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<lanefu> This was fun. https://forum.armbian.com/topic/14689-build-environment-virtualization/?do=findComment&comment=105777 Some virtualization optimized ubuntu kernels don't have the binfmt_misc module
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<c0rnelius> hmm. that reminds me. I'm not sure why, but anytime I get a upgrade on qemu-user-static i get an binfmt-support error.
<c0rnelius> never bothered reporting it because I'm not sure how its related to armbian, but it does only happen on my nanopc-t4.
<c0rnelius> if i purge the package, upgrade and than reinstall all works as it should.
<lanefu> what do you use qemu-user-static for on your nanopc-t4
<c0rnelius> no offense, but what does that matter?
<lanefu> hahahaha because i was trynig to figure out how that relates to armbian
<c0rnelius> I don't know that it does, as stated above.
<[TheBug]> getting spicy in here.
<c0rnelius> just that link reminded me of the issue
<c0rnelius> i like spicy stuff ;)
<lanefu> `zgrep -i binfmt /proc/config.gz`
<c0rnelius> all i can say is, on other aarch64 os's I don't get the error.
<lanefu> i dont think qemu-user-static is installed by default on armbian.. so i think you just ended up with that package somehow? and maybe its not enabled on rk3399 kernel
<c0rnelius> lanefu: hmm that sounds likely and I didn't think of that.
<lanefu> my opi4 is sleeping so i cant check its kernel right now
<c0rnelius> well, if you will. let me know what you find. if not I'll just keep ignoring it.
<lanefu> lets just ignore it together
<c0rnelius> ha
<c0rnelius> perfect
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<oxu4> archetech: total score 240
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<Werner> Good morning
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<IgorPec> good morning
<IgorPec> have you find some weird thing after we moved server?
<Werner> Not this morning
<Werner> performance could be slightly better but that is most subjective feel
<IgorPec> on my line, everything is slow, can't tell :)
<IgorPec> but it is faster, overall?
<Werner> Not sure. Guess we should have done some measurements to confirm that. The performance is decent enough anyways
<IgorPec> there will be some optimisations
<IgorPec> we are not done yet. yesterday it was only survival mode ... to get services back online
<IgorPec> probably better performace could be achieved if we move database to dedicated machine
<Werner> Working decent for survival mode :D
<Werner> Not necessarily, depends on the load on the database
<Werner> If memory is available the innodb memory limits could be cranked up to keep more data available faster.
<IgorPec> we have 8Gb which is plenty
<IgorPec> do you know exactly which parameter to tickle?
<Werner> No by heart. Have to check
<Werner> s/No/Not
<ArmbianHelper> Werner meant to say: Not by heart. Have to check
<Werner> Its been quite a few years since I had to play with the mysql configs to get better results and that was no optimization for a forums database. Maybe Lane knows more if I just throw a few things like innodb_buffer_pool_size and query_cache_* here.
<IgorPec> i just checked on old server, we had somethjng
<IgorPec> on current, all those are commented out by default
<IgorPec> but yeah, for me its the same ... don't do this very often
<Werner> Maybe double innodb_buffer_pool_size as well query_cache_limit and _size would be a good start.
<Werner> Does the frontend have some caching already like memcached?
<IgorPec> yes, memcached is enabled for forum and webs
<Werner> Good
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<Werner> Haha spreadshirt even offering a wordpress plugin to integrate their stuff into wp sites ^^
<IgorPec> ok, how is this thsirt stuff ?
<IgorPec> the concept first ... this is like a webstore?
<IgorPec> so one has to have company to sell over them or how?
<Werner> Since the imprint will show your company there should not be an issue. Also ideally I do not touch the income. Should be fine
<Werner> Don't know the tax law outside Gemany and even here it is complicated enough.
<IgorPec> i bet its the same
<IgorPec> as here. i probably need to create a formal invocie or what?
<Werner> I have absolutely no clue. Maybe I am over-cautious.
<IgorPec> this has to be cleared out before we do anything
<Werner> Any lawyer present? ^^
<Werner> What is this Davčna številka ?
<IgorPec> thats tax ID
<IgorPec> ..davčna številka
<ArmbianHelper> tax number [sl~>eng]
<IgorPec> :)
<Werner> Yeah I knew that. I was just wonderen because you stated earlier that you do not have a tax id
<Werner> s/wonderen/wondering
<ArmbianHelper> Werner meant to say: Yeah I knew that. I was just wondering because you stated earlier that you do not have a tax id
<IgorPec> yes. i have a very basic company, just to be able to make an invoice
<IgorPec> but i do have access to accountant, my friend
<IgorPec> i don't do papers on my own ...
<Werner> Since the generated income most likely drops below a certain threshold it should not be a issue.
<IgorPec> in case there is something new in the game i have to ask ...
<Werner> With the smallest company type in germany, the Kleinunternehmen, I think you can make up to 22k€ per year without paying tax
<IgorPec> yeah, its not an issue, but invocing is
<IgorPec> tax is not an issue
<IgorPec> (currently unknown) paperwork which falls on my shoulders
<Werner> In theory all the paperwork and handling should be done by spreadshirt.
