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<lanefu> Arch
<lanefu> archetech: usually you can do it before hand. Pico is really talking to rhat usb device... so it is powered
<lanefu> And it just has to relay serial traffic
* TRS-80 is only noob on serial himself but thinks yes to "start a picocom session on a laptop then plug board to power"
<TRS-80> if you get garbage your settings are wrong
<lanefu> TRS-80: what are your reservations about armbian monitor
<lanefu> Privacy with -u flag?
<TRS-80> lanefu: the only documentation I could find were in comments of the code itself :)
<TRS-80> but maybe I didn't look enough
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<TRS-80> .: impression I got "maybe not ready for prime time" but I could be totally wrong
<lanefu> Its a critical tool
<lanefu> It's very ready
<TRS-80> yeah I susspect Dunning-Kreuger which is why I ask :)
<lanefu> So it does a lot of different things some functionality being more than other
<TRS-80> (D-K on myself)
<lanefu> Whats Dunning-Kreuger
<TRS-80> how well are those templates installing RpiMonitor? this is well supported?
<lanefu> That part.... not so critical or cared for
<TRS-80> lanefu: initially low information people vastly under-estimating their own knowledge of a subject (tl;dr)
<c0rnelius> it is just an adapted monitor. it kind of works.
<TRS-80> lanefu: that was my suspiscion
<lanefu> Its the -m and -u are the important parts
<TRS-80> yes I did -m on some local device to test and seen -u referenced often
<TRS-80> in threads, etc.
<TRS-80> so I guess my question was on the other part (templates for RpiMonitor) where you confirm my suspicions, thanks
<lanefu> Ha ya i had forgotten about the rpimonitor stuff
<lanefu> Theres -z i think too thats good
<TRS-80> yes I was reading in code the options
<TRS-80> and first step in playing was doing -h (and -H) in another terminal on odroid on lan
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<TRS-80> I saw privacy mitigation comments already in the script code
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<archetech> ok I get garbage then U-Boot SPL 2017.09 rockchip-ayufan using latest arch arm
<lanefu> Good ole TK. Always lookin out
<archetech> so that sound normal?
<lanefu> Yep
<lanefu> Is there more?
<archetech> yeah Im using gator clips and I gotta be careful
<lanefu> Lol
<archetech> need to rehook for more info
<archetech> least I got working and havent smelled smoke yet
<lanefu> I amazed they fit
<archetech> lol they dont I bent the pins to make work
<TRS-80> what could possibly go wrong .jpg XD
<lanefu> So. Tx,Rx and Ground should be all you need
<archetech> yup just clumsy w/o the right wires
<lanefu> There's a VCC pin that i would skip
<lanefu> Yeah i bet
<archetech> yeah I read some posts on what to do/not do
<lanefu> Okay great
<archetech> I have to burn either your image from 2 days ago or a standard minimal bustrc
<lanefu> Did you read the part where it says not to lick the board while plugged in?
<TRS-80> > not using tongue for serial TTY debugger in 2020
<archetech> yeah though its tempting
<lanefu> Yeah just trust the docs on that
<TRS-80> you are just like, not electrically connected to the universe, maaan
<lanefu> TRS-80: ive traced a phone circuit on a 66 block before with licking my finger and dialing
<TRS-80> nice
<TRS-80> I guess, same way like hanging up repeatedly (which is the way old rotary dial phones worked)
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<archetech> lanefu: url for your .img pls
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<archetech> nm ill use buster current
<archetech> yours has new stuf/patches vs current?
<lanefu> Yeah not sure if igor has built fresh rc1 images or not
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<lanefu> hmmm
<lanefu> so my a Libreomputer heat sink
<lanefu> cuz i hadnt cleaned up my amazon wish list
<lanefu> soooo now i need an SBC to go with it
<lanefu> can't decide between Le Potato or Tritium h5
<lanefu> *my wife got me a libre computer heatsink
<Tonymac32> rofl
<Tonymac32> The Tritium H5 does not have the "V" part of DVFS
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<Tonymac32> so it's locked at 1 Ghz or so. Nice board, but you need to know that up front
<Tonymac32> 1.2 Ghz maybe
<Tonymac32> can't remember exactly
<Tonymac32> The Potato, on the other hand, is a bit more flexible
<lanefu> yeah the LOL part is i already have both
<Tonymac32> ha
<lanefu> i meean i could get one of hte elsser tritiums
<lanefu> but why would i want less ram
<Tonymac32> right
<lanefu> according to TK's sbc bench
<lanefu> Le Potato 1410 MHz 4.18 Stretch arm64 3780 96680 657200 1810 5730 3.92 http://ix.io/1iSQ
<lanefu> NanoPi K1 Plus 1152 MHz 4.14 Stretch arm64 3030 78740 533380 1040 3070 3.32 http://ix.io/1m3x
<lanefu> so potato is obviously a bit faster
<lanefu> is it $5 faster lol
<lanefu> i wish they didnt use a different heatsink for the renegade...
