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<rneese>
lanefu, you there or asleep
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<rneese>
ok ok need input IgorPec for adding pkgs
<rneese>
like filezilla and qbittorrent thunderbird
<rneese>
do I make a dir called internet and add packages file with them in it
<rneese>
or is there specific dir you want
<rneese>
like browser has chromium-browser and firefox
<rneese>
i have been reding the doc but the apps is not well defined
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<rneese>
my first dde build is runnign
<rneese>
we will see how it goes
<rneese>
IgorPec, you can review what I have done
<rneese>
but I added budgie and dde
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<lanefu>
rneese: sup
<rneese>
you worked on the pbp img
<rneese>
I need help with what you did to get the edp port to work
<rneese>
so I can get it working on the t4
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<lanefu>
nothing :)
<lanefu>
my buddy used it on his
<rneese>
i have a edp touch screen
<rneese>
what bl env did you set
<rneese>
to activate it
<lanefu>
like i said. did nothing..
<lanefu>
but let me send you a link to something that might help
<flyback>
you get to find out how much ower draw something is to figure out what size psu or battery you need
<lanefu>
flyback: yeah its a great little board. ram is actually 2 chips so you get good ddr performance.....i use an opi lite as a ttl console for other boards
<lanefu>
wow
<flyback>
you find out that 2 cables can drastically differ in charge rate. and
<rneese>
I might have some patching to do
<flyback>
you also find out that some usb hard drives are good citizens
<flyback>
meaning when they detect they are on a usb 1.x/2.0 port they actually change performance so they stay within 500ma max
<flyback>
*AND*
<flyback>
you find out what usb hubs actually honor external power and stop sucing from host
<flyback>
these $12 modules I bought 2 of paid for themselves the first day just playing wiht them
<flyback>
hehhe
<rneese>
I take its all kernel patches
<flyback>
also lets you find out what devices are dip shitted and prone to frying stuff
<flyback>
BEFORE you plug it into your nice embedded board
<rneese>
crap this is killing me
<flyback>
meese don't worry you will get it :)
<flyback>
I think pinebook uses allwinner chips also
<flyback>
I ay be weong
<rneese>
no it uses a rk3399
<flyback>
ah
<rneese>
the pinebook-pro
<lanefu>
original pinebook was allwinner A64... pinebook pro is rk3399
<flyback>
yeah I dunno how well rock chips are supported in linux
<flyback>
:/
<flyback>
allwinner looks like they are trying to
<rneese>
its looking like the kernel /bl have to be fixed for the edp
<flyback>
ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN "IMAGINATION TECHNOLOGIES"
<flyback>
the company is such NDA assholes, even microsoft stopped working with them
<flyback>
yeah I am sure they are great but 64 bit was overkill for spyserver
<flyback>
espically it's just going to take the usb packets from a rtl-sdr module in the garage where my big rotator antenna is, and stream it over wifi to my house
<lanefu>
rneese: i hear my server fans spooled up
<rneese>
building the kernel/bl pinebook pro
<lanefu>
whats bl?
<rneese>
bootloader
<rneese>
uboot
<lanefu>
oh
<flyback>
but yeah those usb meters are great for giving you some ballpark power usuage fifgures so you can compute your budget
<flyback>
hell I would have bought one just to test my hack I did 11 yrs ago on a xmas tree
<flyback>
came out 200MA@5v, far less than the origional 10w halogen bulb and color wheel
<flyback>
so I dunno if i will be able to contribute any code any time soon but I can defintely give out hw advice :)
<nekomancer[m]>
no snow
<lanefu>
gonna crash see y'all later
<rneese>
ok going to bed pick this up in am fresh brain
<rneese>
but I need to get the edp port working on the t4
<rneese>
gn
<flyback>
gn
<Werner>
Good morning
<nekomancer[m]>
good morning
<flyback>
morning? BMCC!
* flyback
hurls a canadian at Werner
<Werner>
Haha
<flyback>
:P
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<Tonymac_32>
lol flyback I've only seen that level of hatred for Imagination from a select few other people. But I definitely feel it.
<Tonymac_32>
So Oleg's image booted the MiQi, but I dont' see a lot of config differences to our kernel. I might have to comb through the patches and see what ones touch power supplies and/or the mmc code, something Uboot was or was not doing before is now a problem
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<Heisath>
Morning
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): RT @InnerJason: As of yesterday, k3s-ansible should now be working on #Armbian devices 🎉. #kubernetes #k3s (14s ago)
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<Heisath>
Does the automated build check on github also place full images somewhere? Than it would be even easier to test changes. https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/2222
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<Heisath>
emOne maybe fix your connection?
<IgorPec>
you mean those from pull request CI?
<Heisath>
jep. I assume not because of storage reasons.
