Werner__ changed the topic of #armbian to: armbian - Linux for ARM development boards | www.armbian.com | Github: github.com/armbian | Commits: #armbian-commits | This channel is logged -> http://irc.armbian.com
<ashthespy>
On paper BT should work with mainline.. I need to test and enable the right Kconfig options..
<ashthespy>
TBH I got sidetracked playing with u-boot mainline for rk3308...
<IgorPec>
ok. this can be done later. its not expected that everything works
<ashthespy>
Btw - we should soon be able to squeeze RK3308 into rockchip64...
<IgorPec>
aha, this is still a rocpis-dev family. i haven't noticed
<IgorPec>
what is the main difference between your 5.5 and mainline + patches?
<ashthespy>
No networking/Audio stuff yet
<ashthespy>
and tsadc
<ashthespy>
mainline just boots :p
<IgorPec>
let's wait for piter if he had some complains. our first priority is sorting our bugs for release next week
<IgorPec>
after we release stuff, things will become less complicatged
<ashthespy>
Sure, no hurries, I don't believe there are a lot of people waiting with this board ;-)
<IgorPec>
yeah, agree. I also don't have it
TRS-80 has joined #armbian
ashthespy has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
archetech has joined #armbian
douardda has joined #armbian
<douardda>
hi, I want to fix issue #1798 on gh (I created a couple of days ago)
<douardda>
making a patch to make the pcm5102a selectable is easy
<douardda>
but I'm not sure how to make is selected (as module) bu default for sunxi boards
<douardda>
to make it selected by default (sorry)
<douardda>
should I modify config files in config/kernel ?
skiboy has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<IgorPec>
douardda: yes.
<IgorPec>
if you start compilation with KERNEL_CONFIGURE="yes" or make menuconfig ... do you get a prompt? I mean can you select it?
<douardda>
I do use menuconfig yes
<douardda>
and I can select it (according it has a description in the Kconfig file)
<IgorPec>
ok,then its ok. If you use our build tool to get into kernel menu changes it also creates a config after you exit ... and save inot output/config/
<IgorPec>
or .config .. copy that over config/kernel/linux-xxx-yyy.config
<douardda>
ok let's give it a try then
<IgorPec>
ok
<douardda>
IgorPec: is there a reason not to build other pcmxxx modules in armbian by default? or it is just because it come like that from upstream?
<douardda>
(like try to keep the linux-image-current-sunxi package not too fat)
<IgorPec>
no reason, you can enable others if you like
<IgorPec>
we don't need to keep kernel small in size
<douardda>
ok thanks
<douardda>
at least the pcm5102 and pcm51xx since they are very common in cheap "dacs"
<TRS-80>
> we don't need to keep kernel small in size
<TRS-80>
Yes, it is not (Mach?) or GNU Hurd, etc.; Linus and Co. gave up on that long ago XD
<IgorPec>
yeah, but on the embedded side of the world ... size do matters. still
<TRS-80>
Of course true. Just making bit of a joke. :)
<douardda>
gheez I had not cloned a (vanilla) kernel for ages, damn it has grown quite a bit
<IgorPec>
i know :)
<TRS-80>
see though ^ lol
<TRS-80>
I read a little about concepts of micro kernels, which I found very interesting, but apparently monolithic are much faster in practice, so here we are
<TRS-80>
Another interesting tid-bit: Intel Management Engine uses Minix, making it by far the most widely deployed micro-kernel in use today. :D
<IgorPec>
i ran AMD :)
<douardda>
then you go the unikernels (there's even one in OCaml: MirageOS :p
<douardda>
I should give a try running mpd on such a unikernel...
<TRS-80>
AMD followed suit pretty soon after, unfortunately. I always forget wthat theirs is called though. Aah there it is Platform Security Processor (PSP) https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd
<TRS-80>
"It is extremely unlikely that any post-2013 AMD hardware will ever be supported in libreboot, due to severe security and freedom issues; so severe, that the libreboot project recommends avoiding all modern AMD hardware."
<douardda>
yeah I saw a talk at fosdem more/less on this
<douardda>
I guess open hardware is the only way to go
<TRS-80>
douardda: it is *slowly* moving that way, but we have a long way to go
<douardda>
yep
<IgorPec>
yeah. very slow
<TRS-80>
but this is real reason I throw all my weight behind Armbian. I feel strongly we have a rare strategic opportity to shape the future market of computer hardware, which is shaping up right before our very eyes
<TRS-80>
Intel and other dinosaur business models are already dead. they just have a lot of momentum and resources, so it will take a long time still :D
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: I thought that link was going to be about F/LOSS movement or something XD
<IgorPec>
its about similar hard strouggle
<IgorPec>
not really sure if we its a right match, but wording is
<TRS-80>
certainly, would make great book title for what I was thinking, but guess not since it's taken already XD
<IgorPec>
yeah. btw. i am delivering a speech in two weeks in the local hackers club. international version will follow later in the year
<IgorPec>
it's kind of update of where we are, mainly on the technical aspects of the project
<douardda>
IgorPec: the proper way for a patch is a gh PR or a git send-email is ok?
<IgorPec>
PR is preffered way
<douardda>
ok
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: That is awesome, man. I only (somewhat) recently stumbled across your presentaiton at BalCCon2K17 and thought it was great. It connected a lot of dots for someone even like me who has been following the project for a while. I think it deserves more visibility, that video, somehow on the site.
<TRS-80>
it looks like it was just stuck on that page for lack of ideas where else to put it :D
<IgorPec>
that video is from 2017 IIRC. It needs an update.
<IgorPec>
TRS-80: thanks for cheer up. I have to hibernate to be able to prepare for the presentation :) and to do some daytime jobs
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: like me you are textbook introvert :) which (maybe you know) actually does not mean we are anti-social, but rather we need alone time to "re-charge our batteries" as opposed to extrovert who receive charge from being around people
<TRS-80>
Also yes it was a compliment for sure, but also it is a double edged sword being in such position, as I am sure you already found out. Another reason I try to help, I been in such leadership position before, myself.
<TRS-80>
s/you are/you sound like
<IgorPec>
am aware of the other edge/s and which is why we are trying to create better formal decision structure.
<TRS-80>
Yes, looks like it. Sometimes I worry you burn out, then I fear no more Nice Things (tm) for us. :)
<IgorPec>
to make it right and to save our souls from burning out
<TRS-80>
lol jinx
<IgorPec>
hehe :)
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: if you ever travel to US I would like to buy you some beers
<IgorPec>
yes, that's a real problem. which is why I am going to sleep right now :) ask @lanefu about those decision making stuff, can't find atm
<TRS-80>
OK, cheers
<IgorPec>
i have been close two months ago
<IgorPec>
in the south pacific
<TRS-80>
don't forget to let me know when you do
<TRS-80>
Hawaii? lol
<TRS-80>
I mean mainland US, even then... it is very big country, so...
<IgorPec>
no, much more to the south
<IgorPec>
not in US
<TRS-80>
oh, maybe you meant "close to burning out" ???
<IgorPec>
world southern capital city?
<TRS-80>
I dunno, depend on what metric I suppose :)