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<lanefu>
Yeah probably vim3
<lanefu>
I forgot why it's a bit faster than the n2, but i believe it is
<Tonymac_32>
So, more soldering tonight, this time ribbon cable to character LCD's. Only 160 joints or so, but more tedious
<Tonymac_32>
:P
<Tonymac_32>
also involves hot glue
<lanefu>
what are you putting together?
* lanefu
learning about kernel frame buffer driver and "modedb"
<archetech>
fbdrv is lowest last choice for X use
<lanefu>
what are you using?
<archetech>
what gpu?
<archetech>
kms modesetting is lowest I use
<lanefu>
Mali G52 MP4
<lanefu>
but i dont care about 3d
<archetech>
kms modesetting should be enough
<archetech>
or bifrost
<lanefu>
bifrost is an Xorg driver?
<lanefu>
you have a sample xorg config?
<archetech>
yes
<archetech>
no I use lima
<lanefu>
what driver are using with lima?
<archetech>
manajro has a forum thread on arm for bifrost
<archetech>
manjaro
<archetech>
kern uses rockchip-drm and X uses lima
<archetech>
mali-450
<lanefu>
where does lima get its edid info for display?
<lanefu>
can you show me that config?
<archetech>
fr kern drv
<archetech>
make sure bifrost is right driver
<archetech>
google
<lanefu>
ive got a mali 450 board too
<archetech>
G52 is quite better
<lanefu>
all im trying to do is get 2560x1440@60hz resolution
<archetech>
ive got that on my rock64 manjaro kde
<lanefu>
can you show me your x config for that
<archetech>
boards not up atm
<archetech>
doing lfs
<Tonymac_32>
lanefu day-job handheld equipment I designed
<Tonymac_32>
so the only things you are allowed to know is it has a lot of JST connectors, and a display. :P
<lanefu>
homelab has new meaning
<lanefu>
LOL
<Tonymac_32>
well, our building is still on lockdown more or less, and there is a rumor that my basement is better equipped anyway...
<Tonymac_32>
I picked up a NanoVNA V2, it arrived today, curious to see if it works
<lanefu>
archetech: so problem is Xorg is only driving whatever resolutions are being returned by the framebuffer kernel drv.... and FB driver doesnt seem to support any reesolutions not in modedb
<archetech>
so what board
<lanefu>
le potato, orange pi4, odroid n2
<archetech>
those all do that res not sure what the issue is
<Tonymac_32>
on paper they do. the potato will if plugged into the monitor on boot, but won't dynamically
<archetech>
got all of X installed?
<Tonymac_32>
I assume the N2 is similar but mine is headl;ess
<lanefu>
lol yes
<lanefu>
fb will detect and do full 4k@30hz on n2
<archetech>
paste your x.0.log
<lanefu>
xrandr sees no other reesolution
<lanefu>
if i override fb resoltion with `video=` paramer i can geet it to do other resolutions.. ex; 1080p then X will abide
<lanefu>
but since 2560x1440 isnt defined in the kerne's modedb it doesnt work
<archetech>
shouldnt have to touch the kernel line
<lanefu>
"shouldn't"
<archetech>
heh
<lanefu>
i've tried forcefeeding edid bin
<lanefu>
which it picks up
<lanefu>
but xrandr doesn't see the port connector as whats indetified with the FB
<archetech>
sound like a kernel config prob
<lanefu>
yeah its missing code
<archetech>
try manjaro
<lanefu>
is your console 2560x1440
* archetech
runs
<archetech>
yes
<lanefu>
is that the max resolution of your display?
<archetech>
yes qhd
<archetech>
try manjaro seriously then use those configs for armbian
<lanefu>
well
<lanefu>
no wonder yours works then
<lanefu>
thats the max resolution
<archetech>
whats your max 4k?
<archetech>
then 2k should work
<lanefu>
yeah 3840 × 2160
<ArmbianTwitter>
@orangepixunlong (OrangePi): @Automatid @OPi_Community @Poddingue @cnxsoft @armbian it's available now, pls try again! thanks for your feedback! (17s ago)
<Tonymac_32>
join the orange pi gig economy :P
* Tonymac_32
realizes he works in automotive during a pandemic, maybe should think about it actually...
<nekomancer[m]>
in automotive industry?
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<Tonymac_32>
yep. People don't buy cars when they can't go outside lol
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<Tonymac_32>
I'm an EE IRL, the software stuff is a hobby
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<nekomancer[m]>
I thought they all died long ago ...
<nekomancer[m]>
at previous epoch
<Tonymac_32>
the EE's? They mostly live in caves and basements
<Tonymac_32>
playing with things that terrify the surface dwellers
<nekomancer[m]>
EE — Electric Enginers?
<Tonymac_32>
yes
<nekomancer[m]>
software instead of hardware
<Tonymac_32>
I concentrated on magnetism and semiconductors, and studied wave theory (including acoustics/photonics) to keep my mind occupied
<Tonymac_32>
I found being bored is lethal to my ability to function
<Tonymac_32>
while a full time student I also sold car parts full time, because knowing why hillbilly vehicles are broken is somehow therapeutic, and I needed money
<nekomancer[m]>
it is.
