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<lanefu>
Arch
<lanefu>
archetech: usually you can do it before hand. Pico is really talking to rhat usb device... so it is powered
<lanefu>
And it just has to relay serial traffic
* TRS-80
is only noob on serial himself but thinks yes to "start a picocom session on a laptop then plug board to power"
<TRS-80>
if you get garbage your settings are wrong
<lanefu>
TRS-80: what are your reservations about armbian monitor
<lanefu>
Privacy with -u flag?
<TRS-80>
lanefu: the only documentation I could find were in comments of the code itself :)
<TRS-80>
but maybe I didn't look enough
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<TRS-80>
.: impression I got "maybe not ready for prime time" but I could be totally wrong
<lanefu>
Its a critical tool
<lanefu>
It's very ready
<TRS-80>
yeah I susspect Dunning-Kreuger which is why I ask :)
<lanefu>
So it does a lot of different things some functionality being more than other
<TRS-80>
(D-K on myself)
<lanefu>
Whats Dunning-Kreuger
<TRS-80>
how well are those templates installing RpiMonitor? this is well supported?
<lanefu>
That part.... not so critical or cared for
<TRS-80>
lanefu: initially low information people vastly under-estimating their own knowledge of a subject (tl;dr)
<c0rnelius>
it is just an adapted monitor. it kind of works.
<TRS-80>
lanefu: that was my suspiscion
<lanefu>
Its the -m and -u are the important parts
<TRS-80>
yes I did -m on some local device to test and seen -u referenced often
<TRS-80>
in threads, etc.
<TRS-80>
so I guess my question was on the other part (templates for RpiMonitor) where you confirm my suspicions, thanks
<lanefu>
Ha ya i had forgotten about the rpimonitor stuff
<lanefu>
Theres -z i think too thats good
<TRS-80>
yes I was reading in code the options
<TRS-80>
and first step in playing was doing -h (and -H) in another terminal on odroid on lan
<lanefu>
i wish they didnt use a different heatsink for the renegade...
<lanefu>
how far can you wrecklessly overclock a potato
<Tonymac32>
you can't
<Tonymac32>
#Blobs
<lanefu>
right
<lanefu>
so from a idealogical perspective.. higher purity with the tritium right
<Tonymac32>
so the dvfs is handled by the closed-source blob, that's also why you never really know how fast it's clocked unless you do some sort of known execution time loop
<Tonymac32>
yep
<lanefu>
okay
<lanefu>
in order of TRS-80
<Tonymac32>
hahaha
<lanefu>
another tritium h5 it is
<lanefu>
*honor
<lanefu>
maybe i cant word correctly
<lanefu>
Man
<lanefu>
OMG i am not typign what i'm thinking
<lanefu>
at all
<Tonymac32>
I have some RISC-V microcontrollers I am playing with, but can't find a source for the chips themselves, so less and less likely to put any time into them
<TRS-80>
lanefu: You remember old movie Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield?
<lanefu>
i have no idea how you do all the thingsyou do
<lanefu>
TRS-80: indeed i do
<TRS-80>
at some point Kurt Vonnegut knocks on the door?
<TRS-80>
when he needs to study for English or something
<lanefu>
ha that i dont remember
<TRS-80>
in my mind, I pictured rms appearing in exactly such a way when you ping me like that
<Tonymac32>
If you want your brain turned into pudding
<TRS-80>
lanefu: but back to "from a idealogical perspective"... it almost always has real world consequences, as I am sure you realize (and seems so in this case) which, again, usually is the case... ;)
<TRS-80>
also RISC-V is the future! (I hope) :)
* TRS-80
goes back to forums
* TRS-80
still did not reach the top of "All Activity" stream for today :/
<lanefu>
OMG freakin tv stuff clogs the screen
<lanefu>
WHY ARENT PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE SAME THINGS I AM INTERSTED IN?!
