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<ArmbianTwitter>
@lanefu (Lane Jennison): @jerry_hopper I've just updated the apt.armbian round-robin to redirect to their non-ssl site, has that helped? (26s ago)
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<lanefu>
alright I've sent emails to 4 North American sites requesting mirroring of Armbian
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<IgorPec>
great. I hope for the best! upload size on nginx / php has been raised. defaults are too little for uploading big pictures or updating forum modules
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<[TheBug]>
lanefu: you see Globalscale is releasing an 'ESPRESSOBin Ultra' ....lol
<lanefu>
oh jeez
<lanefu>
nope
<[TheBug]>
adding 2 network ports to the topaz, removing sata, adding an m.2 slot
<[TheBug]>
selling it as a network appliance
<[TheBug]>
I believe they add wifi or make it an option, haven't really had a chance to read full specs, caught it in a video in my morning feed
<[TheBug]>
"It ships with an updated 4.19 mainline Linux with integrated wireless and networking drivers. The ESPRESSOBin-Ultra CPE comes with optional M.2 memory slots, dual band AC Wi-Fi, and a 30W POE module via the WAN interface."
<Miouyouyou>
"Updated" "4.19" kernel
<Miouyouyou>
I hope they serve espressos more updated than their kernels at their local cafés.
<[TheBug]>
ohh don't worry, they will puke this into the ether and then drop all support and expect a group like Armbian to carry them as usual.. would be super awesome if they care enough tp participate a bit more though ;)
<[TheBug]>
s/tp/to
<ArmbianHelper>
[TheBug] meant to say: ohh don't worry, they will puke this into the ether and then drop all support and expect a group like Armbian to carry them as usual.. would be super awesome if they care enough to participate a bit more though ;)
<lanefu>
yeah i would motion that we don't support this one
<lanefu>
unless globalscale provides samples and makes an effort to participate directly
<[TheBug]>
to me it sounds like their push is really more toward openwrt on that one
<[TheBug]>
and network usage specifically
<lanefu>
yeah makes sense
<Miouyouyou>
I have no idea about Marvell chips stability, but Scaleway removing their arm64 line of servers due to stability issues isn't a good sign...
<lanefu>
and i've given up on porting vyos to armbian until they stop using overlayfs
<[TheBug]>
while providing Linux the verbage used by the video I saw made it sound more like a network device, while still talking about the old Espressobin as well as a network device also -- the authors use case of the device was mostly for networking purposes
<lanefu>
yeah the 32bit marvell stuff had bene pretty tried and true
<Miouyouyou>
Yeah, well, Marvell chips are mostly used for net boxes, so that makes sense
<[TheBug]>
Miouyouyou: I will say this, it really depends, overall I have found the platform MOSTLY stable. That said, the real reference should be the OVH SYS Arm server that are actually the same exact chipset that they sold for a long time, however, because of age of equipment and no interest in maintaining the automated services that drive it, they functionally discontinued it already. If you have
<[TheBug]>
one, you are lucky and they let you keep it and supposedly transfer, however, the day it is canceled it will be no more.
<[TheBug]>
That said, once a good kernel was built for the Sysarm servers they are pretty darn stable
<lanefu>
like the arm synologies uses the marvell SoCs i think
<Miouyouyou>
Received a nice mail to GTFO the Arm servers line and take a nice x86 server twice the price. Went to OVH.
<[TheBug]>
well online.net or their parent company as an entire entity has been having weird issues. Their internal outlook and tactics have changed wildly over the years under the differeing leadership it seems and they have done both some really cool stuff and at the same time just totally crapped on their customers over the years
<Miouyouyou>
Yeah, some Netgear and Linksys too use Marvell chips.
<[TheBug]>
so as per their arm services not continuing to be supported... thats not so suprising just from a company levl
<Miouyouyou>
Clearly, yeah
<Miouyouyou>
Both OVH and Online are aiming at being the new AWS. Online.net started to push S3 storage and Kubernetes capsules services...
<[TheBug]>
Online.net is just trying to stay relevant..
<Miouyouyou>
Migrating forced me to learn Ansible though
<Miouyouyou>
I'm starting to appreciate this little tech, even though it's outstandingly slow
<Miouyouyou>
It clearly surpasses writing clunky Bash scripts
<[TheBug]>
ansible can for sure be quite useful
<[TheBug]>
for deployment orchestration
<Miouyouyou>
Yeah, I'm also starting to use it for small remote tasks automation
<ikmaak>
without ansible id likely have given up on sbc's
<ikmaak>
too much reoccurring setups
<Miouyouyou>
And "that" specific argument that changes on "this" board
<ikmaak>
indeed
<ikmaak>
this way i can be sure i "did not miss a step" and so new setups just end up mostly selecting presets and just one or two new tasks.
<ikmaak>
and even best: over time, recepies get better, and you can be sure your old projects keep up if you want them to.
