cheap off brand sdcard to try some time on the rock let me know lanefu
<archetech> experiment in thoery of good sdcards dont get hit by the bug mine does even tho its a snadisk ultra
<archetech> san
<archetech> another way of saying its a known voltage issue on the curent u-boot
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<lanefu> IgorPec: hi!
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<IgorPec> lanefu
<lanefu> hi
<lanefu> are we ready to cut a branch?
<IgorPec> yes
<IgorPec> we can start, i already build kernels
<lanefu> awesome. i'll make new branch,, and work on reelease notes
<lanefu> need to figure out whre to document known issues
<IgorPec> good questions. we can open one jira and put everything there or open a new jira for each one
<lanefu> okay good idea
<lanefu> gonna call branch v20.02-final
<lanefu> sound okay?
<IgorPec> IMO just 20.02
<IgorPec> v20.02
<lanefu> okay
<lanefu> will do
<lanefu> i guess that makes more sense if we have to do any fixes
<IgorPec> if we will need to fix something - and sure there will be something - we make 20.02.1
<IgorPec> otherwise its next 20.05-trunk
<IgorPec> i can also start image making / uploading process. it will take few hours
<IgorPec> btw. my workstation broke down today - Ubuntu 20.04 - keyboard does not work in Chromium and Hexchat anymore :)
<lanefu> haha man what a pain
<IgorPec> crazy
<lanefu> what do you use as a workstation
<IgorPec> hw?
<lanefu> yeah
<IgorPec> ryzen 3950x 32gigz 512Gb Nvme some entry level nvidia card and 43" monitor
<lanefu> nice!
<lanefu> I bet its nicer.. when the keyboard works
<IgorPec> haha, yeah. it would be better make my own way then going for ubuntu 20.04
<mrueg> sorry, meant kernel 5.4
<IgorPec> afaik it works to some degree, but problems are expected with most recent kernels
<lanefu> mrueg: its subjective.. its been working for me
<IgorPec> this problems is related to SPI and if you update SPI things starts to work, right?
<lanefu> IgorPec: i don't thikn its that... archetec wiped his SPI.. we literaly have the same v2 revision at it works for me
<lanefu> we're down to like SD card voltage tolerance i thnk
<lanefu> ironically i think i'm also using same sd as him
<mrueg> thanks, I might give it a shot in the next days :)
<IgorPec> ahaa
<lanefu> mrueg: cool yeah we'll have official release images published soon
<mrueg> looking forward to it, I need to do something with those boards. I end up buying them but the only thing they collect is dust. :(
<IgorPec> you didn't buy them from us :)
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<mrueg> yep, that was more an observation on my side, that I should do something with them. and if it's only testing a release. :)
<lanefu> mrueg: does this make you feel better? https://photos.app.goo.gl/XP6YGw255RrZCNxx7
<mrueg> lanefu: a little bit :D
<mrueg> I put mine in a cabinet, so I don't have to see them ;)
<lanefu> IgorPec: okay made Known issues list at bottom https://github.com/armbian/build/releases/tag/untagged-6511ae15a0b6b968694d
<IgorPec> yes, that way looks ok. Have you updated the lisst of tasks ... i think we have more of them since first RC?
<lanefu> :( noooo i probably need to go look at merge history now and create more tasks lol
<IgorPec> yes, that would be nice. how can we share this work?