<lanefu> how far can you wrecklessly overclock a potato
<Tonymac32> you can't
<Tonymac32> #Blobs
<lanefu> right
<lanefu> so from a idealogical perspective.. higher purity with the tritium right
<Tonymac32> so the dvfs is handled by the closed-source blob, that's also why you never really know how fast it's clocked unless you do some sort of known execution time loop
<Tonymac32> yep
<lanefu> okay
<lanefu> in order of TRS-80
<Tonymac32> hahaha
<lanefu> another tritium h5 it is
<lanefu> *honor
<lanefu> maybe i cant word correctly
<lanefu> Man
<lanefu> OMG i am not typign what i'm thinking
<lanefu> at all
<Tonymac32> I have some RISC-V microcontrollers I am playing with, but can't find a source for the chips themselves, so less and less likely to put any time into them
<TRS-80> lanefu: You remember old movie Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield?
<lanefu> i have no idea how you do all the thingsyou do
<lanefu> TRS-80: indeed i do
<TRS-80> at some point Kurt Vonnegut knocks on the door?
<TRS-80> when he needs to study for English or something
<lanefu> ha that i dont remember
<TRS-80> in my mind, I pictured rms appearing in exactly such a way when you ping me like that
<TRS-80> XD
<lanefu> haha
<Tonymac32> Cat's Cradle
<Tonymac32> If you want your brain turned into pudding
<TRS-80> lanefu: but back to "from a idealogical perspective"... it almost always has real world consequences, as I am sure you realize (and seems so in this case) which, again, usually is the case... ;)
<TRS-80> also RISC-V is the future! (I hope) :)
* TRS-80 goes back to forums
* TRS-80 still did not reach the top of "All Activity" stream for today :/
<lanefu> OMG freakin tv stuff clogs the screen
<lanefu> lol
<sarnold> HELLO 7-BIT FRIEND
<lanefu> man i watched a series of vides were a dude restored a teletype console w/ punch tape writer/reader
<lanefu> just amazing stuff
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<TRS-80> gn
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<brittman914> quick question -- I'd like to disable zram swap, where is the place that actually persists the zram configuration? /etc/default has the actual enable, but something actually init's the devices
<lanefu> try systemctl disable armbian-zram-config
<lanefu> and systemctl stop armbian-zram-config
<brittman914> Well I specifically wanted to keep /var/log, but ditch swap
<brittman914> i'll take a deeper look at conf
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<archetech> lanefu u got a new $5 heatsink so buy a board for it lol funny
<brittman914> he's got SOO many boards lol, but I can't say anything, I lost count how many boxes I have around
<lanefu> yeah i don't even know how many i have
<brittman914> Like I'm 99% sure I have 3 Apple ///'s
<brittman914> and god knows how many OrangePi's and RPi's
<c0rnelius> you guys have a problem
<lanefu> there are worse ways to fill the emptiness inside
<c0rnelius> you guys need to start going to groups.
<c0rnelius> some shit like this
<lanefu> this is the group
<c0rnelius> i beg to differ... but. if it helps, keep it up,
<Tonymac32> wait, who has apple ///'s?
<c0rnelius> out of boredom i've actually been looking for local groups. non really in my area, which is not shocking for Florida.
<lanefu> Tonymac32: brittman914 has apple ///'s
<lanefu> c0rnelius: local SBC enthusiasts?
<lanefu> i used to goto a makerspace, but those guys are too into all the maker movement
<lanefu> and i have my own tools already
<c0rnelius> lanefu: that or just bsd and linux. i'd even take android at this point :/
<brittman914> I bought a project, bought a working one, and then have another for a project
<Tonymac32> nice
<Tonymac32> lanefu I generally try to avoid movements
<Tonymac32> ;-)
<lanefu> i usually like one in the morning after coffee
<brittman914> the /// is fascinating, I did have a Macintosh Portable for a while
* Tonymac32 was letting that one go, but lanefu went all in
<lanefu> lol
<brittman914> oh yeah same with the makerspace here
<Tonymac32> We had piles of IIe's
<brittman914> like it was just chaotic with the maker BS
<Tonymac32> I should have saved a couple when they literally dumpstered all of them in 2001
<brittman914> Tonymac32: I have at least one of each (IIc/IIe/IIGS)
<Tonymac32> I love the IIGS
<brittman914> yeah it's funny, everything that was literal garbage is starting to be worth something
<Tonymac32> the IIC was cute, so tiny
<brittman914> I have a Amiga 1200 too
<Tonymac32> oh nice
<Tonymac32> as earlier discussed I have a TRS Model 100 portable, and a Color Computer 2
<brittman914> I go in these phases, and I was tired of re-buying everything after dumping it, so I just decided to keep it all LOL
<brittman914> Tonymac32: literally got my M100 out a couple days ago
<Tonymac32> nice
<brittman914> Uh, they put CP/M on the REX on the M100?!