<lanefu>
lol
<lanefu>
IM NOT SCREAMING, JUST USING TELETYPE
<sarnold>
HELLO 7-BIT FRIEND
<lanefu>
man i watched a series of vides were a dude restored a teletype console w/ punch tape writer/reader
<lanefu>
just amazing stuff
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<TRS-80>
gn
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<brittman914>
quick question -- I'd like to disable zram swap, where is the place that actually persists the zram configuration? /etc/default has the actual enable, but something actually init's the devices
<Kamilion>
and to think, of all companies to acquire linksys, it had to be cisco.
<TRS-80>
Kamilion: Allwinner situation is weird. Yes you are correct of course, yet somehow the community turned those arch into some of the best supported, in spite of all that.
<Kamilion>
mostly thanks to icynowy's tireless efforts over years
<Tonymac32>
right
<TRS-80>
does he work there?
<TRS-80>
or independent guy?
<Kamilion>
i believe she worked for allwinner; unsure if currently employed by them or just contracted
* TRS-80
assuming gender count 1 -> 2 now
<lanefu>
Icenowy is amazing
<lanefu>
I think she got contracted to so something for like the allwinner v3 for lichee pi
<lanefu>
but that was a long time ago
* Tonymac32
looks over at v3s's on desk
<TRS-80>
and had an interest / well familar with internals ever since (speculation) I suppose
<lanefu>
i hope she's getting some work from them.. definitely deserves it
<TRS-80>
yeah
* archetech
goes through tonys trash for pogo
<TRS-80>
> 21:19:35 Tonymac32 | I think both Amlogic and Libre computer funded the mainline effort simultaneously
<TRS-80>
why do I think of Aml as having more blobs than anyone else?
<Tonymac32>
they have 1 big one
* TRS-80
probably doesn't know what he's talking about
<TRS-80>
for graphics I am guessing? or boot?
<Tonymac32>
the system supervisor/power domain controller is a Cortex M4 inside the beastie that is undocumented
<Tonymac32>
(If I recall correctly
<Tonymac32>
)
<archetech>
my eo2 still runs latest stuff
<Tonymac32>
so to boot it needs a blob
* Kamilion
looks over at his Lichee Pi NanoFW(16M) F1C100s boards
<TRS-80>
stuff like that running power management seems somewhat common (or maybe I just happen to read that on some other hardware just today)
<archetech>
arm5te speedster
<Tonymac32>
armv4t ftw
* Tonymac32
remembers a simpler time
<archetech>
was my first arm 4 yrs ago
<Kamilion>
yeah, MC68000. I remember that simpler time too.
<Tonymac32>
lol I learned assembly the first time on an 8080
<Kamilion>
still have a 520ST behind me with the VT100 cartridge
<lanefu>
VT100 like a TTY?
<Kamilion>
"safest" machine I own thanks to it's MASK roms
<Kamilion>
yeah.
<Tonymac32>
then learned the horror show that is the 80486 (which, dig deep enough, smeels strangely like an 8080)
<lanefu>
Kamilion: did that like turn it into a terminal?
<Kamilion>
yep
<archetech>
1992 x86 assembly forget what boxes the collage had
<lanefu>
man thats cool.. i've never touched GEM in my life
<Kamilion>
I had a 1040ST growing up -- picked up this 520 off ebay
<Kamilion>
one of the few models that was "almost" +5V only
<Kamilion>
two things in this unit: +12v to the RGB -> Composite -> RF modulator, and +/- 12V to the RS232 drivers.
<Tonymac32>
OpenGEM was tinkered with until 2008 apparently
<Kamilion>
everything else runs off 5V 1.4A.
<Kamilion>
So the amazing thing to me, this thing's power brick is like five times the volume of my cellphone
<Kamilion>
and yet one of the tinest apple chargers could probably run it today.
