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<lanefu>
Tonymac32: welcome back
<Tonymac32>
'ello
<Tonymac32>
I see a PR for 5.8 amlogic with no GXL testing, should be sweet. ;-)
<archetech>
gxl?
<Tonymac32>
S905X, S805X
<Tonymac32>
S905 is GX
<Tonymac32>
S912 is GXM
<Tonymac32>
so I'll need to test 4-5 boards
<archetech>
ok try n2 1st
<Tonymac32>
n2 was part of the pr
<Tonymac32>
and frankly not my concern up front, the better-supported hardware takes precedence, then the still WIP-like
<Tonymac32>
Does anyone have an N2 Plus yet?
<archetech>
me
<Tonymac32>
OK. is it ok, or are the differences more than advertised?
<Tonymac32>
I'm going to be seeing if the new RK3399 I've heard about breaks things too fairly soon
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<archetech>
its ok atm
<Tonymac32>
I'm envisioning another "50 shades of RK3288"
<archetech>
upgrade kern w/ armb-cfg is broke
<archetech>
poss itsthe chnage in compression
<Tonymac32>
boot script might get angry, I don't know really
<archetech>
bb in hr to boot mine
<Tonymac32>
I showed my son how to flash LED's in 1979 Microsoft BASIC on a Z80
<Tonymac32>
he will learn the power and responsibility of the GOTO statement
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<lanefu>
Tonymac32: Oooo that's cool! is that from that nifty z80 kit you built
<Tonymac32>
yep
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<Tonymac32>
7 cards, 1 64K RAM/64k paged ROM computer
<Tonymac32>
has the dual SIO and a simple digital I/O card
<Tonymac32>
and a CF card
<lanefu>
so wild and it'll just like ambiguously run things like CP/M n stuff?
<Tonymac32>
I'm running microsoft BASIC for CP/M, wordstar is angry because I don't have the right terminal set up
<Tonymac32>
I might be building a VT100 compatible...
<Tonymac32>
Quite a nice kit
<lanefu>
yeah that's super cool
<Tonymac32>
the crazy part is this is exactly what I set out to build in high school, but unfortunately my self-etched boards and $40 budget were no match
<lanefu>
i never touched CP?M
<lanefu>
you have a link to the kit?
<Tonymac32>
DOS but even older
<lanefu>
i feel like my buddy might appreciate it
<Tonymac32>
it's $$, I used home schooling as a partial excuse LOL
<lanefu>
haha
<lanefu>
he's selling some of his real vintage macs so maybe he'll have some $
<Tonymac32>
oh nice, I can't remember what the main board chunk I'm looking at came out of, I think it ran OS 7
<Tonymac32>
there is a big paged beastie called the ZED as well
<Tonymac32>
runs Z-system CPM. 512k of RAM !!!
<lanefu>
dude i really love the backblane design tho
<Tonymac32>
That is where I about fell out of my chair, I was building exactly that
<Tonymac32>
0.1" pin sockets with data/address/IRQ pins, etc
<Tonymac32>
So nostalgia also demanded I get it
<lanefu>
yeah i bet dude
<Tonymac32>
It more or less everything I wanted to achieve with mine, only real
<Tonymac32>
:P
<Tonymac32>
someone made an ESP32 VGA VT100 terminal for it, I'm not going to use it only because I found a PIC based one that I can build as a kit that fits the rest of the mahcine
<Tonymac32>
socketed DIP packages as far as the eye can see
<Tonymac32>
Once I build mine I'll probably list them on Tindie and sell like 3
<Tonymac32>
:D
<Tonymac32>
There are floppy drive controllers too
<lanefu>
unfortuantely github is too stupid to re-queue jobs
<lanefu>
which ticks me off to no end
<lanefu>
you have to cancel and click re-run
<Werner>
Yep...
<lanefu>
i need to see if someone has a housekeeping script
<lanefu>
i definitely prefer gitlab-ci over github actions
<Werner>
I'll go build a random kernel package and if it gets through w/o errors in lxc I'll copy the runner there and start it again.
<Werner>
Should work oob then
<Werner>
No idea why I did not have this idea earlier...