<Tonymac32> my kids are loving playing the the CoCo
<brittman914> I haven't messed with my CoCo2 yet lanefu keeps telling me the CoCo was awesome, but I know nothing about it
<lanefu> twas my first computer so of course it was awesome
<brittman914> I grew up with an XT and the IIGS, used the IIe at school
<lanefu> except putting " on top of the 7 key
<Tonymac32> hahahahaha yes
<lanefu> i had to relearn normal keybaords
<Tonymac32> I love non-standard keyboards of old
<lanefu> it was like typing with a lisp
<archetech> <c0rnelius> you guys need to start going to groups.
<archetech> <c0rnelius> some shit like this
<archetech> <lanefu> this is the group
<archetech> pretty good come back lane
<lanefu> heh i try
<c0rnelius> pssh
<brittman914> the Tandy 1000 was like that, who in the _hell_ decided a key called HOLD, right above the arrow keys, was a good idea
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<Tonymac32> lol we had one of those
<Tonymac32> amber screen
<brittman914> mine was color till my 5153 took a dive -_-
<brittman914> and a Sun T5220 I got from a guy at Kansasfest
<Tonymac32> I have used Mac Draft
* archetech the tiny computer support group thats us
<archetech> im a sbc-aholic
<brittman914> I love anything with ARM in it, it's like re-living the PowerPC thing all over again
<lanefu> archetech: it only takes one SBC
<lanefu> and orangepi one ruined my life
<lanefu> *an
<Tonymac32> I was lost with the Mini2440, before the Raspberry Pi was even rumored
* Tonymac32 has used kernel 2.6 on ARM
<lanefu> you're a lifer tony
* Kamilion hides his rikomagic mk802 III
<Kamilion> noone must know of my allwinner obsession (or they'll make fun of it for repeated GPL violations)
<Tonymac32> I actually got it so I could learn ARM assembly, which I did
<lanefu> yeah i'm an allwinner fan.. the linux-sunxi folks just really have their stuff together
<Kamilion> amlogic's been really really nice ever since the mainline support for le potato
* Tonymac32 only recently tossed a pogoplug
<lanefu> Kamilion: true... my N2 is awesome
<Kamilion> ah, marvell. How I knew ye well. Especally your bigendian images. That and linksys's NSLU2
<Kamilion> long long ago on an unSLUnG ArmBE install far far away
<Kamilion> hey, at least nobody uses sveasoft anymore. Right? RIGHT?
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<Tonymac32> I think both Amlogic and Libre computer funded the mainline effort simultaneously
<Tonymac32> kamillion: 2019 © Sveasoft
<Tonymac32> too many L ahhhhh
<Tonymac32> kamilion ^
<Kamilion> and to think, of all companies to acquire linksys, it had to be cisco.
<TRS-80> Kamilion: Allwinner situation is weird. Yes you are correct of course, yet somehow the community turned those arch into some of the best supported, in spite of all that.
<Kamilion> mostly thanks to icynowy's tireless efforts over years
<Tonymac32> right
<TRS-80> does he work there?
<TRS-80> or independent guy?
<Kamilion> i believe she worked for allwinner; unsure if currently employed by them or just contracted
* TRS-80 assuming gender count 1 -> 2 now
<lanefu> Icenowy is amazing
<lanefu> I think she got contracted to so something for like the allwinner v3 for lichee pi
<lanefu> but that was a long time ago
* Tonymac32 looks over at v3s's on desk
<TRS-80> and had an interest / well familar with internals ever since (speculation) I suppose
<lanefu> i hope she's getting some work from them.. definitely deserves it
<TRS-80> yeah
* archetech goes through tonys trash for pogo
<TRS-80> > 21:19:35 Tonymac32 | I think both Amlogic and Libre computer funded the mainline effort simultaneously
<TRS-80> why do I think of Aml as having more blobs than anyone else?
<Tonymac32> they have 1 big one
* TRS-80 probably doesn't know what he's talking about
<TRS-80> for graphics I am guessing? or boot?
<Tonymac32> the system supervisor/power domain controller is a Cortex M4 inside the beastie that is undocumented
<Tonymac32> (If I recall correctly
<Tonymac32> )
<archetech> my eo2 still runs latest stuff
<Tonymac32> so to boot it needs a blob
* Kamilion looks over at his Lichee Pi NanoFW(16M) F1C100s boards
<TRS-80> stuff like that running power management seems somewhat common (or maybe I just happen to read that on some other hardware just today)
<archetech> arm5te speedster
<Tonymac32> armv4t ftw
* Tonymac32 remembers a simpler time
<archetech> was my first arm 4 yrs ago
<Kamilion> yeah, MC68000. I remember that simpler time too.
<Tonymac32> lol I learned assembly the first time on an 8080
<Kamilion> still have a 520ST behind me with the VT100 cartridge
<lanefu> VT100 like a TTY?
