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<lanefu> just a quirk with the bot
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<lanefu> Tony_mac32: in _really_ good shape with pbp.. cross your fingres this is my last build
<lanefu> s2idle sleep, volume keeys. bootsplash. rk3399 optimizations.. bluetooth wifi
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<rneese> all the patches should goto any rk3399 board
<ArmbianTwitter> @bd1308 (Britt): Pinebook Pro USB-C Video now working with #Armbian 5.8.10 Kernel! What a great device and distro!!!! (17s ago)
<rneese> now we have to get the new desktop on it
<rneese> then I can get one
<lanefu> better order one before they're gone
<lanefu> will probably be a few months at least before next batch goes out
<rneese> looking for the url to buy now
<bd1308> well....once the store comes back online (if you're talking about the Pinebook Pro)
<rneese> store.pine64.org is down
<rneese> ok
<bd1308> man i'm highly considering buying another PBP just for armbian development and tweaks
<bd1308> the only thing that could make this even better is wayland+GPU acceleration like manjaro
* nekomancer[m] crying on PnebookPro than stop to power on
<nekomancer[m]> nobody helps
<rneese> well having looked ad the manjaro build for pbp i wounder the performance differannce with the new kernel mods
<bd1308> it's funny I prefer using a ARM box over my really fast m5 Lenovo or my MBPr
<rneese> my t4 boots 7 times faster the my laptop
<nekomancer[m]> <lanefu "nekomancer: this is a winner! ht"> too late for me :(((
<rneese> I love arm but we need to get the new look going next
<rneese> what branch did you use
<lanefu> nekomancer[m]: too late?
<bd1308> rneese: lanefu and I have been making builds off of his 'pinebook-tweaks' branch. His latest build is above ^^
<nekomancer[m]> <lanefu "nekomancer: too late?"> my PBP dead at the evening, sunday.
<rneese> well I am working on the tweaks for the dde desktop now
<nekomancer[m]> at least I can't power it on/
<bd1308> lanefu: did you get that sleep thing in the right spot?
<rneese> get a volt meter and start checking gcaps
<bd1308> nekomancer[m]: mine did that too, I had to hold the power button for like 30 seconds and then power it back on
<bd1308> it totally acted dead until I did that
<rneese> bd1308 send it here I will repair it
<nekomancer[m]> I know this hint after I test "sleep" button. But no, now it not helps.
<rneese> well I have to work on all the bootup mods for the new desktop
<bd1308> oh mine works great now :) i'm on it now on a 27 inch 4k monitor (4k is CRAAAZY slow though)
<bd1308> nekomancer[m]: :'( i'm sorry to hear that
<rneese> so I have to skin the lightdm
<rneese> and then we have to get a new wallpaper for armbian
<rneese> we need a update
<nekomancer[m]> I hear there are kind of a usb device mode for firmware rewrite... Maybe it will help. When I find manual on that.
<lanefu> playing bluesbrothers 4k rip over wifi fullscreen iwth mpv
<rneese> the best thing is open the laptop rm the battery and with th epower unplugged hod the power button
<rneese> then turn around and add the power cord
<rneese> if that does not work its most likly a cap in the power circut
<rneese> and can be fixed
<nekomancer[m]> <rneese "the best thing is open the lapto"> I did already.
<nekomancer[m]> charging led on when charger connected, and off after some time
<nekomancer[m]> And I press reset button...
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<nekomancer[m]> It's a trinck — to press power button that under closed screen, when back can be removed only when screen closed, and screen can't be open while back removed
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<rneese> ok
<rneese> hope you get it fixed not a good thing to loose
<nekomancer[m]> still hope
<lanefu> nekomancer[m]: yeah you asked on the pineforums or discord?
<rneese> man building out this istall is a learning process
<nekomancer[m]> sure. no reaction in discord, no answer on forum
<lanefu> rneese: yeah... it requires persistence.. last day and a half was stupid..
<lanefu> and appearntly i started this branch 8 day sago
<rneese> I also have to get the evdev screen working
<nekomancer[m]> whatis evdev screen?