<lanefu>
i'm using a 38 cpu VM lol
<Werner>
That one has 16 cores only but better than nothing
<lanefu>
yeah that's still pretty good
<Werner>
I am still waiting for a good offer for a 10 core vps which has dedicated epyc cores. Compared with geekbench the 10core vps is more than 50% faster than the 16 cheap vcore version.
<Werner>
But I guess I'll have to wait until december to get that.
<Werner>
s/get/get a chance on
<ArmbianHelper>
Werner meant to say: But I guess I'll have to wait until december to get a chance on that.
<lanefu>
I wish i could give runners weight
<Werner>
I assume they are chosen randomly between idle ones?
<IgorPec>
i will re-add my runner back probably next week.
<Werner>
Runner is back up
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<nekomancer[m]>
<Werner "I'll try to jail it into a lxc c"> currently it saves cache of downloaded files and does compulation with superuser permissions.
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<jock>
hello!
<ArmbianTwitter>
@guidol70 (Guido Lehwalder): #FriendlyARM (Neo) #PCM5102A #DAC Hat at the Raspberry Pi3 as HiFiBerry DAC for using it with #volumio ;) https://t.co/VGWtjIa4Mhhttps://t.co/vHUDgR3sgs (36s ago)
<Werner>
Hey
<Werner>
Paolo, right?
<jock>
yep!
<jock>
I just saw I become a rockchip "maintainer", thanks :)
<Werner>
I can setup an irc bouncer for you and you can also get a project affiliation cloak for your hostname if you like
<jock>
uhm, project affiliation cloak?
<Werner>
do a whois on me or igor for example then you will see
<Werner>
You can compare by simply doing a whois on yourself ;)
<jock>
Does it work even if I have a dynamic IP?
<Werner>
Yes. It is connected to your nickserv account
<jock>
so I get the cloak just by identifying with my nick and password?
<Werner>
correct. IF you like to have it. I cannot simply assign those to people. I have to ask beforehand as requested by freenode
<jock>
well, I'm not really so active on IRC, so don't worry for now
<Werner>
Okay. Well maybe you get a taste for it ;)
<jock>
Even for the bouncer, usually I look to the whitequark logs for previous conversations
<Werner>
The offer is there, just let me know. I can do both in almost no time.
<jock>
of course, I'll ask you whenever I will get hungry :)
<Werner>
awesome :)
<jock>
thanks by the way!
<Werner>
you're welcome
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@A13_technology (∆13🏳️🌈): So the module is not supported in Upstream Linux yet and also not in the @armbian legacy image as the changes to make it work are from the looks of it not in the fork of the Rockchip 4.4 Kernel they maintain, but in the "original" Rockchip legacy Kernel. (18s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@Poddingue (Bruno Verachten 🍰): @A13_technology @armbian It's nice to have a definitive answer regarding the LTE card. Thanks for your work. 👍 (14s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): RT @guidol70: #FriendlyARM (Neo) #PCM5102A #DAC Hat at the Raspberry Pi3 as HiFiBerry DAC for using it with #volumio ;) https://t.co/VGWtj… (12s ago)
<lanefu>
congrats / thank you jock !
<jock>
lanefu: thanks, I will be glad to be helpful!
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<emOne>
Finally my TV has the ability to support 3d mode natively
<lanefu>
you're probably gonna have to set resolution at boot mode
<lanefu>
boot time
<lanefu>
does balbes have any docs for that
<emOne>
lanefu it is doing 1080p@30fps even though the TV doesn't support it
<nekomancer[m]>
emOne: did you ask him on forum?
<emOne>
No I didn't ask him yet
<emOne>
lanefu I believe I have seen the docs to switch display mode in the uboot config file that is included in Balbes' image
<emOne>
I am just wondering why it isn't picking up the real display modes which every other device can do
<emOne>
With this TV
<emOne>
When I switch it to 60hz after I booted it displays everything correctly
<emOne>
(but not during boot)
<emOne>
lanefu the goal is to fix it so it detects the screen mode properly
<lanefu>
shit good lick
<lanefu>
luck
<emOne>
Thank you
<emOne>
I am going to try and boot libreelec with the same uboot and config file
<emOne>
And see what happens
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<emOne>
I was thinking that maybe instead of trying to bend uboot
<emOne>
I should try to see the truth
<emOne>
What truth you may ask?
