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<lanefu>
any easy tricks to get a u-boot on emmc to boot from sdcard?
<lanefu>
Pinebook pro boot order is spi,emmc,sdcard
<lanefu>
majaro image has a software bootloader doing some magic
<nekomancer[m]>
when my pinebook pro was alive, it boot from sdcard if it present, and from emmc if no sdcard. It was very useful for me.
<lanefu>
yeah that was actually manjaro boot from EMMC and then boot sdcard
<nekomancer[m]>
there was no manjaro on my pbp. it was old debian or armbian I got from vendor
<IgorPec>
whatever the naming will be. i can't come up with any straightforward idea
<IgorPec>
probably need yet another coffe
<Miouyouyou>
Yeah. I'd like to be sure that the whole structure works for the maintainers first. "special" might be a better name
<Miouyouyou>
or "snowflake"
<IgorPec>
or custom
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<IgorPec>
overlay?
<IgorPec>
nah
<Miouyouyou>
Custom yeah
<Miouyouyou>
Yeah, both could work
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<Miouyouyou>
Might need a poll for that
<IgorPec>
hehe
<IgorPec>
also softwares vs packages
<IgorPec>
what is more intuative
<Miouyouyou>
Anyway, the new system can accept an arbitrary number of desktop configurations and software groups (categories ?)
<IgorPec>
ok, but not sure if we need more fragmenting at this point?
<Miouyouyou>
The system seem to require a lot of folders and files at first, but that could be fixed with symlinks for repeating patterns
<IgorPec>
ofc. i am just thinking how to not generate confusion here
<Miouyouyou>
Well files and folders not needed don't need to be there
<Miouyouyou>
I just added example files for testing
<IgorPec>
usually grouping in 3 is best if possible
<Miouyouyou>
By default, most files can be removed
<IgorPec>
i know. i try to imaginge the real world
<IgorPec>
aha, so one can add a new category with the same structure ?
<IgorPec>
or remove it if not needed "Editors" for example
<IgorPec>
on particular desktop
<Miouyouyou>
Yes
<IgorPec>
ok. then just a better name for "softwares"
<IgorPec>
groups
<IgorPec>
packages
<IgorPec>
and combination of that :)
<Miouyouyou>
appgroups ?
<IgorPec>
perhaps
<IgorPec>
sounds better than softwares
<Miouyouyou>
groups could do too
<IgorPec>
app is better. it implies that software is there
<IgorPec>
groups is to general
<IgorPec>
appgroups
<Miouyouyou>
Yeah, people see apps as actual softwares they can use
<IgorPec>
yes, even packages can technically be libraries
<IgorPec>
and not apps
<IgorPec>
but i don't see this as a problem
<Miouyouyou>
I'll see if people come up with other ideas on Jira
<Miouyouyou>
I'll try to open a thread on the forum also
<IgorPec>
we do need to do some promotion
<IgorPec>
yes
<IgorPec>
now its something to see and its the right time to come up with ideas to change things
<Miouyouyou>
Since this requires a lot of testing
<IgorPec>
yeah
<Miouyouyou>
I'll try to open a documented thread this weekend (how to test, how it works ATM, how to modify and test things, ...)
<IgorPec>
good! overall it seems good
<Miouyouyou>
Today I need to test Docker + Tensorflow + GPU for a client
<IgorPec>
on orangepi? :)
<Miouyouyou>
And I might have to do an install for a client tomorrow
<Miouyouyou>
Of course
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<IgorPec>
ok, thanks for the update
<Miouyouyou>
I'll just find some Usb 2 to PCIE3x16 on taobao and this should do the trick :3
<IgorPec>
lol
<Miouyouyou>
You're welcome 😺
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): The #amd #ryzen 7 3700X really kicks ass in comparison to a 16 vcore VPS....I love it 😌 #armbian #netcup (20s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@LarisaChen15 (Larisa Chen): #orangepi4 + mpcie marvell quad port sata controller + intel 120GB ssd. + armbian . COOL! can auto detect the sata controller and ssd.. possible ti built a nas #DIY #orangepi4 #SBC #minipc #RK3399 #opensource #Android #Linux #embedhardware #embedsystem #iot #maker https://t.co/ybK9Nb0R2w (6s ago)
<[TheBug]>
yes.. cept RockPi 4 implementation seems a lot nicer imo
<[TheBug]>
re: that tweet
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<IgorPec>
werner: you upgrade your machine?:)
<Werner>
Um no?