<TRS-80>
Kamilion: another one of first computers I remember playing on, my friend older brother had one (1040ST)
<Kamilion>
one of my personal favorites because of it's *lack* of custom stuff
<TRS-80>
Mail Order Monsters, Archon, and some dungeon game where the copy protection was an FBI man in game encounter
<TRS-80>
unlike you guys (from sounds of it) I knew nothing of computers back then, except that I liked them a lot
* archetech
was a salesman for the VIC20
<Kamilion>
amiga had all the fancy extra chips, mac classics had all kinds of neat stuff made specifically for them, but the atari ST line... pretty much the only custom chunk of it is the SHIFTER video chip. Rest of it could be implimented in discrete logic.
<archetech>
ya want a cassette drive w/ that
<TRS-80>
archetech: Serious? I thought you were some whipper-snapper for some reason. XD
<archetech>
im almost 60
<TRS-80>
no idea where I got that from
<archetech>
these arm things keep me young
<Tonymac32>
hahaha
<Kamilion>
nothing to rejuvinate you like memory mapped peripheral I/O
<Tonymac32>
in al, 20h
* TRS-80
had somewhat of an "aha" moment seeing some similarities between some description of how qemu works as basically a giant memory map he read, with a dtb file he was reading for the first time
<archetech>
ok news on my rock64 ... it's giving a KP on boot per serial
<archetech>
with rc img
<lanefu>
yay
<archetech>
am I supposed to get a little red light when ftdi is connected?
<TRS-80>
brb
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<lanefu>
archetech: not sure
<lanefu>
depends on what the light means
<Kamilion>
i've got a collection of USB to TTL adapters. Some have power lights. Some have status lights. Some have TX/RX indicators. Some have all. One has none.
<Kamilion>
what is the state of the LED?
<Kamilion>
solid, slowly blinking at a pace, quickly blinking at a pace, irrgularly blinking slowly, or irregularly blinking quickly?
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* TRS-80
just now finally reached top of "All Activity" stream on forums
<Kamilion>
you've got three pins connected, GND, TX, RX? At least one board of mine has a bunch of fault LEDs and a set of very weak voltage references to set the I/O voltage on the shifters, but only exposes the 5V from the USB and 3.3v from a LDO, despite being jumperable for 2.5v or 1.8v too.
<TRS-80>
whew, now I can get on with the rest of my day... :/
<archetech>
no the light is on the rock sbc constant and dim
<archetech>
not bright like a boot
<archetech>
seems to do it when I have 2 connectors touching
<archetech>
so Ill call it a warning light heh
<Kamilion>
wiki says red led is "Standby" on pine64
<Kamilion>
make sure you don't have any of the power pins from the ftdi connected
<archetech>
yup
<Kamilion>
board's getting power from the same grounded circuit the computer is, or is an isolated floating (battery / laptop) supply ?
<archetech>
3 wires all in paraalell
<archetech>
paralell
<Kamilion>
I think if it fails to boot it lights all three LEDs solid, red green and white
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<archetech>
i get white and red solid when it kp's
<archetech>
im in putty it wont let me cp the output from terminal on linux?
<Kamilion>
depends on which de
<Kamilion>
shift-insert/middle-button does what?
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<archetech>
kde need to get a log then
<Kamilion>
I forget if putty generates a selection into the clipboard automatically on linux or not
<archetech>
last line in kp is not sybcing that means its not find the right partitons
<archetech>
finding
<archetech>
syncing
<Kamilion>
hm, putty/linux doesn't seem to be putting selections into the clipboard for me either
<archetech>
np I set tit log
<archetech>
set it
<archetech>
its under logging options
<archetech>
now im armed with the specific info do I create a post in forum if so what catagory
<TRS-80>
funny pic, in college we took field trip to Frank Lloyd Wright place, one of his things (unlike most other architects) was making sidewalk like on left
<TRS-80>
but I take your point
<IgorPec>
this Frank is a creative fella
<TRS-80>
you never heard of? He is very famous architect
<IgorPec>
Europe has its own history :)
<IgorPec>
joke. No, not exactly my field of interest
<TRS-80>
not mine either but I am full of random info because I read all the time
<TRS-80>
"The Orange Pi Prime has a Raspberry Pi model B+ compatible 40-pin, 0.1" connector" maybe the device I am looking for additional snapclient node... overkill, but price maybe right given Igor handing them out :D
* TRS-80
interest intensifies
<Werner__>
I wish there were more of the current staff and contributors here on IRC. Barely noticing someone...