<IgorPec> if i need to create one bill, its fine
<Werner> This online shop operates from a platform provided by Spreadshirt (sprd.net AG).Spreadshirt is responsible for the technical functioning of this site and the processing of your order.
<Werner> When placing an order in this online Shop, the buyer exclusively enters into a contract with sprd.net AG and not with the Shop operator. The General Rules & Conditions of sprd.net AG apply exclusively to any order placed.
<Werner> no contracts with us
<Werner> So no bills
<IgorPec> ok, but we get some cut from the sale?
<IgorPec> and that is taxed income i guess
<Werner> Exactly but most likely way not enough to have to pay tax at all
<IgorPec> if i receive 1 EUR on my company account i have to process an invoce
<IgorPec> the problem is in "I"
<Werner> Would it be an issue if this happens once a month only?
<IgorPec> each transaction has to be recorrded and i am doing this manually
<Werner> Next payout: 17 Aug 2020
<Werner> I guess they payout once a month
<IgorPec> yeah, that would do
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<IgorPec> can be paid to the bank conto?
<Werner> Either that or paypal
<IgorPec> that's better. since i paypal needss to be registered to the company
<Werner> Do you want the shop credentials? You can put it by yourself and take a general look
<IgorPec> gimme to look how things are
<IgorPec> and wordpress plugin is here too, right?=
<Werner> Correct. Check query
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<lanefu> Werner: bummer it feels slower. I was concerned about the difference in latency for Europe as we moved from estonia to California
<Werner> I am fine with the performance. No worries there. Sure it could be faster but any website could be that.
<lanefu> It felt a bit zippier for me. CPU was i think specs are about the same, but disk io should be better
<Werner> If as much as possible is cache disk io should be a minor issue
<lanefu> I'll dig into some mysql tuning and see what i can do.
<Werner> Try to play with the innodb settings and the query cache as suggested
<lanefu> Yeah definitely best place to start
<Werner> Maybe there is a new version of Mustache available?
<lanefu> Yeah there is
<lanefu> The mustache error is coming from that theme
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<lanefu> I tried a similar fix with isArray but it didnt seem to do anything, and i think some sort of cache rebuild needs to be triggered. https://github.com/composer/composer/pull/8296/files
<Werner> Pretty sure there are howtos out there to clear the wp cache
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<Werner> Can you people keep a secret for you? There are rumors that armbian now has a swag store and provides a sneak peek for our beloved IRC users ;). Feedback highly appreciated! http://swag.armbian.com
<Werner> lanefu, since you are from the states I'd appreciate if you could take a look because I was not sure if there has to be a dedicated shop for the US to be set up since they seem to have an independent company oversees...
<lanefu> Well pretty straightforward. When i goto checkout and goto country there is no option for US
<lanefu> You all have all the fun over there in the civilized world
<Werner> That is unfortunate....
<IgorPec> haha. we need to create another store for US
<lanefu> Make America Armbian Again
<lanefu> All we get are shitty red hats
<Werner> IgorPec, try to login at spreadshirt.com. Maybe it just works?
<IgorPec> ok, let me check
* lanefu crossing fingers
* Werner sees coming that he has to do all that stuff once again
<IgorPec> yeah, it looks so ... just a moment
<Werner> phew
<PPA> This is almost completely off-topic, but I am sorely disappointed by how few (tbh I haven't found any) companies offer custom machine embroidered or jacquard-woven textiles
<PPA> It's all just prints, prints, prints
<IgorPec> "Link to a North American Shop in the footer"
<Werner> PPA true
<IgorPec> If you run a Shop on both platforms, you will have to upload your designs twice, create products and configure all other settings.
<Werner> dang it...
<IgorPec> but "With two Shops, you can also better address your target groups" :)
<IgorPec> so we need to hire one full time marketing person to deal with this now? :)
<Werner> Nah, we cannot effort it anyways. I have to dig through once again I guess
<IgorPec> but before you do, payment procedure will 100% be different
<Werner> So?
<IgorPec> it might be overcomplicated
<IgorPec> this has to be checked first. uploading logo is easy part
<Werner> Aight. Let me know when you are ready.
<lanefu> Werner: right here on the website it says
<lanefu> The extra effort is worth it if your designs are in international demand.
<lanefu> Lol
<Werner> ^^
<IgorPec> werner "Open our own shop" ?
<IgorPec> or "selling on the market"
<Werner> own shop
<lanefu> I already pay igor a montly fee just to be able to be his friend. I hope after i order enough swag for a uniform ill get a Christmas card
<Werner> LOL
<IgorPec> LOL
<lanefu> Bleh its 5am i should go back to sleep. All this new server business is so exciting its keeping me up
<Werner> I know that feel.
<Werner> Get some rest
<IgorPec> yeah, we'll cover up
* lanefu abides
<IgorPec> bank has to be US based
<Werner> Srsly? ...