<IgorPec>
its planned, but not sure if done already
<IgorPec>
Heisath: i know there were some changes regarding this, at least in mvebu64 doesn't work this way anymore
<Heisath>
I was confused, because it seems to work for eth1,2 and only fails for eth0.
<IgorPec>
eth0 is random or some fixed id?
<Heisath>
Just hogged my testing network, because I booted helios4 and clearfog at the same time and both got the same MAC (instead of the different ones in armbianEnv).
<Heisath>
Seems fixed, probably by the uboot
<IgorPec>
yeah probably
<IgorPec>
removing setting eth0 mac solves the issue, right?
<IgorPec>
probably we could remove them all?
<Heisath>
not sure.
<Heisath>
I'll try to figure this out. On 20.08 everything worked as supposed (mac settable via armbianEnv)
<Heisath>
Ah it is the default address set by boot.cmd before the import armbianEnv.txt is run.
<IgorPec>
ok, try removing them and see they are set
<Heisath>
That might actually be my problem, uboot seems to f'u loading armbianEnv.
<Heisath>
But anything above uboot2018 is a struggle on clearfog anyway.
<IgorPec>
yeah, we don't need to push it
<IgorPec>
just kernel upgrade to 5.8.y and that's it i guess
<Heisath>
jep thats what I'm trying next. Would've been nice though
<IgorPec>
the problem is that u-boot must support all sorts of variants
<IgorPec>
emmc, sd, sata, m2
<IgorPec>
and this u-boot is known to work
<Heisath>
yeah also newer uboot breaks pcie which is some core functionality on clearfog
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<IgorPec>
well, then strongly against pimping u-boot :)
<rneese>
?
<rneese>
morning back
<rneese>
so I posted a msg on the repo /request
<rneese>
for the new desktop build
<rneese>
so where and how to add the ppa correctly so I can run a build of dde
<rneese>
ok IgorPec what is needed to mirror the dde ppa repo
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<IgorPec>
rneese: can we script it?
<rneese>
the issue is has to be added to the build server and to the img source.list.d dir
<rneese>
thats what I asked on github was is there a way to add a file called repo that you list special repos /ppa into to be used and added
<rneese>
I am still reading the build system line for eline as I go to learn
<rneese>
but there is no real docs on how to add custom repos because it looks like the build system was never geared for it
<archetech_>
Ive done it for git repos its set in a file somewhere in the builder dir
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<IgorPec>
currently there was not support for custom repo
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<rneese>
so we have to add it
<IgorPec>
for base system you usually don't need it ... in the user costomization part
<IgorPec>
now we will sort this somehow
<IgorPec>
perhaps we will mirror needed packages but for that we also need to do some scripting
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<rneese>
well if we mirror the repo and add that like the armbian repo
<rneese>
so that we have pkgs
<IgorPec>
that's one option, but we need to keep it up2date
<archetech>
ok that has to sit on top of armbian-builder right ? or is it some standalone thing?
<archetech>
ok its on top of the current builder
<archetech>
thought so so that can be either bionic or focal I suggest you use focal is what im saying But if its lanes server you are stuck vs having your own
<archetech>
i.e. you just adding to/modifying the builder so DE's can be included in an image
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<rneese>
it is to become the new builder
<rneese>
once we get desktops tested
<rneese>
testing the bugdie build now
<rneese>
if it works then we can move on it
<rneese>
the goal os to allow for diff desktops to be built
<rneese>
so if someone wants lxde they build a lxde img
<rneese>
but in the furutre you sould use the base img and then install the desktop youwant
<archetech>
I get what you're doing ...you dont get what i'm saying
<archetech>
ya got errors posted in here an hr ago
<rneese>
yes I am looking to try and load up a focal build unit
<rneese>
and retest
<rneese>
but I have to see if I have the money in the account
<archetech>
linode is pretty cheap if ya dont have the hardware
<archetech>
armbian has one online I thought for public use
<rneese>
well as arm becoomes where desktops are moving having more desktops allows for people to select the desktop they like
<rneese>
so far the budgie build is working
<Heisath>
IgorPec, I investigated the MAC address bug further: The uboot uses the armbianEnv.txt only after one reboot. On first boot with new image the defaults from boot.cmd are used.