<lanefu> I guess this would be the stuff to add https://github.com/armbian/build/compare/v20.02-rc0...v20.02
<lanefu> start with creating issues for your commits in that list
<IgorPec> fixed headers is important, perhaps USB3 fix on rockchip, enabled MiQi ... the rest can stay as is
<lanefu> i may be a bit confused
<IgorPec> i mean we don't need to record everything
<lanefu> Ahh good point
<IgorPec> in this release doc
<IgorPec> add those three and case closed. probably some of those are already in the jira
<lanefu> okay you do teh MiQi one and i'll do the other 2
<IgorPec> ok
<tonymac32> Igor has the HW down. ;-) I'm using an i7-3770 (OC'd 4.1 GHz all cores), 16 GiB RAM and 256 GB nvme with no graphics card (integrated gfx, but I SSH into it from my gaming machine)
<IgorPec> my gear works very nice .. when it works :)
<tonymac32> I was working 12 hours/day for the last 14 for the day job. :-/, now I'm trying to catch up here
<IgorPec> i will need to cook my own kernel and use clean Debian userland
<IgorPec> OMG :)
* tonymac32 wonders if anyone here knows how to make their own kernel
<tonymac32> :-D
<lanefu> lol
<lanefu> tonymac32: man you make me feel super lazy
<tonymac32> I'm trying to clean up my router closet, It is, well, embarrassing, and I have a new cluster to install
<tonymac32> lanefu I slept until 11:00 yesterday, so...
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<lanefu> i think you'll have to sleep in more than once to make up for that
<IgorPec> sleeping is nice. i had a nap two hours ago for two hour :)
<tonymac32> haha
<IgorPec> its a release day, one has to be ready
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<tonymac32> yeah
<lanefu> IgorPec: okay release notes updated
* tonymac32 notes that, as per usual, upstream RK3288 was the easiest thing he had to deal with this round
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<tonymac32> If only a solidly built FriendlyARM or Libre board had been an RK3288 board... That thing rips and is overclockable
<lanefu> if only librecomputer would make stuff again
<lanefu> let me know if you all seen anything there that looks like we should document as a known issue
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<IgorPec> teres a64 keyboard doesn't work for me, no other testings so far
<IgorPec> udoo usb doesn't work
<IgorPec> that's it from here
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<lanefu> Sooo is Udoo supported or not? https://www.armbian.com/download/?tx_maker=udoo
<IgorPec> no, then skip it
<IgorPec> just teres fate is uknown
<IgorPec> "Teres testing was not complete"
<lanefu> lol
<lanefu> i'll make a known issuse about the teres keyboard
<lanefu> IgorPec: so will we keep old images for Teres?
<IgorPec> only 5.3.y images are working
<IgorPec> which means the one on /_old
<IgorPec> i didn't have enough time to dig in more ... perhaps only the boot loader is broken. this is my suspicious
<IgorPec> but also its possible that my device got some troubles
<IgorPec> Just add a note under known issues, nothing more can be done at this point
<lanefu> yup added
<lanefu> what else should we look at, or do for the release
<IgorPec> find out what we did wrong
<IgorPec> and write it down
<IgorPec> to have less stress in 20.05
<lanefu> okay I'll make an "Areas of Improvement" section in our realease process doc
<lanefu> as for as releasing.. I'll add a friendly paragaph at top of release notes and publish on github
<lanefu> then i guess you can twitter when the images are up
<lanefu> are there any particular enhancements or fixes that you're extra happy about? worth highlighting?
<IgorPec> improved release cycle
<lanefu> haha yeah the theme of this release is just.. 'doing a release'
<tonymac32> lanefu libre slowed down, but to my knowledge they are still working on things.
<lanefu> yeah pretty silent.. i wonder if the guy that made the images is gone
<IgorPec> lanefu: let me do some more thinking
<IgorPec> summing lots of stuff into few words is hard
<lanefu> indeed.. take your time
<tonymac32> no, but my impression is similar to Armbian: only so many people to cover all the bases, and I think the Firefly relationship didn't go as well as hoped
<lanefu> ohhh
<lanefu> tonymac32: yeah i saw there was some drama there.. I didn't really understand how close they were
<tonymac32> the Renegade and renegade elite are both Firefly engineering
<lanefu> right.. and then there was some kid from firefly that really hated them that was posting in the dev forum
<lanefu> wrote an ranting opus that we didnt respond to :P
<tonymac32> I like the "La Frite" board, especially the bootloader bits, and the fact it has a "front" and "back", unlike standard Pi format
<lanefu> yeah is la frite available post-kickstarter
<lanefu> that where they went for u-boot uefi?