<Kamilion> "safest" machine I own thanks to it's MASK roms
<Kamilion> yeah.
<Tonymac32> then learned the horror show that is the 80486 (which, dig deep enough, smeels strangely like an 8080)
<lanefu> Kamilion: did that like turn it into a terminal?
<Kamilion> yep
<archetech> 1992 x86 assembly forget what boxes the collage had
<lanefu> thats cool
<archetech> college
<Kamilion> the newer ataris had a VT52 emulator built into the rom
<archetech> push pop repeat
<lanefu> so what would you hook them up to
<TRS-80> this is what I was thinking about I was reading today: https://linux-sunxi.org/AR100
* TRS-80 is having his own conversation with himself XD
<Kamilion> lanefu: anything with a 19200 baud serial port
<TRS-80> s/with/all by/
<Kamilion> it's probably the device I could trust the most to enter a passphrase on
<lanefu> 19200 == 8250 UART
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<lanefu> pretty rad tho
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<Kamilion> not even -- motorola MC6809 ART
<lanefu> doh
<Kamilion> before the u, just like uefi was once just plain efi *laughs*
<Kamilion> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7i8zs5dJY27asrlp1 But yeah, without a floppy drive, all mask-rom.
<Tonymac32> GEM
<lanefu> man thats cool.. i've never touched GEM in my life
<Kamilion> I had a 1040ST growing up -- picked up this 520 off ebay
<Kamilion> one of the few models that was "almost" +5V only
<Kamilion> two things in this unit: +12v to the RGB -> Composite -> RF modulator, and +/- 12V to the RS232 drivers.
<Tonymac32> OpenGEM was tinkered with until 2008 apparently
<Kamilion> everything else runs off 5V 1.4A.
<Kamilion> So the amazing thing to me, this thing's power brick is like five times the volume of my cellphone
<Kamilion> and yet one of the tinest apple chargers could probably run it today.
<TRS-80> Kamilion: another one of first computers I remember playing on, my friend older brother had one (1040ST)
<Kamilion> one of my personal favorites because of it's *lack* of custom stuff
<TRS-80> Mail Order Monsters, Archon, and some dungeon game where the copy protection was an FBI man in game encounter
<TRS-80> unlike you guys (from sounds of it) I knew nothing of computers back then, except that I liked them a lot
* archetech was a salesman for the VIC20
<Kamilion> amiga had all the fancy extra chips, mac classics had all kinds of neat stuff made specifically for them, but the atari ST line... pretty much the only custom chunk of it is the SHIFTER video chip. Rest of it could be implimented in discrete logic.
<archetech> ya want a cassette drive w/ that
<TRS-80> archetech: Serious? I thought you were some whipper-snapper for some reason. XD
<archetech> im almost 60
<TRS-80> no idea where I got that from
<archetech> these arm things keep me young
<Tonymac32> hahaha
<Kamilion> nothing to rejuvinate you like memory mapped peripheral I/O
<Tonymac32> in al, 20h
* TRS-80 had somewhat of an "aha" moment seeing some similarities between some description of how qemu works as basically a giant memory map he read, with a dtb file he was reading for the first time
<Tonymac32> for the curious https://arm.flatassembler.net/
<Tonymac32> release magic smoke at your own rislk
<Tonymac32> or should I say RISC
<Tonymac32> I wonder if anyone tried to move that to linux at all
<Tonymac32> I used it in school on windows machines
<TRS-80> Tonymac32: https://instantrimshot.com/
<TRS-80> > or should I say RISC
<Tonymac32> the main one, for x86 is Linux, but it looks like the ARM one died
<TRS-80> > Runs under Win32 (9x/NT/2K/XP/Vista/7/8/8.1/10) and LINUX.
<TRS-80> from link you posted
<Tonymac32> I guess I should have been more clear, I don't believe it can run on ARM
<Kamilion> nonintel architectures are great because of the simple peripheral memory mapped I/O
<Kamilion> context switches suck. Register windowing for the win.
<Tonymac32> lol
<archetech> ok news on my rock64 ... it's giving a KP on boot per serial
<archetech> with rc img
<lanefu> yay
<archetech> am I supposed to get a little red light when ftdi is connected?
<TRS-80> brb
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<lanefu> archetech: not sure
<lanefu> depends on what the light means
<Kamilion> i've got a collection of USB to TTL adapters. Some have power lights. Some have status lights. Some have TX/RX indicators. Some have all. One has none.
<Kamilion> what is the state of the LED?
<Kamilion> solid, slowly blinking at a pace, quickly blinking at a pace, irrgularly blinking slowly, or irregularly blinking quickly?
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<Kamilion> you've got three pins connected, GND, TX, RX? At least one board of mine has a bunch of fault LEDs and a set of very weak voltage references to set the I/O voltage on the shifters, but only exposes the 5V from the USB and 3.3v from a LDO, despite being jumperable for 2.5v or 1.8v too.
