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<stipa>
so it compiled without that module and it's unavailable
<stipa>
bummer
<stipa>
i also can't find that module inside the menu, i can only dind it by "/" option but i have no clue where it's in ./compil.sh menu
<lanefu>
stipa: you modified linux-sunxi64-current.config and it didnt accept your change?
<lanefu>
is it possible it's deprecated or called something else now?
<stipa>
have no idea
<stipa>
with legacy i think it works
<stipa>
legacy option
<lanefu>
yeah I'd dig around and see if it's deprecated
<stipa>
at least i can find it with '/' in ./compile.sh and its '=m'
<lanefu>
sounds like most logical explaination
<lanefu>
yeah but just because it's our canned config file doesn't mean it exists
<stipa>
have no clue about that, it's above my skills
<stipa>
have no clue how it all works
<stipa>
i tought it just loads config file
<stipa>
and that's it
<stipa>
selects it in ./config.sh menu
<stipa>
and compiles selected
<stipa>
luck is not on my side
<stipa>
:D
<stipa>
i was so close
<nekomancer[m]>
Why that supermicro DOM better than samsung sata ssd?
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: because it doesnt need a power cable and just plugs into teh sata port on the motherboard
<lanefu>
stipa: yeah so i think ifb is an older way of doing things.. and if you want to do QoS on a newer kernel you'll be doing it through netfilter / nftables related stuff
<lanefu>
was trying to find something more definitive to explain, but best i can come p with
<stipa>
lanefu: will check it out
<stipa>
thanks
<archetech>
whats the SM MB model?
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: they're just purpose built for being a boot drive... I like to pretend the firmware is optimized for it vs a samsung desktop drive
<lanefu>
dunno model.. might be on the forum post. or in irc log
<lanefu>
the board has IPMI :) :) :)
<archetech>
thats a must
<nekomancer[m]>
where to store data? raid0 — work set, temporary. DOM — boot only. then somewhere should be raid1 as storage
<archetech>
raid 0 is what they have for 2 nvme ssd's
<archetech>
storage only
<archetech>
dom plus that is a good setup imo
<archetech>
easy to backup and restore too
<nekomancer[m]>
raid0 not a storage/
<nekomancer[m]>
every raid0 will dead eventualy
<archetech>
yeah right
<archetech>
been using R0 forever here
<lanefu>
i had 2 64gig DOMs in my super micro, but for some reason the bios dosn't support raid for them lol
<stipa>
bummer
<lanefu>
then one of them went bonkers
<lanefu>
and now i just use an SSD lol
<lanefu>
like i've totally done software mirroring on bootdrives way back in the day
<lanefu>
but its just not worth fiddling with
<nekomancer[m]>
use mdadm raid
<nekomancer[m]>
it's work.
<lanefu>
yeah I just have my server config written in ansible instead
<lanefu>
and backup the shit i care about
<lanefu>
speaking of which i need to setup borg
<stipa>
i have in plan to have radi0, probably software one
<stipa>
raid0*
<stipa>
since my opi doesn't have it :D
<stipa>
in hardware
<lanefu>
lol
<stipa>
:D
<stipa>
for backup, if one goes bad the other will probably survive, i guess
<stipa>
that's a plan
<lanefu>
yeah do DRBD between two orangepis lol
<stipa>
i'm a poor man, i have only one
<stipa>
so it'l be two external usb drives
<stipa>
in software raid0
<stipa>
need to find two cheap ones
<stipa>
i'll duct tape them
<nekomancer[m]>
beware of head
<nekomancer[m]>
heat
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<nekomancer[m]>
and vibrations.
<stipa>
i will
<stipa>
thanks for the tips nekomancer[m]
<[TheBug]>
Any of you guys ever used zram on Centos 7 and kernel 3.10.0 -- for some reason no matter what I do their stock kernel with their stock module will not allow the zram module to be inserted -- curious if anyone knew a way around that.
<[TheBug]>
modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'zram': Operation not permitted
<stipa>
does it give you to insert some other module?