<tonymac32> I think so, it loads up Armbian images with no issues, and has a nice boot menu to go with it and a built-in OS you can launch.
<tonymac32> there's some issue here and there, for example it thinks it can do 4k sometimes (it isn't supposed to)
<tonymac32> sometimes it *does* 4k, but it's not reliable
<tonymac32> it's an S905x with some features turned off
<lanefu> haha
<lanefu> man.. 4k is hard
<lanefu> so hard
<tonymac32> Look at an H3, then an H2+
<tonymac32> it's about the same feature set difference
<IgorPec> "Armbian 20.02 Improved stability, many new features, new boards. Check out release details." ? ;)
<tonymac32> +1
<lanefu> yeah works for me
<lanefu> just wondering if there's any noteworthy things i should highlight in the release details
<IgorPec> it depends from the aspect and area
<IgorPec> some fixes are important for build process, some only for rockchip 3399
<IgorPec> "Armbian is better than ever!"
<lanefu> okay. lots of RK3399 fixes including prelimary OPI4 support
<IgorPec> but this is / should be in the release document. How to zip this and set out in a twitter lenght? :)
<lanefu> yeah. okay let me put a little something in the relase document, then i'll give you something for twitter
<lanefu> i think i need coffee
<IgorPec> yeah, get on. we are still hours away
<lanefu> IgorPec: I asked my buddy who travels to eastern europe and russia frequently about Slovenia... he said "It's a beautiful Mediterranean country with mountains and a favorable exchange rate."
<IgorPec> haha, true. you should all come here to a vacations :)
<lanefu> i just have to learn how to take vacations now
<tonymac32> 1st annual Armbian convention :)
<tonymac32> and yeah
<lanefu> that would be really cool
<lanefu> i mean it would probably just be 4 guys in a bar
<lanefu> but who knows
<IgorPec> we can also meet at balcan conference?
<IgorPec> belgrade
<lanefu> what conference is that?
<IgorPec> linux, security
<IgorPec> hacking
<lanefu> uhhh yeah that sounds cool!
<lanefu> i should probably get a passport eh
<lanefu> are most of hte talks in english?
<IgorPec> yes, 90%
<lanefu> cool
<lanefu> will people hate me because i'm american?
<IgorPec> its very international conference
<lanefu> lol
<IgorPec> the bridge you took down was rebuild :)
<IgorPec> anyway, i plan to spent a week there and will also bring my family with me
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<lanefu> wow local fisherman saved 9 people
<splosh2> Hi, I've tried to find documentation on my own but were unable to so do. Are the dev kernels (such as https://github.com/armbian/build/tree/master/patch/kernel/rockchip64-dev) provided in some binary form or do you need to compile those?
<IgorPec> beta.armbian.com
<IgorPec> lanefu: something from the release document - sum links to the forum topic and facebook groups where this info can / shall be posted
<splosh2> Ok, thanks... So I point apt there looking at the directory structure?
<IgorPec> you can download manually - or add this repository and use apt-get to download kernel
<splosh2> I see, I'll give it a try to and see if I can figure out it. Thanks
<IgorPec> note that DTB is packed separate ... you need both: linux-image-XXX and linux-dtb-XXX
<splosh2> I see, thanks for the heads up
<lanefu> didnt have as much to say as I thought lol
<IgorPec> its alright. I will try to improve but ... otherwise
<HerculeP> hmm, armbian20-02.0 rc1 OdroidC2 .. desktop boots but hangs trying to invoke DT, also no connect to router via eth0 :(
<IgorPec> we test C2 ... hmm
<HerculeP> the only errors I saw: pp*3..7 "not found" 1st login as root/1234 was ok
<IgorPec> which image exactly?