<TRS-80> whew, now I can get on with the rest of my day... :/
<archetech> no the light is on the rock sbc constant and dim
<archetech> not bright like a boot
<archetech> seems to do it when I have 2 connectors touching
<archetech> so Ill call it a warning light heh
<Kamilion> wiki says red led is "Standby" on pine64
<Kamilion> make sure you don't have any of the power pins from the ftdi connected
<archetech> yup
<Kamilion> board's getting power from the same grounded circuit the computer is, or is an isolated floating (battery / laptop) supply ?
<archetech> 3 wires all in paraalell
<archetech> paralell
<Kamilion> I think if it fails to boot it lights all three LEDs solid, red green and white
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<archetech> i get white and red solid when it kp's
<archetech> im in putty it wont let me cp the output from terminal on linux?
<Kamilion> depends on which de
<Kamilion> shift-insert/middle-button does what?
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<archetech> kde need to get a log then
<Kamilion> I forget if putty generates a selection into the clipboard automatically on linux or not
<archetech> last line in kp is not sybcing that means its not find the right partitons
<archetech> finding
<archetech> syncing
<Kamilion> hm, putty/linux doesn't seem to be putting selections into the clipboard for me either
<archetech> np I set tit log
<archetech> set it
<archetech> its under logging options
<archetech> now im armed with the specific info do I create a post in forum if so what catagory
<archetech> brb
<lanefu> then if you're lucky you'll get yelled at
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<TRS-80> you only get 3 minutes, I noticed
<lanefu> yeah short window
<TRS-80> Is it nightly? I haven't paid that much attention. I did notice it's fairly regular, and almost always ~ 3 min.
<lanefu> interesting
<lanefu> yeah maybe it is
<lanefu> also whitequark is a genius.. i follow them on twitter
<TRS-80> I do recall seeing some interesting / neat stuff whilst looking around over there for contact info
<archetech> done now the baton is passed se what happens... thks lane/all for the help to get this far
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<lanefu> Internal error: Oops: 96000004
<lanefu> lol Oops
<archetech> any ideas?
<lanefu> seems to be a technial problem
<lanefu> *technical
<lanefu> man bad spelling ruins jokes
<lanefu> wanna try cranking up the verbosity setting in ArmbianEnv.txt as mentioned in this post? https://forum.armbian.com/topic/12763-armbian-2002-chiru-release-thread/?do=findComment&comment=95218
<lanefu> archetech: ohh btw i got a libre computer emmc that i'm gonna try on teh rock64
<lanefu> if it works i'll let you know
<archetech> ok have nt tried any emmc yet
<lanefu> if you do take the plunge, save yourself hours of rage, and get a usb-emmc adapter to just write stuff directly to it
<archetech> too late got hrs of it behind me
<archetech> but yes ive heard that helps
<lanefu> archetech: where'd you get this rockchip-fixup.scr
<archetech> its in the image ask them
<archetech> verbosity isnt goona provide more info its dead at the point ya see
<archetech> imo
<lanefu> Ohhhhh i misunderstood you
<lanefu> i thought yuo meant you applied rockchip-fixup.scr
<lanefu> but you're saying after the u-boot does
<archetech> wonder if that fixup fixes it a bit too well
<archetech> its a uboot issue or the kernel is missing a FS driver
<archetech> does armbian have a guy for uboots and a guy for kernels or each board has a maintainer
<archetech> I saw the latter I think
<lanefu> yeah maintainer is more oriented around board and SoC families
<lanefu> ...and this is just armian on a sdcard with 1 partition?
<lanefu> *armbian
<archetech> how do I find who the rock64 guy is so I can peak at his repo or docs
<archetech> see what he's doin diff on v1 2 3
<lanefu> standby
<lanefu> okay here's the teaching to fish
<archetech> yup se how the image gets pieced together
<lanefu> so the lack of a KERNELSOURCE= implies that for current, they're just going straight to mainline
<archetech> which is ok arch uses it
<lanefu> so differences will be here
<archetech> im thinking uboot config then kernel
<lanefu> not sure what this step does.. but might be interesting to investigate https://github.com/armbian/build/blob/master/config/sources/families/rockchip64.conf#L38
<archetech> thinking I can use a known good uboot even if older but current kernel/rootfs
<archetech> then feed it to the ubu machine
<lanefu> yeah maybe even trying building an older ayufans branch? https://github.com/armbian/build/blob/master/config/sources/families/rockchip64.conf#L5
<archetech> yeah
<lanefu> anyway hopefully that helps clarify the folder structure of the repo
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<archetech> like before the v3 came out but that dont explain why yours works which is so baffling
<lanefu> then the elegant way to make local changes is to use "userpatches" https://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_User-Configurations/
<archetech> thks ill put those links in a ref doc
<lanefu> cool.