<emOne>
That there is no uboot
<emOne>
Only then will I see that it is not uboot that bends
<emOne>
But myself
<emOne>
Intimacy
<emOne>
Into me I see
<emOne>
Philosophy lesson is over
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@jaakkodotio (Jaakko Niemi): @FatiWahab @armbian I'm just running Debian on my Odroids. (19s ago)
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<jock>
going to sleep, see you guys!
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@rasp_ap (RaspAP 📡): Installing RaspAP on the tiniest board in @therockpi family: the Rock Pi S with @armbian https://t.co/5Ww303QMIA #armbian #IoT #WiFi https://t.co/89TMZ1fL6C (23s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): RT @rasp_ap: Installing RaspAP on the tiniest board in @therockpi family: the Rock Pi S with @armbian https://t.co/5Ww303QMIA #armbian #IoT… (26s ago)
<R0b0t1``>
I can do it myself but keep coming up with nothing for boot process
<IgorPec>
and our budget is exactly 0$
<R0b0t1``>
I mean... you are here talking to me, and you are wasting entire cents doing so
<R0b0t1``>
so budget is not 0
<R0b0t1``>
if I am wanting to do it myself I am unsure why you are asking about budget
<IgorPec>
if you are asking for help
<buZz>
hehe , IgorPec4rent
<IgorPec>
no, i don't have time
<buZz>
arent all rk3399 somewhat alike in their boot partitions etc?
<IgorPec>
this is "we" job in any case
<IgorPec>
study the docs
<R0b0t1``>
buZz: yeah that is why I asked for some general info, I was hoping someone had familiarity with it
<buZz>
i have no rk3399 , sorry, donate me one and maybe i'll take a look
<buZz>
:P
<R0b0t1``>
if not, then obviously I am not expecting an answer ...
<IgorPec>
a lot of things are familiar around those boards, yeah
<IgorPec>
but if you want to get this board up and running ... armbian does not support this hw, case closed
<buZz>
i do like friendlyarm
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<R0b0t1``>
yeah I bought some of their other boards, which were supported by armbian and had better vendor support
<R0b0t1``>
a little disappointed with this one
<Ntemis>
what you want to know exactly?
<IgorPec>
support armbian and we will support you
<buZz>
Ntemis: he's trying to find the boot partition
<Ntemis>
on ubuntu?
<R0b0t1``>
well I had mini-epiphany, the chip firmware might show up via an ADB compatible device
<buZz>
on a rk3399
<Ntemis>
not clear enough tbh
<R0b0t1``>
Ntemis: basically none of the /dev/mmc* devices have a file system save root and the sdcard
<R0b0t1``>
so I'm a little puzzled as to what they are actually doing
<Ntemis>
you are searching for the bootloader?
<R0b0t1``>
/boot is not in /
<Ntemis>
what your boot script/extlinux.conf say?
<IgorPec>
bootloader has nothing to do with linux
<R0b0t1``>
well, yes and no, I really just want to get the kernel built for now and make it bootable
<R0b0t1``>
I assume the info will be close together
<Ntemis>
do you have anything running on that board atm or not?
<Ntemis>
this is getting a little confusing
<R0b0t1``>
since I started looking again away from friendlyarm docs I think I am right: there is proprietary USB protocol that chip firmware uses to mess with the non-fs mmc partitions
<IgorPec>
have you tried to ask google "rk3399 boot process"
<R0b0t1``>
yeah I do
<IgorPec>
bootloader is outside filesystem, ofc
<Ntemis>
yes ofc
<Ntemis>
so he is searching for the kernel
<Ntemis>
just use mainline if that is what you are after
<Ntemis>
rk3399 are well supported by mainline and panfrost
<IgorPec>
just panfrost is fairly unstable
<Ntemis>
nah ogles v2.x works fine
<IgorPec>
stable?
<Ntemis>
sure
<IgorPec>
or works?
<Ntemis>
stable on 20.1.6
<IgorPec>
have to check. last time it was not working very well
<Ntemis>
what version?
<IgorPec>
don't recall
<IgorPec>
20.1.6 is very fresh
<Ntemis>
indeed
<Ntemis>
@R0b0t1`` for bootloader you have 2 ways to function
<Ntemis>
the easiest is with idbspl.img & u-boot.itb
<Ntemis>
builded from mainline u-boot 2020.07 stable