<Heisath>
Don't know how that happens, I will create a issue on github/jira. Don't have time to look into it further
<archetech>
hmm I hope this is all that was wrong sudo systemctl start armbian-zram-config
<archetech>
Disk /dev/zram0: 50 MiB, 52428800 bytes, 12800 sectors
<rneese>
Errors were encountered while processing:
<rneese>
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
<rneese>
ca-certificates-java
<rneese>
ok time to get a updated builder
<lanefu>
what'd i do this time
<archetech>
heh
<rneese>
it seems that the builder gives some errors because the repo does not have pkgs for bionic
<rneese>
and it just failed the budgie build
<rneese>
(appstreamcli:20142): GLib-ERROR **: 13:57:30.767: getauxval () failed: No such file or directory
<ArmbianHelper>
AR-451 [Sub-task] "Bug: volume keys don't work with Ubuntu, but work in bullseye" reported by Lane Jennison at 2020-09-29. Status: To Do
<rneese>
running new build brb
<rneese>
then can go over log
<IgorPec>
lanefu: that's minor issue, well
<rneese>
lanefu, when you going to do a os update lol
<rneese>
your slacking
<rneese>
heheh
<lanefu>
rneese: OS update? bionic is fine to build from it's what i use
<rneese>
then its justa repo issue we have to figure out
<rneese>
on dde build
<IgorPec>
rneese: i made a mirror
<rneese>
the buudgie is building
<rneese>
ok
<rneese>
that was fast
<IgorPec>
packages will be at our repo, focal desktop only
<lanefu>
archetech: qemu is relyin on bin_fmt to automagically emulate on arm processse
<lanefu>
VM i gave him was an ubuntu cloud image, that as a minimal keerneel meaent for cloud, which doeesnt have binfmt support
<archetech>
ok so glib was erroring due to qemu like the link said gotcha
<archetech>
btw your welcome
<archetech>
see thats helping others not hey poke around some more youll find it
<lanefu>
dude common. we all have different levels of bandwidth.. we all have different capacity and different timese.. and sometimes breadcrumbs is all we can give and its better than nothing'
<archetech>
just sayin
<lanefu>
you sure are
<rneese>
ok everyone to corners
<rneese>
time out
<rneese>
take your meds and sit down
<rneese>
lol
<lanefu>
rneese: ahead of you by 20 minutes
<rneese>
lol
<rneese>
ok so are you willing to build and test a budgie img on the pbp
<rneese>
installed ca-certificates-java package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
<rneese>
so we have a pkg issue
<lanefu>
i wonder if running java JVM via qemu is a bad time
<lanefu>
where's tehe java certificat depenency coming from anyway
<lanefu>
i'd eliminate that
<rneese>
I have to find out whats installing java
<archetech>
getting the uboot version is hard since its not accessible after boot
<rneese>
./usr/bin/head: cannot open '/etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts' for reading: No such file or directory
<rneese>
so we have to find what pkgs installs java
<lanefu>
archetech: yeah it is.. all my googling told me to just do the strings trick... maybe try smaller block size or something
<archetech>
strings needs a var that ubbot sends the data to during loading
<archetech>
why you can see it idk
<archetech>
I can boot with the serial reader
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<maximilliangreat>
Hi all!
<maximilliangreat>
After installation, armbian asked if I want a locale based on my location. Great! Now I cant type anything userfull in console. How do I switch keyboard layout?
<maximilliangreat>
Things like ctrl+shift or capslock do not switch layout/
<IgorPec>
armbian-config
<IgorPec>
-> personal and change to something else
<maximilliangreat>
I cant write english letter in console with curret layout.
<IgorPec>
and what kind of layout you have?
<maximilliangreat>
russian
<IgorPec>
mmm, that can be challanging :) well, we have to fix this then
<IgorPec>
I think CTRL-C should work when doing that detection
<maximilliangreat>
so there is no shortcut for switching layout?
<IgorPec>
not that I am aware
<IgorPec>
i can only disable automatic or do it different way
<IgorPec>
first run without ethernet is also one of the workaround
<maximilliangreat>
Whell it asked me about layout. Now i'll reinstall and will chose "No"
<Heisath>
yeah try that.
<Heisath>
I had the issue recently that I could not select anything at the prompt
<IgorPec>
if you will not have internet at that time, it will not know where you are
<IgorPec>
this is bullet proof
<Heisath>
jep w/o internet it worked. But w/ internet it has a [Y/n] prompt but I could not enter anything via serial console
<IgorPec>
aha, true ... ok, then we need to change this
<IgorPec>
but what would be better way?
<maximilliangreat>
better way would to have shortcut to switch keyboard layout :)
<IgorPec>
... locales are set at first boot and it would be best to set them there. The case is that for most of the people works right
<ArmbianHelper>
. locales are set at first boot and it would be best to set them there. The case is that for most of the people works right [en~>eng]
<Heisath>
maybe check on another board/build if the prompt works there? Perhaps I did something wrong. Apart from that I would leave it as is. No internet->default locale, Internet -> Prompt / Autoselect.