<IgorPec>
"The #amd #ryzen 7 3700X really kicks ass in comparison to a 16 vcore VPS....I love it "
<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): RT @LarisaChen15: #orangepi4 + mpcie marvell quad port sata controller + intel 120GB ssd. + armbian . COOL! can auto detect the sata contro… (3s ago)
<Werner>
I actually compared my home pc against that vps. So unfortunately no upgrades :(
<IgorPec>
ahaa :)
<IgorPec>
btw. i started to think about our main build machine upgrade
<Werner>
x86 is proven to work. Not sure what we run into when having to deal with an arm build server
<IgorPec>
i know that
<IgorPec>
its going into unknown
<IgorPec>
best would be to have two high end machines :)
<IgorPec>
one arm and one amd
<Werner>
Better try getting one for now :D
<IgorPec>
yeah, next year
<IgorPec>
we will see how current infrastructure will hold up after desktops are added
<IgorPec>
it will be more compilation then
<rneese>
igore I am almost done with the lightdm-gtk-armbian-theme
<rneese>
I will give you the repo once tested
<IgorPec>
great. check todays irc logs -8h
<IgorPec>
we had some update from myy
<rneese>
ok
<rneese>
the lightdm theme is not that hard. then I have to figure out how we can edit the usr|lib|deeping|desktop-version
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<rneese>
to set the right version
<IgorPec>
how do you mean how to edit?
<IgorPec>
just replace the text after installation is done. the problem might be that this will probably be overwritten when deepin packages are updated but with that we can deal later
<rneese>
no that file is only retouched when you do a pkg update
<rneese>
yes
<rneese>
ok
<rneese>
well finishing the lightdm theme then working on a theme for dde-armbian
<rneese>
forcing me to learn alot fast
<IgorPec>
take it easy or you will be waiting us
<rneese>
lol
<IgorPec>
and this part is enjoyable. so enjoy ;)
<rneese>
I did find a bug in the dde pkgs they are fixing now
<rneese>
also working to make a new ubuntudde-dde-desktop and desktop-full that will make installing alot easier
<rneese>
I wish all the desktops did this so making installs was easier
<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): Hey @netcup. Ever considered supporting some software development projects that tinker with #arm architecture like @armbian? (9s ago)
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<nekomancer[m]>
torrents now not used for gcc?
<IgorPec>
no, we had some issues and throw them out
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@netcup (netcup GmbH): @DieZuckerbude @armbian Dear Ben, we do support non-profit organisations under certain circumstances. If a project is interested in sponsoring by us, they can get in touch with us by mail (mail@netcup.de) and we will discuss how we can support: https://t.co/phrmWiCOpo Kind regards, Lars. (7s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @netcup @armbian Good to know. Awesome. (5s ago)
<Werner>
IgorPec, wanna ask netcup for a build server 64+ cores? :P
<IgorPec>
do they have it?
<IgorPec>
i think this will not be that simple
<Werner>
There is only one way to find out. They offer vps on epyc basis but their biggest one for public sale has 10 dedicated cores. can be compared to a ryzen 3600 with geekbench5
<IgorPec>
but for building this is nothing
<Werner>
True. But as most companies if you do some talking you can learn what they also have to offer
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<IgorPec>
we can probably get something from them, but not 20.000 EUR valued service out of nothing
<IgorPec>
they don't know us
<Werner>
Something is often better than nothing and asking by itself is usually free ;)
<IgorPec>
consider that i also know people at intel and i only need to ask them. chanches to get something are much bigger since we know each other in person
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<IgorPec>
its always the cost of negotiation. if i will blow weeks and get VPS for 50E its not wortth even starting
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<Werner>
true
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<IgorPec>
so, there is no rush
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<Werner>
Would be good enough for a Github runner though.
<IgorPec>
i have two xeon servers now hooked for that. Not sure if they are active
<IgorPec>
if we need to get something, high end epyc is the only option
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<IgorPec>
other things are just a little better and its not worth investing time
<IgorPec>
to deal with
<IgorPec>
in a past two months we were completly torn down the infrastructure