<lanefu> alright i'm gonna crash. have a positive evening
<archetech> ok gn
* TRS-80 takes (mental) notes
* TRS-80 , thinking about it further, makes time stamp in actual notes, so can refer back to IRC logs later
<IgorPec> good morning
<IgorPec> resumed from hibernation :)
<TRS-80> Oh hey Igor! Yeah I'm still here. :)
<IgorPec> oh :)
<TRS-80> we were right about that guy we thought was a spammer btw, lol
<IgorPec> yeah, IMO you can remove all thread
<TRS-80> too bad no takers on bets, we could have collect today :)
<TRS-80> yeah I will at some point go through and clean up, for now they are hidden
<IgorPec> hidden is also just fine
<TRS-80> I was waiting actually for maybe one of newer people to show initiative or try the guide I wrote
<IgorPec> we have to engage other moderators more
<IgorPec> that you don't burn out :)
<TRS-80> yes, that was my point
<TRS-80> maybe I back off a little bit at times, take breaks, etc. allow others opportunity
<IgorPec> dunno what is the best strategy, perhaps
<TRS-80> well no one even has a chance when 24/7 I have it up in another window and near constantly monitoring "All Activity" stream...
<IgorPec> https://forum.armbian.com/forum/39-armbian-project-administration/ You have produced a lot of nice stuf, now puting into the action ... its normal that this takes time
<TRS-80> yes and I am aware of normal people time scale, just have to be patient
<IgorPec> good.
<TRS-80> and give them some room, I think
<TRS-80> I purposefully stay off the hamster wheel, but I am well aware most of the world is still on it ;)
<IgorPec> hamster wheel is default state :)
<TRS-80> well so called "developed" world anyway, amirite? :)
<IgorPec> we need pish / motivation for anything we do
<IgorPec> push
<TRS-80> drive maybe word you looking for?
<IgorPec> drive is better, yes
<TRS-80> funny pic, in college we took field trip to Frank Lloyd Wright place, one of his things (unlike most other architects) was making sidewalk like on left
<TRS-80> but I take your point
<IgorPec> this Frank is a creative fella
<TRS-80> you never heard of? He is very famous architect
<IgorPec> Europe has its own history :)
<IgorPec> joke. No, not exactly my field of interest
<TRS-80> not mine either but I am full of random info because I read all the time
<TRS-80> haven't had cable for over 20 years
<TRS-80> (tv)
<IgorPec> i am staying little behind https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/2922829-igor
<IgorPec> but am trying to cover the important stuff
<IgorPec> i have TV for family reasons :=
<TRS-80> In Praise of Idleness, I knew I liked you! :)
<IgorPec> laziness is must do :)
<IgorPec> brb, must do some morning activities
<TRS-80> nice, well rounded book shelf, Igor (I'm not the least surprised)
<TRS-80> I'm going back to playing Battle for Wesnoth now :)
<TRS-80> I been thinking of starting a post in General Chit Chat with Free Software game mini reviews, press F if interested
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<IgorPec> since you saw me in that Tank game ? :)
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<TRS-80> IgorPec: lol did you look at screen shot? It was a guy named Igor. :)
<TRS-80> later
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<TRS-80> Good morning, Guise.
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<lanefu> howdy
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<IgorPec> hej
<TRS-80> don't forget to get you gf / wives some flowers / chocolate today ;)
<TRS-80> IgorPec: Is "Valentine's Day" a thing over where you are?
<IgorPec> yes it is
<TRS-80> is it more religious like St. Valentines Day? (I might suspect)
<TRS-80> still
<IgorPec> no no, its not that much
<TRS-80> in US it's gotten disgustingly commercial
<IgorPec> flowers, sweets perhaps
<TRS-80> ok
* TRS-80 woke up to box of chocolates in front of his battle station :D
<IgorPec> my daughter wished my happy valentine at 6am :)
<TRS-80> aww, swweet! <3
<IgorPec> yeah, before i manage to boot up
<TRS-80> sneak attack :)
<lanefu> lol my wife gave me a le potato this morning
<IgorPec> :)
<TRS-80> lanefu: I thought is was just the heat sink? Or that was a tease / appetizer?
<Werner__> *knock* *knock*
<lanefu> TRS-80: soooo
<IgorPec> nock
<TRS-80> Who's there (besides Werner__ lol)?
<lanefu> last night I got the heat sink
<lanefu> felt bed cuz i thought she just got it out of context so i ordered a tritium
<TRS-80> yes I seem to remember that
<lanefu> but apparently i also had a le potato on my wish list
<lanefu> and aparently she got that too
<lanefu> lol
<TRS-80> the problems you have...
<TRS-80> ;)
<lanefu> yeah they're not treatable
<TRS-80> no I mean like "first world problems" (too many boards) :)
<IgorPec> speaking of boards
<Werner__> Tonymac32, if you identify yourself with Nickserv you will get +v automatically ;)
<IgorPec> I can give you 4pcs of Orange Pi Prime 2GB.