<rneese> well for me its not the skel files and then fixing a way to set the usr|lib|deeping|desktop-version
<rneese> its a 11 inch touch lcd
<rneese> have to figure out with updates and builds how to write this file with the correct versioning info
<rneese> so youguys went back to apt-get from apt
<rneese> looking at the changes
<rneese> why
<rneese> apt-get is depriciated
<rneese> they moved to just apt
<rneese> they say it is but is not
<bd1308> apt-get is on its way out, but apt-get will be around for quite a bit still
<lanefu> pro-tip.... `apt-cache search` is waay faster on armbian than `apt search`
<lanefu> need to figure out how to disable fulltext search from default
<bd1308> yeeeeah it's SOOOOO slow doing it right from apt
<nekomancer[m]> is it possible to upgrade working armbian system from buster to bullseye?
<bd1308> that's a good question! I was kinda curious about that too
<nekomancer[m]> without image recreation?
<bd1308> i've done that before a long time ago with Debian, I havent' actually done that with Armbian on ARM yet
<rneese> you can do a dist upgrade but I would shake in my boots
<rneese> but you have to update /etc/apt files
<rneese> and if it breaks it breaks because it will not have all the armbian patches
<rneese> you better off maing a list of apps backing up settings and grabbing a fresh img
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<lanefu> this new htop is awesome
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<rneese> i wonder how the .10 kernel mods will play on the t4
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<rneese> but I am hoping to get the n2+ soon and test
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<rneese> ok well I am looking at the defaults it looks like just adding a wall paper and few other thins
<rneese> but no major big changes thus far
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<rneese> ok just saw budgie desktop its almost a clone of dde
<rneese> wow
<rneese> does not look as polishes but looks nice
<rneese> might have to port it also
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<rneese> ok wow
<rneese> so budgie looks like my next after this
<rneese> then we can have 2 great desktops
<rneese> unless someone else gets to it
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<lanefu> woohooo
<archetech> has official arm backing now too
<lanefu> yeah tis good news
<rneese> installing budgie on a sd now just to see
<rneese> on a 2nd t4
<rneese> check on it in am night
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<nekomancer[m]> how to see usb wifiadapter driver/model?
<nekomancer[m]> kernel I build myself from trunk not detect it, but kernel from repository detect and work.
<archetech> too this mr rneese is focused on obscure DE's gnome and kde are what majority will want then xfce
<archetech> too bad *
<archetech> if panfrost works decent its kde time for me next month
<nekomancer[m]> kde still not good with wayland
<archetech> on LFS ofc
<rneese> new mali driver
<rneese> nice
<archetech> I have kde apps running on weston-wayland quite well
<archetech> using xwayland
<rneese> well I installed ubuntu-budgie-dessktop but can not login
<archetech> on rock64
<rneese> ok
<rneese> as the t4 uses the 3399 thats good
<lanefu> nekomancer[m]: did you build with EXTRAWIFI=yes
<nekomancer[m]> no... but I hope it's default
<nekomancer[m]> Now I want to look for driver and seek it in my kernel cobfig
<lanefu> hmm sorry dont have any quick ideas
<lanefu> gonna sleep
<nekomancer[m]> sweet dreams!
* nekomancer[m] too
<Tony_mac32> Hallo?
<nekomancer[m]> mrr
<Tony_mac32> haha what?
<nekomancer[m]> good morning!
<Tony_mac32> It is still evening, I'm in the same time zone as Lanefu who apparently requires sleep
<Tony_mac32> ;-)
<Tony_mac32> ok, dug out my mqmaker MiQi, let's see if it will boot this 2020.07 rubbish,
<Tony_mac32> or whether the filesystem will disappear
<nekomancer[m]> my fresh N2 image have hoice in `/var/log/syslog` every 10 seconds
<Tony_mac32> oh that's fun
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<Tony_mac32> nope, MiQi dumps out at initramfs as well
<Tony_mac32> wtf
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<Werner> Good morning
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<Tony_mac32> Good morning
<Tony_mac32> and good night XD
<Werner> Good night Tony
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<IgorPec> good morning
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<cart> I will try again! Anyone having experience with a MxqPro+ 4k device?