<splosh2> Hmm... 5.5 doesn't seem to be available yet for rockpro64
<IgorPec> splash2: then you have to build on your own, no other choice
<HerculeP> 5.4.14
<splosh2> IgorPec: So it seems, I'm seeing a PCIe crash which might have been fixed in 5.5. This one to be more specific https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/ca01e7987463e8675f223c366e262e82f633481a
<HerculeP> IgorPec: bionic-current-5.4.14
<IgorPec> you can also propose / port a patch to current kernel
<splosh2> Any idea when -dev kernels gets built? I'm not very confident in compiling my own kernel
<IgorPec> splash2: in a stable repository it will be on tomorrow
<HerculeP> weechat doesnt allow c&p., sorry
<IgorPec> since we are just making out a release and rebuilind all kernels ... its on 60% of this process right now
<lanefu> splosh2: its pretty easy with armbian build engine https://github.com/armbian/build
<IgorPec> herculeP: ok, will try it on my board.
<HerculeP> ok, I will try stable later, just wanted to let you know
<IgorPec> 5.4.y on Odroid C2 must work ok
<splosh2> lanefu: Thanks although given my hardware it'll probably be faster to wait for the repo to get updated
<HerculeP> just no Desktop, no ethernet, trying debian server next ...
<IgorPec> no, they are the same
<IgorPec> herculeP: usually if one doesn't work, others doesn't work as well. userspace is the cheap component
<HerculeP> 3.14 worked well btw
<IgorPec> 3.14.y is EOL
<HerculeP> thats why I wanted to switch ;)
<splosh2> Also, I'm not sure if its intended behaviour but console output stops (kernel output) during booting on RockPro64
<IgorPec> its 10 years old kernel nobody care for
<IgorPec> or 5 years :) whatever
<HerculeP> I'll chack "stable" next week, thanks for your work btw!
<HerculeP> check*
<IgorPec> wait 10 minutes. i am about to check it right now
<HerculeP> ak, ok
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<IgorPec> have troubles, doesn't boot from first try ... and very limited way of diagnising due to working with laptop. will take longer
<HerculeP> np, thx for trying
<tonymac32> HerculeP C2 you say?
<HerculeP> yup
<HerculeP> via 16G SD card
<tonymac32> ok let me see. I got hung up on RK3328 and didn't get to the Amlogic boards, not sure who else might have looked at them
<IgorPec> try todays builds https://dl.armbian.com/odroidc2/archive/
<HerculeP> sure, will do ..
<tonymac32> ok
<IgorPec> fuck. previous RC build work, todays doesn't :(
<tonymac32> hmmm all of the patches are happy...
<IgorPec> it must be some trouble with building or burning
<IgorPec> there are no changes at code, i doubt there is a kernel problem 5.14 - 5.20
<IgorPec> 5.4.14 - 5.4.20
<tonymac32> maybe, I had an issue getting Le Potato to come up on RC1 the first time I tried it, but thought I'd somehow messed it up. I'll dig around
<tonymac32> similar to the XU4 bug, where only 1/2 of my boards cared about it
<IgorPec> XU4 with 5.4.y ... with latest patches?