<stipa>
if the ethernet port is 1Gbs NanoPi NEO3-LTS it's not bad at all for the price.
<stipa>
i guess the part of the board where memory and cpu are could go directly to the aluminum plate of the box it could be mounted in...
<stipa>
with the help of thermal conductive pad
<stipa>
i guess the cpu an memory aren't at the sam "height"
<stipa>
it is gigabit ethernet, nice
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<archetech>
AMD announced its new Ryzen Embedded V2000 SoCs today, which brings the company's Zen 2 architecture to the embedded market for the first time
<stipa>
cool
<lanefu>
everything is Ryzen
<lanefu>
therefore nothing is Ryzen
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<jonathon>
hey all. are there any forum mods/admins around? if so, is there any way my (newly-created) account could be bumped up a trust level so i can post more than once per day?
<jonathon>
yeah... i'm not paying for forum access as a contributor to plenty of OSS projects already.
<IgorPec>
then wait like others
<jonathon>
wow. thanks so much.
<IgorPec>
thank you for your "understanding"
<jonathon>
cheers
<IgorPec>
i see
<IgorPec>
enabled
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<stipa>
poor man
<lanefu>
lol
<lanefu>
honestly it's not my favorite policy, but it keeps the noise down
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<c0rnelius>
I think it's a pretty lousy policy. I understand trying to keep spam down but to suggest somebody needs to make a contribution in order to have a discussion is a bit ridiculous.
<ikmaak>
one post per day can also make the topic system less interesting, as people could just make a big post, quoting all the other active posts of the day, and responding on them.
<c0rnelius>
And let's not take into account that the whole reason the form exists is for support purposes? Might as well charge people before signing up.
<c0rnelius>
Forum*
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<c0rnelius>
I think a better approach might be to force people to use authentication. Be it an app or what have you. As far as I know general bots can't do this yet?
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<stipa>
i never felt a need to create more than one post per day
<stipa>
i usually go to the forum if i have a problem
<stipa>
and i don't have more problems than one which is one post per day
<stipa>
more than enough for my needs
<stipa>
why would that guy need more is a little bit fish
<stipa>
fishy*
<rneese>
might be a new board he wants supported
<rneese>
or a spammer
<rneese>
or a grammer freak
<rneese>
a grammer spammer
<rneese>
lol
<stipa>
haven't heard of grammer spammer before
<stipa>
what do those do?
<rneese>
spell/grammer checks your site and spams you with changes
<rneese>
lol
<IgorPec>
its terrible policy and it creates colateral damage
<c0rnelius>
one approach could be to just ask for money and see how many people you turn off?
<IgorPec>
i mean i want to suppress technical support questions, ideally just ridiculus
<IgorPec>
which is ofc not realistic
<stipa>
rneese: got it
<stipa>
IgorPec: right, you can't please everyone
<IgorPec>
i know, but i am too tensed lately
<IgorPec>
and overreact on any shit
<stipa>
project needs some cash and that's the way to go
<IgorPec>
but not by force :)
<stipa>
"This is the way"
<c0rnelius>
i thought armbian got backing from some of the vendors? sponsors as such.
<IgorPec>
we do, but we can't have full time staff
<IgorPec>
or cover some expensive R&D
<c0rnelius>
do you all have free hosting? local universities and colleges and a like that are willing to support open source and whatnot?
<IgorPec>
we were on free hosting until this year
<IgorPec>
but it was too many troubles
<c0rnelius>
gotcha
<c0rnelius>
ugh
<IgorPec>
we decided to move main infrastructure to HA
<IgorPec>
while mirrors are donated, yes
<IgorPec>
the biggest problem is not this, but time lost on things we don't like to do
<c0rnelius>
sounds like a business :)
<IgorPec>
its not paid, so its not :)
<IgorPec>
its like business
<c0rnelius>
i know, just saying.
<IgorPec>
i am strouggling to keep it on the level "we like"
<c0rnelius>
when I moderated the xfce forums it was out of the kindness of my heart, sounds like thats what you guys need.