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @6LR61 @troglobit Alternative solutions :) https://t.co/AL60ly3NOh https://t.co/y7sNZFrMkv (6s ago)
<lanefu> IgorPec: lol ihad forgotten to do git push for that copy command.. anyway your fix matches what i had locally
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<ArmbianTwitter> @6LR61 (Adrian): @armbian @troglobit Haha, it took me a while to notice the SBCs hanging from the Ethernet cords. The ones in the rack seem to have standsoffs holding one or two corner together? Checking with my boards the BPi M2 would stack with the M1 and one corner of an OPi PC+ :/ (15s ago)
<lanefu> IgorPec: i added some updates to my forum post about gotchas.... there's some weird u-boot stuff going on once you nand-sata-install... very slow boot and can't boot from sdcard after emmc has been flashed
<lanefu> nekomancer[m]: did you install that test image to emmc when sleep broke your pbp?
<lanefu> Once it gets past uboot and kernel loads its fast. Bd1308 has some console logs showing uboot reading init image at like 8K/sec
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @6LR61 @troglobit Yes. Or on power cords. Boards that are same dimensions are fully attached with stand offs and some of them mounted to the rack. (28s ago)
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<rneese> cart thats a android tv box ...
<rneese> lefu ok wait
<rneese> you here lanefu
<rneese> when you install to nand/emmc/ssd you normaly set it to use the emmc as /boot and the ssd/nvme as /
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<rneese> it should boot majpr fast
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<rneese> I never managed to get it to boot from sd/nvme had issues
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<nekomancer[m]> <lanefu "nekomancer: did you install that"> No, I use sdcard.
<nekomancer[m]> Emmc present and contain working env from vendor
<nekomancer[m]> Maybe update made rom update
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<bd1308_> on the pinebook pro, has anyone ever encountered constant USB connects/disconnects? I went from USB-C video+charging to USB reconnects in about 2 hours last night. I've already isolated the issue to the main board.
<bd1308_> rneese: you mentioned something about a capacitor...is that just for fixing the PBP not booting?
<[TheBug]> bd1308: you running on battery when that occurs?
<[TheBug]> hmm, could be display renegotiaion for some reason
<bd1308_> [TheBug]: yes, but it also occurs when running on AC. I'm currently running Manjaro just as a sanity check
<[TheBug]> did you screen go to sleep or did you turn it off?
<[TheBug]> you noted using video over it is why that comes to mind
<bd1308_> this is just the laptop right now, no external device connected. I see the caps lock led go off and on and then finally it stops altogether and no USB devices are detected
<[TheBug]> anything in dmesg to indicate whats going on?
<[TheBug]> does the device get disabled?
<[TheBug]> or reset
<bd1308_> yeah I see a ton of disconnects and reconnects (about 30 of them) and then it's like the USB bus is just turned off
<bd1308_> and by "device" I mean just the keyboard/trackpad
<[TheBug]> maybe put the dmesg in a pastebin so we can see?
<bd1308_> I grabbed that snippet from using the uart cable
<bd1308_> the rest was normal, and nothing around that block --- it just repeats about ~30 times and then stops
<bd1308_> I isolated the mainboard as the issue (unplugged keyboard + daughterboard) so I'm guessing just some issue with the actual RK3399 board.
<[TheBug]> hmm
<[TheBug]> okay next question
<[TheBug]> heat --
<[TheBug]> you have any way to see if the hub chips getting too hot?
<[TheBug]> usb hubs have a bad habit if they get too hot of that kinda stuff
<[TheBug]> I don't know the cooling solution they have in there but maybe it isn't cooling the usb hub chip enough?