<Miouyouyou>
And the recipes (playbooks) are still redable 3 months after !
<lanefu>
stupid kubernetes
<lanefu>
the more S3 competitors the better tho
<nekomancer[m]>
kubernetes not work with swap.
<[TheBug]>
I hear someone talking about the evil. lanefu is not amused...
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<lanefu>
not work iwth swap?
<Miouyouyou>
Yeah, kubes hates swap. Many do, though, nowadays
<Miouyouyou>
Still, kubernetes provide solutions to problems that 90% of sysadmins will never have. And, the documentation made me rage more than once.
<[TheBug]>
Rage against the machine!
<Miouyouyou>
Minecraft 2 :
<Miouyouyou>
Rage against the kubes
<xwigg>
kubes are a disease
<lanefu>
Miouyouyou: yaah that's funny i've never even bothered to look at swap on any of my k8s worker nodes. i doubt there's any at all
<lanefu>
(my client's K8s) not mien i hate k8s
<[TheBug]>
lol, distate strong enough to disown the machines his own project is running on... thats some strong vibes
<lanefu>
I run nomadproject.io on my machines thanks you very much
<[TheBug]>
Now, tell us, how do you really feel lanefu?
<[TheBug]>
Don't hold back
<lanefu>
k8s it's fueled by the CNCF to creating a training and certification system to rival cisco of 10 years ago
<[TheBug]>
You can consider this your weekly kubernetes therapy session
<[TheBug]>
we are here for you.
<lanefu>
s/it's/is
<ArmbianHelper>
lanefu meant to say: k8s is fueled by the CNCF to creating a training and certification system to rival cisco of 10 years ago
<lanefu>
</conspiracy>
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<Miouyouyou>
If internationalization is i18n and kubernetes is k8s, armbian is a5n then ?
<solderfumes[m]>
Yes, M8u.
<Miouyouyou>
We can then stea^W inspire ourselves from the HTML 5 logo and create a new @5n logo.
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<lanefu>
whatever makes our site lynx compatible
<Miouyouyou>
Think of w3m !
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<IgorPec>
i am also doing 1st real world mirror avaliabiltiy test
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<IgorPec>
werner: mkdocs does't suck anymore thanks to lanefu :)
<xwigg__>
lanefu python guru
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<lanefu>
only a user
<lanefu>
possibly hobbyist
<[TheBug]>
LOL @ CEO of Google having to explain spam to US senators and why their shitty ad campaigns are delivered to spam in most cases -- I almost died laughing as I am sure all he wanted to say to him was that it was spam... even though the senator wouldn't consider it as such
<lanefu>
lol
<[TheBug]>
then after that, the next sentor started her time with "Hey all my ad campaign e-mails also go to spam, wonder why that is"
* [TheBug]
facepalmed
<lanefu>
Werner: no US swag store yet, correct?
<IgorPec>
it is
<lanefu>
same site?
<IgorPec>
no, let me check
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<xwigg__>
looks nice, needs an industrial touch perhaps
<xwigg__>
when is v20.08 branched? gotta test
<lanefu>
yeah we got a bit distracted with the armbian server move stuff
<lanefu>
so soon / this weekend?
<xwigg__>
no rush, just inquiring
<xwigg__>
will check trunk coming days
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<jl_67877>
Hi
<jl_67877>
I just switched an SBC from Armbian ubuntu to Buster. It works fine, but I have one problem. The SBC's seem to lose network access whenever they lose a network connection. This did not happen with Ubuntu.
<jl_67877>
Ubuntu would regain the connection after I unplugged and replugged the cable. (A switch upgrade could cause this.) Debian seems to crash the network on the node requiring a reboot. Is this normal?
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<buZz>
jl_67877: maybe some connection daemon from ubuntu is still running?
<buZz>
competing network managers at least often show such issues
<nekomancer[m]>
I have some SBC running ubuntu and buster based armbian. All of them returns into connection in case os ceble replug or switch restart.
<jl_67877>
It was a complete rebuild. I wiped the card and started with a new image and so nothing remained from Ubuntu.
<jl_67877>
Hmmm, I wonder why they are behaving this way. Any suggestions on something to troubleshoot? Sadly this SBC does not have an HDMI port and so I cannot throw a monitor on it.
<nekomancer[m]>
no hdmi — plug seriAl console
<nekomancer[m]>
try another ethernet: plug usb wifi or usb ethernet
<nekomancer[m]>
possible you see hardware-related problem
<jl_67877>
I will explore. It sounds like this is clearly not normal behavior.
<nekomancer[m]>
definitely not.
<jl_67877>
It is just strange that it seemed to work fine with Ubuntu with the same hardware and cable and then it stops with Debian.
<nekomancer[m]>
are kernel the same too?
<nekomancer[m]>
kernel with driversand firmware
<jl_67877>
I am running the latest Debian with the 5.4 kernel and so it is newer... I think that I was running 4.14 with Unbuntu