<tonymac32> remember I had the boot hang going on with XU4, you told me to build latest, and it fixed it
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<lanefu> i'll test on rock64v2 and MC1
<tonymac32> C2 located, remembering how nice this board was built, hopes for a C3
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<tonymac32> some of the updates to my machine must have included USB3 drivers, my SD cards are flashing at 70 MB/s now, old was only 50 or so
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<IgorPec> 0.199097] stmmaceth c9410000.ethernet: Wake-Up On Lan supported
<IgorPec> [ 10.210656] stmmaceth c9410000.ethernet: Ring mode enabled
<IgorPec> [ 10.205162] stmmaceth c9410000.ethernet: Normal descriptors
<IgorPec> [ 10.216088] stmmaceth c9410000.ethernet: Enable RX Mitigation via HW Watchdog Timer
<IgorPec> [ 10.223848] libphy: stmmac: probed
<IgorPec> [ 10.227995] meson-saradc c1108680.adc: failed to get core clk
<IgorPec> [ 10.234578] meson-spifc c1108c80.spi: missing clock
<IgorPec> [ 10.237903] libphy: mdio_mux: probed
<IgorPec> Begin: Loading essential drivers ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Running /script[ 10.248213] libphy: mdio_mux: probed
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<IgorPec> [ 10.250738] /soc/usb@c9000000: Failed to get clk index: 0 ret: -517
<IgorPec> [ 10.257385] meson-gx-mmc d0074000.mmc: allocated mmc-pwrseq
<IgorPec> [ 10.262812] meson-saradc c1108680.adc: failed to get core clk
<IgorPec> [ 10.269058] meson-spifc c1108c80.spi: missing clock
<IgorPec> s/init-premount ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Mounting root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Waiting for root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
<IgorPec> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
<IgorPec> 8.024764] Hardware name: Libre Computer Board AML-S805X-AC (DT)
<tonymac32> wow, my C2 is doing literally nothing.
<HerculeP> downloaded, unpacking currently ..
<IgorPec> its broken, it doesn't find rootfs
<HerculeP> hmm
<tonymac32> Deja vu
<tonymac32> but I can't remember
<HerculeP> will try anyways ;)
<IgorPec> i think i know where is the problem ... need to check
<tonymac32> when we stuck N2 in there maybe?
<IgorPec> tony: can you build one image from sources and try if it works
<tonymac32> building now ;)
<IgorPec> is the problem
<tonymac32> we need to explicitly add the fdt to the conf file?
<IgorPec> just for few
<IgorPec> but if you don't unset this variable ... it gets messy
<tonymac32> I don't know that I would mind setting it for all just for consistency
<IgorPec> its build-all problem
<IgorPec> fixed
<IgorPec> restarted image building process :)
<lanefu> cherry-picked fix into v20.02
<IgorPec> HerculeP: thanks for helping us find a nasty bug :)
* lanefu claps for HerculeP
<HerculeP> hehe, np, got two oroidC2 waiting for decent images ;)
<lanefu> HerculeP: what image do you need?
<splosh2> fwiw, 5.5 doesn't seem to fix the kernel panics :(
<HerculeP> any debian or ubuntu based /w desktop (preferable MATE)
<lanefu> k i'll kick off a build on my machine shortly
<HerculeP> cool
<lanefu> official armbian desktop is XFCE.. you have to do mate by hand afterwards
<HerculeP> np
<lanefu> (i do need to make a mate script -- use it too)
<HerculeP> xfce is ok too
<HerculeP> btw, on my dell 4k monitor the default resolution is so small that I hardly can read it, is there a config setting to force 1920x1068 or whatever on 1st boot?
<HerculeP> resolution=high ->characters =small*
<lanefu> easiest is probably to ssh into it and then modify /boot/boot.ini (if it uses boot.ini)
<tonymac32> I have heartbeat, waiting
<HerculeP> didnt know about boot.ini, will try
<lanefu> man i've had such a pain with 4k... i'm using an active HDMI -> display port adapter thats supposed to do all the right stuff. but i can't do 2160p@30hz
<lanefu> I'm stress testing rock64 with fresh v20.02 image.. trucking along
<tonymac32> ok, my HDMI cable is worn out, I'll have to get another, I had to jiggle it to get my screen to come up
<lanefu> lol man
<tonymac32> probably not rated for 5000 plug cycles
<tonymac32> serial is not giving any boot status until login, I'll poke at that later, not critical
<tonymac32> ...did we add the lima work-around to Meson64?