<IgorPec> PSU and 100Mbit 5port LAN switch included.
<IgorPec> got this offer today from technic007
<TRS-80> Werner__: Thanks, I thought that was appropriate for a long time (jmo, fwiw) but thought you would have to be the one to do it
<Werner__> I did this quite a while ago but Tony did not identify himself since then :D
<TRS-80> IgorPec: so, you saying you came here to hand out candy today? XD
<IgorPec> hehe, i got a candy offer :) , yes
<TRS-80> well, put me last on the list, only if no more qualified Devs speak up, because I am just low level wizard with some time on my hands
<lanefu> thats a nice little cluster waiting to happen.. minus the switch
<IgorPec> yeah, perhaps i will just make it
<lanefu> Prime is a great board... that's my "main" sbc
<IgorPec> lanefu: are we ready to release?
<IgorPec> :)
<lanefu> IgorPec: what's latest on A64 situation?
<IgorPec> boards are ok, pinebook works fine
<TRS-80> oh this is not development, I see it is Supported (I had to look up, so many boards...)
<IgorPec> teres no info. on mine USB / keyboard doesn't work
<IgorPec> i also checked H3 / PC+ reported on Facebook. my works perfectly normal with latest trunk
<IgorPec> no overheating
<lanefu> great... does this https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/1797 cover all the fixes needed?
<TRS-80> "The Orange Pi Prime has a Raspberry Pi model B+ compatible 40-pin, 0.1" connector" maybe the device I am looking for additional snapclient node... overkill, but price maybe right given Igor handing them out :D
* TRS-80 interest intensifies
<Werner__> I wish there were more of the current staff and contributors here on IRC. Barely noticing someone...
<IgorPec> yes, that's it. teres is/was anyway broken,
<lanefu> IgorPec: okay i'll work on getting that merged into RC1 branch
<IgorPec> TRS-80: if you need some boards, we can put you on the list when we go out shopping :)
<TRS-80> Werner__: +1, many more people than me deserve handouts (been here longer, contributed more), so perhaps make forum post about this IgorPec
<lanefu> IgorPec: TRS-80: -- any other RC1 issues on the forum that we shoul follow-up on?
<TRS-80> IgorPec: nah, don't spend money
<TRS-80> lanefu: You know, I have not necessarily been parsing that as a separate category, I probably need to pay closer attention (still getting up to speed) sorry :(
<IgorPec> we get free samples - the biggest cost is organising distribution
<IgorPec> sometimes we got more then we need, sometimes not
<TRS-80> IgorPec: I sort of figured that. I would be willing to pay shipping I suppose (depending).
<IgorPec> TRS-80: I arrange samples from China to "US office", Tony or Martin. They will forward you a board ... if / when we will get some extra
<IgorPec> I usually cover EU shipping
<TRS-80> Sweet! Thanks.
<TRS-80> currently been looking for RPi replacement, HAT compatible, to use as streaming music node (snapclient / DIY "Sonos" like) so don't need anything powerful but hey, beggars can't be choosers ;)
<TRS-80> I will restate that I feel others probably deserve more than me, but maybe they are drowning in boards already :)
<TRS-80> afk
<IgorPec> lanefu: branch it to v20.02 and ./build-all ?
<IgorPec> :)
<IgorPec> then a meeting what we had done wrong
<lanefu> IgorPec: hang on a sec
<IgorPec> yes yes
<lanefu> i was cherry picking and testing :)
<IgorPec> i also plan to do several small things
<IgorPec> but we can start in real perhaps in sunday?
<lanefu> sure
<IgorPec> this time is ok?
<IgorPec> its' 7pm here
<lanefu> yeah
<lanefu> 1PM here
<lanefu> i'm pretty flexible
<lanefu> no big plans this weekend
<lanefu> ..and I'm off work monday
<IgorPec> me neither, except tomorrow i am out for some dinner
<lanefu> cool.. well we can chip away at it and chat throug the weekend, and if we need to buckle down and concentration sunday is fine
<lanefu> *concentrate
<IgorPec> ok, perhaps a notice to the forum that other interested to speak up regarding release problems
<IgorPec> we can do small ad hoc changes, but the rest is for the future
<lanefu> yeah good idea i'll make a post
<lanefu> anyway just merged that fix if yuo wanna push out new RC1 images for A64
<IgorPec> I merged things to master. anyway we could just use it as is
<IgorPec> ahaa, for A64 ... no need for new RC1 images. I made several tests with Lime, Opi Win, M64 ...
<IgorPec> this week
<lanefu> LOL
<lanefu> so A64 was fine this whole time on rc1?
<IgorPec> no no
<IgorPec> after DVFS changes, which were not part of RC1 AFAIK
<IgorPec> no sure, but anyway its ok now :)
<lanefu> so have you published any newer RC1 images since our initial branch? just wondering if the patches I've added are available
<IgorPec> no, i only remake teres and pinebook, but right from master
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<MarcoFrost> hey guys
<lanefu> hi!