<bd1308_> good point. I suspect its something like that
<[TheBug]> especially since it doesn't happen immediately and only after running for a period of time
<bd1308_> well, now it happens immediately
<[TheBug]> oh
<[TheBug]> well that surely can't be good
<[TheBug]> ;/
<bd1308_> it literally weent from working to wonky, and now it's basically unusable since USB ends up dead in about a minute or two after a cold boot
<[TheBug]> I would make sure to post / let Pine know about that
<bd1308_> thanks [TheBug]
<[TheBug]> maybe they need to replace it, cause that sounds like a faulty chip at this point
<[TheBug]> (usb hub chip)
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<[TheBug]> bd1308: maybe you could locate the chip and throw a small heatsink on it and see if the same issue continues
<[TheBug]> if it does then I would say probably already heat damage to the chip with what your seeing there and maybe they would replace that or something for you
<[TheBug]> you're*
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<rneese> ok IgorPec you want a desktop that runs in 2 gig and has no issues it seems budgie-desktop would be a good one I have it iinstalled on a sd and testing
<rneese> and was easy to install apt install --install-recommends ubuntu-budgie-desktop
<IgorPec> wait. do haven't themed dde yet ;)
<rneese> it gives you a full desktop with libreoffice and geary and some other apps
<IgorPec> and prepare packages .... adding more desktops is too easy
<rneese> I am doing this on 2 diff machines to look at how they respond
<rneese> I took a break
<rneese> to clear the mind of the dde
<IgorPec> ok
<rneese> but if you get time and load it and look its going to be a very clen desktop also
<rneese> dde = qt based and budgie = gnome3 based
<IgorPec> no time
<IgorPec> maintaining new features
<rneese> ok
<IgorPec> is the biggest costs
<IgorPec> development is nice
<rneese> so well what new features working on
<IgorPec> but when you start to provide things, users will start to asks why this and that
<rneese> ok
<IgorPec> AR-200
<ArmbianHelper> AR-200 [Story] "Improving Desktop images" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2020-04-04. Status: To Do
<IgorPec> is a project for several months
<IgorPec> there is lots of work and we can't work on this every day
<rneese> I am working to look at making a armbian-dde-theme pkg
<rneese> what would have icons and wallpaper and sounds
<IgorPec> yes and a script or list of packages needed to be installed on top of CLI
<IgorPec> and keeping this best possible & functional
<rneese> yeah like we have to replace the 1 file for vesioning
<rneese> I had to look at budgie as it is officialy supported by debian and ubuntu where dde is not
<IgorPec> and probably more, like tweaking lightdm
<rneese> yeah
<rneese> seems getting input from dde group is a little harder the budgie .
<rneese> but I will have time for both as I have 6 months of free time
<rneese> so its going to be a good thing to work on this
<rneese> so 1 more thing / question
<rneese> have you looked at downsizing the project to just basic desktop build and leave the rest or is the goal a full working desktop ?
<rneese> just asking
<IgorPec> full working desktop
<nekomancer[m]> <rneese "but I will have time for both as"> well-fare?
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<rneese> ok
<rneese> just was looking at goal and how to make it not kill us all
<rneese> lol
<bootcorruption> Hi, my cubietruck running armbian is not booting (via SD from SATA) any more. Watching the boot process via uart gives me the following error: "Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid" Any recommendations?
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<rneese> igore we need a img for the lightdm login
<rneese> I am going to use their lightdm-there to build ours
<rneese> but we need a img tou want for the login screen
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<IgorPec> bootcorruption: focal?
<IgorPec> rneeese: use lightdm tweaks from current build. ignore colors
<bootcorruption> IgorPec: buster
<IgorPec> hmm, well it could also happen there ... cat /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf | grep COMPRESS=
<IgorPec> if there is lz4 then this is the problem
<IgorPec> which could be changed with update ... but also possible - sd card media corruption
<bootcorruption> IgorPec: sadly it is gzip. Suspecting sd corrpution as well. I have created a secondary card and changed the armbianEnv.txt uuid to match the hdd. This leads me to "Give root password for maintenance"
<bootcorruption> IgorPec does that sound like filesystem damage on the hdd to you? I did backup the hdd with dd, ran badblocks (without errors) and then pushed the dd image back to the disk. so in theory it should be ok.
<IgorPec> initrd is on sd card
<IgorPec> well, dd is not checking what it writes
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<IgorPec> its good when media is 100% perfect
<bootcorruption> IgorPec: how would you proceed? is there a way to create a clean new sd card and tell it to boot the os from the hdd, besides just changing the uuid?
<IgorPec> changing the UUID for kernel para and fstab
<IgorPec> for keeping safe upgrade /boot of your SD card must be mounted to /boot
<bootcorruption> IgorPec: do you mean fstab on hdd or sd? do you know where i can change the kernel para(meters?) I guess the mounting of the sd is also done via fstab then?
<bootcorruption> IgorPec: if I am taking up too much of your time, let me know then I will do a reinstall. Thanks for the project btw!
<IgorPec> rootfs is on HDD so there you change fstab
<IgorPec> boot is your SD card, UUID kernel parameter change there
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<bootcorruption> IgorPec: you are the best! it works now. I did not change any kernel parameter uuid however. you do not mean the rootdev uuid right?
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<IgorPec> yes
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<bootcorruption> thanks again! have a good evening!
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