<IgorPec> yep
<IgorPec> i can put paypal ... but not sure if that will work out
<IgorPec> well, we will leave this business to US friends
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<Werner> Oh good lord. They have more colors and products in the us...that takes a while to check everything
<IgorPec> yeah. i think we are good for start
<IgorPec> lets see how this will work. its pointless to deal with this if we will be the only customers ;)
<Werner> If at least a few bucks come in it was worth the effort :)
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<lanefu> I have a controversial idea. What if we customize the apt user agent string for the armbian apt repo
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<IgorPec> don't understand the purpose, clarify
<lanefu> Then we can tell a little more about whats requesting apt.armbian.com. ex: armbian or karmbian or oleg's image
<lanefu> Honestly it could even be by sbc
<IgorPec> aha, sure
<IgorPec> if not armbian, drop :)
<lanefu> ... yeah that too #geniunarmbian
<ArmbianHelper> . yeah that too #geniunarmbian [en~>eng]
<IgorPec> or at least save fastest for original
<IgorPec> 3rd party -> uganda mirrors
<lanefu> Yeah. And just helps us understand whats popular
<lanefu> Lol
<IgorPec> yep. complicated to bring in?
<lanefu> If oleg did a tvboxes string that would be insightful
<lanefu> Nope its just an apt setting... and i think you can set it by repi
<lanefu> Repo
<lanefu> Based on docs i read so far
<IgorPec> but on the images you need to add what?
<IgorPec> another keyword?
<lanefu> Maybe a tweak to the armbian apt source on firstboot
<xwigg> what's the prob/
<lanefu> Nothing particularly. Would be nice to see whats hitting armbian apt repos that originated from official armbian vs other armbian derivatives
<lanefu> Or see whats popular among our images
<IgorPec> perhaps retain the same logic as for stable / nightly / user-build ?
<IgorPec> or just have some sufisticated repository monitoring?
<lanefu> Yeah exactly
<xwigg> log analyzer
<lanefu> Like just data from armbian-release
<IgorPec> that would already tell which packages are popular
<xwigg> you could also include popularity-contest in images
<lanefu> Whats popularitycontest?
<Unit193> Rather opt-in though.
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<Werner> Hm are there some known issues with zram on /var/log? It filled up to 100% and now I get error messages on different activites that no space is left
<lanefu> Yeah..... when that happens i usually do a ritual of stopping the log2ram service. Restart rsyslog. Maybe rotate or prune. Then start service back up
<lanefu> Scripting a way to easily recteate the problem would definitely make it easier to solve for good
<lanefu> It's worth making a jira ticket and prioritizing. It comes up enough
<Werner> It seems like journalctl filled the 50M all the way up because the board ran into some issues after being up a few days. cleared, flushed and sync and everything is good again.
<lanefu> Yay
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<lanefu> man i handed that guy a fix for his "qemu vm" issue on a silver platter and he's disagreeing with me on how things work...
<IgorPec> helping people is hard job
<IgorPec> :(
<lanefu> yep... gotta remember to not be attached
<IgorPec> yeah.
<[TheBug]> sometimes people get locked into a way of thinking because they spent so much time on an issue
<[TheBug]> so they just swear it can't be that
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<[TheBug]> I have dealt with that
<[TheBug]> they just can't process what your giving them in a useful way because of how stressed or otherwise engaged they are
<[TheBug]> don't take it personal
<[TheBug]> more so a human limitation
<nekomancer[m]> 🤦
<nekomancer[m]> We are criminals.
<archetech> read that today its moronic
<lanefu> man is that the notion that long url's use more energy overall
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<IgorPec> is armbian eco or not?
<IgorPec> werner: my tshirt from our store was already dispatched :)
<Werner> Nice.
<Werner> Guess they will ship mine tomorrow since I have a mug in the order too.
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<mrueg> hm there's a rockpi 4c now: https://rockpi.org/rockpi4
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<lanefu> POE HEADER!
<lanefu> oh the 4b had that
<lanefu> damn and display port
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<ArmbianTwitter> @HOCupdate (Hackers Online Club (HOC)): Karmbian- Kali Based Linux System.  To run #KaliLinux on Single Board Computers. https://t.co/V3632YwpKO ● Builds custom Kali based #linux system optimized for RK3399 SBC supported by Armbian. ● Covers root filesystem generation, kernel image and boot loader compilation. https://t.co/bwLm0z4gTT (19s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @priyanshu_itech (Priyanshu Sahay): Karmbian- Kali Based Linux System.  To run #KaliLinux on Single Board Computers. https://t.co/niLCQiN9Gb ● Builds custom Kali based #linux system optimized for RK3399 SBC supported by Armbian. ● Covers root filesystem generation, kernel image and boot loader compilation. (12s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @lanefu (Lane Jennison): @thepine64 gets props for most robust packaging. Hopefully ill do some desktop tinkering on this PineH64 with the @armbian 20.08 RC https://t.co/qKZj3uw5wU (8s ago)
<lanefu> OMG I suck at twittering.. canpt even @Pine64 right
<Werner> Maybe switch to mastadon?
<IgorPec> what's wrong?
<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @lanefu: @thepine64 gets props for most robust packaging. Hopefully ill do some desktop tinkering on this PineH64 with the @armbian… (11s ago)
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<lanefu> haha i thought i spelled pine64's twitter handle wrong, but turns out it was correct :P
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