<lanefu> Tonymac32: u-boot serial is weird its 1500000 baud
<IgorPec> tonymac32: not sure
<lanefu> seriously
<tonymac32> serial is 1500000 for rockchip, not for amlogic
<tonymac32> I'm not gettting desktop
<HerculeP> a typo probably
<tonymac32> betting it's lima
<HerculeP> 115000 is common
<HerculeP> IIRC
<tonymac32> right, Rockchip is 1.5 Mbps
<tonymac32> 115200
<tonymac32> is common
<lanefu> Tonymac32: my bad i thought you were on a rock for some reason
<HerculeP> yeah long log that I used it
<IgorPec> tonymac32: board boots up but desktop fails?
<tonymac32> on amlogic I get u-boot, then silence, then login prompt
<HerculeP> ago*
<tonymac32> Igorpec yep, just like the Rock64 was
<tonymac32> it is a Mali 450
<IgorPec> should fix this problem
<IgorPec> tonymac32: self built amlogic=
<IgorPec> ?
<tonymac32> build finished 10 minutes ago
<lanefu> IgorPec: do i need to cherry-pick 59d008816c50f39dc58ad8513989b7de8aef9edd
<tonymac32> EndSection
<tonymac32> Identifier "Default Device"
<tonymac32> Section "Device"
<tonymac32> EndSection
<tonymac32> Option "AccelMethod" "none"
<tonymac32> it's in there...
<IgorPec> lanefu: no
<IgorPec> remove all section "device"
<tonymac32> works
<IgorPec> great!
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<splosh2> thanks for your help time
<lanefu> HerculeP: i accidentally interrupted the build. gonna take a little it
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<HerculeP> np, got plenty of time
<lanefu> IgorPec: did we standardize on Chrony earlier, or should we mention that in the release notes
<IgorPec> dunno, check if it was mentioned in previous relese log
<lanefu> wasnt in log.. looks like it was merged in sept.... so i wont announce it... https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/1515
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<lanefu> archetech: soooooo my rock64 is also using a Sandisk ultra
<lanefu> in fact i've now used 2 different sandisk ultras lol
<tonymac32> not all sandisk ultras are created equal
<tonymac32> U1 C10 A1 XC1
<tonymac32> etc
<tonymac32> etc
<tonymac32> etc
<HerculeP> k, will give feedback soon..
<archetech> mine says HC-I
<lanefu> both were HC-1, one of them is A1
<lanefu> the A1 is like an additional makring
<lanefu> so anything on the bottom left besides (10)
<archetech> c10
<lanefu> do you have a non c10?
<archetech> I have a onn 16 and a 32G A1
<lanefu> and you tried the A1?
<archetech> no just the one
<lanefu> I'm sure you know where this conversation is going
<archetech> yeah I even if some cards work its still not correct fix swapping brands is a band aid
<lanefu> its a good bandaid
<lanefu> archetech: also fail on the emmc.. turns out libre computer's emmc chips are way different
<archetech> right theirs soem varience that needs the uboot adjusted
<archetech> or dtb
<lanefu> no i mean physically different
<lanefu> no fit
<archetech> overlay gah who knows all this arm boot garbage im not liking its complexity
<lanefu> ha thats why i like it i think
<lanefu> remember the early days of linux
<lanefu> and like just making it work was a huge part of linux
<lanefu> that same thrill lives on with SBCs
<fysa> slack with linux 1.2.6 was never this painful :)
* archetech chuckles
<lanefu> lol
<lanefu> i tihnk i started on kernel 1.8
<archetech> I watched arch-arm irc for 3 yrs thought it was safe to buy a 64 bit sbc I was wrong
<lanefu> cuz soon after i had gotten into linux, ip masq came out and that was a big deal so i built a box... which was kernel 2.0
<fysa> I setup linux on an 'old PC" (386 maybe ..) because ISA modem cards were cheap and Zorro modem cards for the Amiga were expensive as hell
<lanefu> its safe. just not safe to buy just one