<c0rnelius>
and then teams designated to certain aspects of armbian
<IgorPec>
this was here as well
<IgorPec>
perhaps my perception is changed so much
<IgorPec>
or i see just complains all over
<c0rnelius>
it start to wear i'm sure.
<c0rnelius>
starts*
<stipa>
ego crap
<IgorPec>
ego crap is everywhere
<IgorPec>
:)
<IgorPec>
especially in male comunities
<c0rnelius>
welcome to linux ;)
<stipa>
ha ha
<c0rnelius>
bsd is even worse
<IgorPec>
yeah, one local guy said few weeks ago ... you linux folks are like pigs
<IgorPec>
like everyone is shitting something in the code
<c0rnelius>
guess he hasn't hung on the freebsd forum before.
<IgorPec>
he is probably from there :)
<c0rnelius>
its all dick measuring on both sides. I mostly just try to ignore it.
<IgorPec>
yes
<stipa>
it's impossible
<stipa>
to ignore it
<stipa>
bsd guys are just jealous
<stipa>
but i have nothing againts any os
<stipa>
whatever works
<c0rnelius>
I appreciate constructive criticism, even when I don't wanna hear it at first. Its still good to hear and makes you think. But honestly most of its just BS opinionated nonsense.
<stipa>
it is
<stipa>
nothing useful
<c0rnelius>
and then I find a lot of it to be petty... I want it this way! and why isn't exactly how I want it and blah...
<IgorPec>
"this is my baby"
<stipa>
like Trump
<IgorPec>
vs "this is my baby" :)
<c0rnelius>
yah
<stipa>
my baby is smarter than yours
<stipa>
it's competition
<c0rnelius>
yes and no
<c0rnelius>
I'
<IgorPec>
competition on prime levels
<IgorPec>
ego stuff
<stipa>
egocentricity
<c0rnelius>
I'm not competitive... but I am always interested in learning new ways of doing things.
<stipa>
mee to, but you always have those competitive peeps lurking around
<c0rnelius>
very true
<stipa>
so if you want to get rid of them you have to compete :D
<stipa>
lol
<IgorPec>
or show them your superiority :) LOL
<IgorPec>
and we are at "this is linux"
<stipa>
yeah, it's wowen into the code
<stipa>
part of it
<stipa>
part of the linux ideology
<IgorPec>
we will hardly get rid of this problem, we can only try to mitigate
<stipa>
but it's not just in Linux, it's everywhere
<IgorPec>
by importing womens into our communities perhaps ?:)
<stipa>
ha ha
<stipa>
i think that's not a good idea
<stipa>
it would make things 100x worse
<IgorPec>
solving one problem, but make several new :)
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<stipa>
why not
<stipa>
that7s the only way to move forward
<IgorPec>
how to do it then?
<stipa>
maybe visuals
<stipa>
find a woman to do visuals for Armbian
<stipa>
it could attrack more women
<stipa>
her art
<IgorPec>
ok, first we need a pimp :)
<stipa>
just wave with a dollar bill and they'll come
<IgorPec>
i can allocate some dollars, will you do it?
<stipa>
hmmmm
<IgorPec>
the case is that we have no personal for such things. so whatever we speak about we can usually just speak about
<stipa>
i'm not sure if i have a taste to choose one
<stipa>
there are plenty on Linkedin in my connections
<IgorPec>
its more about organising things, let other choose
<stipa>
Oh
<IgorPec>
just throwing out ideas
<stipa>
i don/t know how Armbian hierarchy looks like
<stipa>
but some cute visuals would help to attract more women
<stipa>
ut i'm not sure
<stipa>
but*
<stipa>
just guessing
<IgorPec>
well, i support the idea even i don't know how this should / would work out
<stipa>
it's
<stipa>
subconsciously stuff
<stipa>
women like cute stuff
<IgorPec>
yep
<stipa>
and the best way to make something cute is to hire a woman
<stipa>
to do it
<stipa>
but the
<stipa>
problem is wich women
<stipa>
which one will make it happen
<stipa>
100%
<IgorPec>
i don't know. but we can start with a making a profile?
<IgorPec>
or do we need to find some HR expert for that?