<IgorPec>
yes, that's it. teres is/was anyway broken,
<lanefu>
IgorPec: okay i'll work on getting that merged into RC1 branch
<IgorPec>
TRS-80: if you need some boards, we can put you on the list when we go out shopping :)
<TRS-80>
Werner__: +1, many more people than me deserve handouts (been here longer, contributed more), so perhaps make forum post about this IgorPec
<lanefu>
IgorPec: TRS-80: -- any other RC1 issues on the forum that we shoul follow-up on?
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: nah, don't spend money
<TRS-80>
lanefu: You know, I have not necessarily been parsing that as a separate category, I probably need to pay closer attention (still getting up to speed) sorry :(
<IgorPec>
we get free samples - the biggest cost is organising distribution
<IgorPec>
sometimes we got more then we need, sometimes not
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: I sort of figured that. I would be willing to pay shipping I suppose (depending).
<IgorPec>
TRS-80: I arrange samples from China to "US office", Tony or Martin. They will forward you a board ... if / when we will get some extra
<IgorPec>
I usually cover EU shipping
<TRS-80>
Sweet! Thanks.
<TRS-80>
currently been looking for RPi replacement, HAT compatible, to use as streaming music node (snapclient / DIY "Sonos" like) so don't need anything powerful but hey, beggars can't be choosers ;)
<TRS-80>
I will restate that I feel others probably deserve more than me, but maybe they are drowning in boards already :)
<TRS-80>
afk
<IgorPec>
lanefu: branch it to v20.02 and ./build-all ?
<IgorPec>
:)
<IgorPec>
then a meeting what we had done wrong
<lanefu>
IgorPec: hang on a sec
<IgorPec>
yes yes
<lanefu>
i was cherry picking and testing :)
<IgorPec>
i also plan to do several small things
<IgorPec>
but we can start in real perhaps in sunday?
<lanefu>
sure
<IgorPec>
this time is ok?
<IgorPec>
its' 7pm here
<lanefu>
yeah
<lanefu>
1PM here
<lanefu>
i'm pretty flexible
<lanefu>
no big plans this weekend
<lanefu>
..and I'm off work monday
<IgorPec>
me neither, except tomorrow i am out for some dinner
<lanefu>
cool.. well we can chip away at it and chat throug the weekend, and if we need to buckle down and concentration sunday is fine
<lanefu>
*concentrate
<IgorPec>
ok, perhaps a notice to the forum that other interested to speak up regarding release problems
<IgorPec>
we can do small ad hoc changes, but the rest is for the future
<lanefu>
yeah good idea i'll make a post
<lanefu>
anyway just merged that fix if yuo wanna push out new RC1 images for A64
<IgorPec>
I merged things to master. anyway we could just use it as is
<IgorPec>
ahaa, for A64 ... no need for new RC1 images. I made several tests with Lime, Opi Win, M64 ...
<IgorPec>
this week
<lanefu>
LOL
<lanefu>
so A64 was fine this whole time on rc1?
<IgorPec>
no no
<IgorPec>
after DVFS changes, which were not part of RC1 AFAIK
<IgorPec>
no sure, but anyway its ok now :)
<lanefu>
so have you published any newer RC1 images since our initial branch? just wondering if the patches I've added are available
<IgorPec>
no, i only remake teres and pinebook, but right from master
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<MarcoFrost>
hey guys
<lanefu>
hi!
<MarcoFrost>
what do i need to run the firewalla program on my nano pi neo
<MarcoFrost>
i downloaded the firewalla software for free and imaged it to an sd card
<MarcoFrost>
i have it booted up on a nanopi neo (512mb ram) 4 core 1.2ghz
<lanefu>
sorry maccraft we don't really focus on that here