<fysa> so I setup a null-modem network between the two .. so people could call into my BBS, they would hit the linux login and "bbs" would bring them to C-Net on the Amiga. :)
<lanefu> haha thats awesome
<fysa> or they could login as a linux user and get SLIP/PPPD for 14.4k internet :)
<lanefu> i ran a bbs but it was on wildcat 4.x
<lanefu> so not as dope
<fysa> right around the same time
<fysa> I remember wildcat
<archetech> I used gopher on local univ net 14.4
<fysa> nice
<IgorPec> slack started with .9 kernel
<fysa> I had a dedicated 28.8k line to the ISP
<fysa> and resold 6x 14.4k lines for access ;)
<lanefu> haha
<fysa> and a usenet autodownloader would run when nobody was on
<lanefu> yeah i bought a 850 meg hardrive frmo a gopher site
<fysa> Micropolis
<HerculeP> lanefu: img booted, ssh via eth successfull, still no desktop :( -just a blinking cursor in the top left screen corner
<fysa> anyway, sorry for the offtopic
<lanefu> HerculeP: scroll up and do the fix that Igor had tony do earlier
<IgorPec> lanefu: that fix should be implemented in the trunk
<HerculeP> oh, missed that one
<lanefu> IgorPec: yeah.. but you told me not to cherry-pick it :)
<IgorPec> ahaa :(
<IgorPec> i must look into the wrong commit then
<IgorPec> sry
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<HerculeP> hmm, what file must be edited, I only found some "unset..." (cryptic to me)
<HerculeP> <- just a dumb user
<tonymac32> # nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/01-armbian-defaults.conf
<IgorPec> without # :)
<tonymac32> :P
<lanefu> its best when it takes 3 people to help
<lanefu> lol
<archetech> thats arm
<lanefu> it should be arms
<archetech> and legs
<HerculeP> okaaay, file opened in nano, delete every line containig "device"?
<archetech> armbian has the builder app I like that too bad the uboot info is as tony says "sprayed" all over the interwebs and github
<archetech> arm nneds a crew to gather it all up and organize it under one site\
<tonymac32> nah, ARM has nothing to do with boot processes
<tonymac32> that falls on each individual vendor who uses their IP
<HerculeP> nvm, deleting whole section now
<lanefu> Linaro is the organization we should be yelling at it
<tonymac32> I don't believe in centralizing Linux authority
<tonymac32> these hardwares are made by private entities, we decide to use them
<tonymac32> if they suck too much, we don't use them
* lanefu shifts blame inward
<tonymac32> rofl
<tonymac32> u-boot is a bit of a messy monster, so that's part 1. The code base is... interesting.
<tonymac32> vendor hardware uses all different means of booting
<lanefu> yeah why cant linux be a bootloader
<archetech> I meant a community crew not arm itself
<HerculeP> reboot via ssh failed, power cycling brought up the desktop now, THANKS GUYS!
<lanefu> nice!
<tonymac32> ^
* HerculeP waves good night, past midnite here ..
<lanefu> HerculeP: cya thanks for tsting
<HerculeP> my pleasure
<tonymac32> lanefu I don't think so, that adds a device section, we don't want one at all on C2
<IgorPec> lanefu: yes
<IgorPec> tonymac32: i think its safe for bionic
<IgorPec> but it has to be double checked
<tonymac32> igorpec I built bionic
<IgorPec> oh
<IgorPec> image rebuildin tomorrow once again ? :)
<lanefu> so i'm confused now... don't cherry-pick? or do? or it's more complicated than that
<lanefu> Tonymac32: should i expect same display probolem on le potato as c2?
<IgorPec> its more complicated. but cheery pick is better than nothing
<tonymac32> lanefu I would assume so, they have the same GPU
<lanefu> lol.. i already cherry-picked that into RC1 yesterday
<IgorPec> in case this is the problem, i'll make .1 buid tomorrow