<MarcoFrost> what do i need to run the firewalla program on my nano pi neo
<MarcoFrost> i downloaded the firewalla software for free and imaged it to an sd card
<MarcoFrost> i have it booted up on a nanopi neo (512mb ram) 4 core 1.2ghz
<lanefu> sorry maccraft we don't really focus on that here
<lanefu> MarcoFrost:
<maccraft> waitwhat
<lanefu> maccraft: i meant MarcoFrost sorry
<IgorPec> :)
<maccraft> no problem mate
<MarcoFrost> firewalla is like... they used a little pi to make a commercial device
<MarcoFrost> you plug it into your router, and the pi boots up off the sd card
<MarcoFrost> then ... it protects your network with several interesting technologies
<MarcoFrost> it alerts an app on your iphone or android phone if a hacker breaks in
<MarcoFrost> and it shows you a map where the last traceable point they are hacking your network from
<lanefu> yeah i mean thats cool. but this isnt the SBC clubhouse, this is the armbian development channel
<MarcoFrost> oh
<MarcoFrost> where should i go ?
<lanefu> probaly nanopi forums in General or off-topic
<MarcoFrost> ok
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<c0rnelius> well if it was pulled off on a pi, i would think it would work on any sbc right?
<lanefu> c0rnelius: maybe.. but they just provide images for 2 types of hardware
<lanefu> so you could mount the images and crack them open
<lanefu> see what teh arch is
<lanefu> and started ripping stuff out
<c0rnelius> it doesn't matter, he be gone.
<c0rnelius> i find most things peps install on pis can be easily replicated else where. its just software and configs, usually.
<lanefu> click on that link
<c0rnelius> i did
<lanefu> "Firewalla is a general computer with a full Linux distribution. (Pretty much like Raspberry Pi, if you know what that is). "
<lanefu> _pretty much like a raspberry pi_
<c0rnelius> i'm aware, yes
<lanefu> so yeah "just software and configs"
<lanefu> lol
<lanefu> _just_
<maccraft> probably a iptables box
<lanefu> sure, it's probably not bleeding edge technology
<lanefu> but there's a lot of glue there
<IgorPec> hehe
<IgorPec> amazon reviews "Porn blocked and some sites you don’t want blocked"
<lanefu> lol
<c0rnelius> not the porn!
<lanefu> i didn't get very far
<IgorPec> what's that?
<lanefu> me trying to mount the firewall image
<lanefu> firewalla
<IgorPec> ahaam
<lanefu> my brain isn't working well today.. I didn't write a very good post about Last call for RC1
<lanefu> anybody feel free to edit
<lanefu> I'm also pretty sure TRS-80 is like 14, because I was up till 2am last night and he was still up after me
<TRS-80> rms appears
<TRS-80> wat.jpg
<IgorPec> yeah , i took a nap before :)
* TRS-80 will get plenty of chance to sleep when he is dead
<IgorPec> "Alright folks it's the home stretch." that should be said strait -> "In two days We plan to put out a release"
<IgorPec> IMO
<lanefu> yeah good idea
<IgorPec> and get some rest. I did a nap today, othewise I would not be able to be this sharp :
<IgorPec> :)
<lanefu> fixed
<IgorPec> now its fixed :) f you -> If you
<lanefu> F you is usually what Igor says :P
<lanefu> #teamwork
<TRS-80> XD
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<lanefu> BTW has Tido contributed any code to Armbian or only rhetoric?
<IgorPec> he is not a coder
<TRS-80> I noticed that unlike guidol, he did not contribute any actual use-case but rather vague ranting about "freedom"
<TRS-80> help help I'm being repressed
<lanefu> well played
<TRS-80> full scene (for context): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl4ufIrMtXg
<IgorPec> tido is in some bad mude i guess
<lanefu> Tido really values his opinion, but unfortunately sometimes he's more of a distraction than helpful
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<TRS-80> I don't think he even read the thread (or maybe only seeks to talk, instead of trying to understand others)
* lanefu surpresses his desire to shit talk and appologizes for raising the issue
<TRS-80> community management is a valid topic, imo, but perhaps too sensitive for public channel (pros/cons of public vs private of course)
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<TRS-80> lanefu: Also, I see you don't change to dark theme, yet. :D
<lanefu> yeah too much effort
<lanefu> i thought it was a secret theme in the site
<TRS-80> installing a plug in in FireFox is too much effort?
<TRS-80> Also this way it works on all sites, not just Armbian
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<lanefu> switching to firefox just to use a plugin is too much effort
<TRS-80> I gathered that after :)
<TRS-80> > assumptions
<TRS-80> welp, that thread turned into shitstorm pretty quick
* TRS-80 rolls eyes
<TRS-80> I gotta go pick up my brother and go to dinner
<TRS-80> happy Friday and Weekend everybody!
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