<nekomancer[m]>
semiconductors in kitchen.
<nekomancer[m]>
homemade bionic PLC
<Tonymac_32>
hahahaha
* Tonymac_32
never feels reassured when USPS tracking just says "In Transit, Arriving on Time" with no waypoints
<lanefu>
USPS tracking is automated hearsay
* lanefu
going to bed and read about linux video drivers so i can figure out what to blame for my rage
<Tonymac_32>
hahahaha viel Glueck
<archetech>
no manjaro eh
<archetech>
updating arch arm atm
<Tonymac_32>
isn't that every day?
<archetech>
well its rolling so
* Tonymac_32
used arch for several years
<Tonymac_32>
I only changed because it made sense to have my server also be a test bed for Armbian
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<archetech_arm>
Sysinfo for 'alarm-r64': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.19.3 on Arch Linux ARM powered by Linux 5.7.7-1-ARCH
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<archetech_arm>
I have no xorg.conf on this I use wayland
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<archetech_arm>
uses 1920x1080
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<archetech_arm>
Compositing Type: OpenGL ES 2.0
<archetech_arm>
OpenGL vendor string: lima
<archetech_arm>
OpenGL renderer string: Mali450
<archetech_arm>
is that cool or what
<Werner>
Nice
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<archetech_arm>
its identical quality to say intel hd630
<Tonymac_32>
Hi Werner
<Werner>
Hey Tony
<Tonymac_32>
@archetech yeah, the drivers for Midgard are really doing well now too, I was playing tuxcart/etc on my Tinker board with Armbian
<Werner>
Does it have issues with hardware accelerated desktop?
<Werner>
Because Panfrost is still quite buggy...
<Tonymac_32>
for some reason on the 3288 I didn't see any issues with desktop, now I wasn't accelerating the desktop itself
<Tonymac_32>
it wasn't like a couple other boards where everything broke if the acceleration was even available
<Werner>
As for example Panfrost has issues when firing up the DE to build the wallpaper in once piece. It needs a moment to sort out fragments which are usually in the bottom right corner of the screen. Probably because there is some "dimming" effect that is hardware accelerated.
<Werner>
Also there are lags when putting a simple load to it like moving windows with shadows around
<Werner>
Tuxcart is playable but has very low fps
<Werner>
s/fps/fps in some situations
<ArmbianHelper>
Werner meant to say: Tuxcart is playable but has very low fps in some situations
<Tonymac_32>
it's playable at low FPS without acceleration on the big core stuff
<Tonymac_32>
so I wonder
<Tonymac_32>
well, maybe it isn't, I don't play tuxcart, it might block
<Tonymac_32>
I had some other stuff running at low FPS trying to figure out what was going on, but it's been months
<Tonymac_32>
I think it was 5.4 (?), I was able to set it up for full playable game
<Werner>
Well since it has these teething problems I assume it won't run smoother on other devices. Just talking about the T720 with Panfrost
<Werner>
Never tried DE on H3 with T-450. Would not do quite well with 512MB memory anyways
<Tonymac_32>
haha
<Tonymac_32>
that sounds so ludicrous when I went to school with a 512 MB PC that was awesome at the time...
<Werner>
True
<Tonymac_32>
Sometimes I have to wonder what the actual benefit is
<Werner>
of what?
<Tonymac_32>
besides the obvious (that PC used 100 Watts for a single core HT)
<Tonymac_32>
I thinka curve of available computer resources to productivity/capability gain would be pretty stark
<Werner>
The power consumption is indeed a hugh factor. The price as well. You get quite some power for very low price in acquisition as well as within runtime.
<Werner>
Even using an older laptop as homeserver draws a multiple times the current a sbcs needs.
<Tonymac_32>
Right, however, a 512 MB SBC should be functionally usable
<Tonymac_32>
web goes without saying is just insanely bloated (My browser is using 4 GB on this machine)
<archetech_arm>
Vendor: lima (0x13b5)
<archetech_arm>
Device: Mali450 (0xffffffff)
<archetech_arm>
Version: 20.1.3
<archetech_arm>
Accelerated: yes
<Werner>
Web is an issue
<archetech_arm>
nope falkon --disable-gpu &
<archetech_arm>
reading about enabling it on falkon source build
<archetech_arm>
using -nox
<archetech_arm>
this with browser konvo client and konsole open
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@bruggems (Matthias Brugger): @MiguelAgueda @librecomputer @armbian @debian @openSUSE @openQAhq Fancy to open a bug on https://t.co/uxvBPoxDTZ then we can look into this. (10s ago)
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<lanefu>
happy friday
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<nekomancer[m]>
what are current testing LIB_TAG=v20.05 version for armbian image build?
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<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: sorry dont understand your question
<nekomancer[m]>
I want to test current development armbian image. on this channel I found a magic string `./compile.sh docker CLEAN_LEVEL=make,debs,images,sources FORCE_CHECKOUT=no BOARD=rock64 BRANCH=dev RELEASE=focal LIB_TAG=v20.05 BUILD_MINIMAL=yes BUILD_DESKTOP=no KERNEL_ONLY=no KERNEL_CONFIGURE=yes EXPERT=yes`
<nekomancer[m]>
but `LIB_TAG` seems old
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