<IgorPec>
or create ANG + detected
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<IgorPec>
AR-45 2
<ArmbianHelper>
AR-45 [Story] "Make first login more user friendly" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2019-11-15. Status: Done
<IgorPec>
AR-452
<ArmbianHelper>
AR-452 [Task] "Fix first boot locales selection and add desktop lang switching" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2020-09-29. Status: To Do
<rneese>
trying to find out what pkg uses jre is a pain
<nekomancer[m]>
IgorPec: did you use non-latinic-based layouts in console? if yes — is it possible to do anything having *only* this layout? at least for cyrillic layouts — definitely not.
<rneese>
still no go on the build
<nekomancer[m]>
propose some asian layputs too.
<nekomancer[m]>
I want to say: bad idea.
<rneese>
running a fresh runn again
<IgorPec>
neko: i don't understand what is the problem?
<nekomancer[m]>
if man have only "ru" layout afterfirst run — there no way to fix it.
<nekomancer[m]>
impossible to run any command, because linux not have commands in russian.
<IgorPec>
so we disable this for russian, chinese, ... what else?
<IgorPec>
so how to fix this?
<nekomancer[m]>
not set keyboard layout at all. possible to propose text "run armbianconfig→personsal→lamguage to add your keyboard" or like that"
<nekomancer[m]>
and — I got "lv" layout, and try to change it with armbian-config... but it not work for keyboard.
<nekomancer[m]>
happily "lv" is latin-based, then I can "just work in console".
<nekomancer[m]>
and, who knows how to use console layouts at all?
* nekomancer[m]
work with computers from 88 — but since DOS not use language-specific locales in console.
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<nekomancer[m]>
not I, nobody I know — just can't switch between locales in console. they newer use it.
<nekomancer[m]>
all locale-related — GUI, desktop, remote terminal etc. Not console itself.
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<nekomancer[m]>
(it only about keyboard)
<nekomancer[m]>
I propose don't toush keyboard at all, or add locale-specific layout to "us", and keep us default.
<nekomancer[m]>
if it possible...
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: how is this keyboard/locale thing normally solved..ex: fresh x86 install of debian or ubuntu in a VM
<rneese>
no go
<rneese>
i change dthe line in the bootstap
<nekomancer[m]>
there are interacctive labguage choosers, separate for keyboard and messages, and always default is "don't touch layout".
<rneese>
for the rpo
<rneese>
but no go
<nekomancer[m]>
so, main problem now are: 1. change to non-us by default and 2. it's very,very fast! change timeout to 15-30 second — and 90% of WTF will gone.
<nekomancer[m]>
or make whitelist of countries. and insert there western europe and americas. keep outside cyrillic part of eastern europe and asia.
<nekomancer[m]>
or change only of "y" pressed. And keep engllish it not touch.
<nekomancer[m]>
it's my opinion only.
<rneese>
IgorPec, whats the command to use beta
<rneese>
I might be building wron
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<rneese>
I want to build upa terminal system I like the idea of a central server with clients
<rneese>
the best way to go
<nekomancer[m]>
<[TheBug] "virtual machine inside virtual m"> did sound works?
<[TheBug]>
yes.... but...
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<[TheBug]>
since it uses pulseaudio its okay for notifications and similar
<[TheBug]>
but not really video playback at least not like you would watch a movie
<[TheBug]>
maybe a short clip
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<[TheBug]>
if I need to do that I have an H3 running H3Droid on a screen above or I drop back to RPi 4 and run it direct
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<[TheBug]>
my setup is 4 screens
<[TheBug]>
2x 27" 1x32" and 1x24" that shows my monitoring all the time
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<[TheBug]>
2 for workstation, one for media, one for monitoring
<nekomancer[m]>
<[TheBug] "but not really video playback at"> life is sad
<[TheBug]>
I mean you can watch it just experience won't be great
<[TheBug]>
depending on what its decoding quality of video and audio vary inside the VM
<[TheBug]>
so its okay for maybe 2 minute clip
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<[TheBug]>
but you try to watch full video it will lag and chop etc
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<[TheBug]>
works great for those pop-up ad videos that are inserted into about every news site now :facepalm:
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<rneese>
lanefu, you home yet
<[TheBug]>
hes probably having dinner
<[TheBug]>
where I am gonna head soon
<rneese>
dinner dinner he dont need no stining dinner
<rneese>
lol
<rneese>
stining/stinking
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<lanefu>
rneese: sup
<Tonymac_32>
lol [TheBug]
<Tonymac_32>
My VIM1 is laying around, like my pile of H3's, KR3328's, 4-5 Tinker Boards, 2 RockPro64's etc
<nekomancer[m]>
miso
<Tonymac_32>
I have some of these doing BOINC number crunching with Rosetta anyway
<lanefu>
Tonymac_32: yeah i need to resume my SBC relay.. and maybe use the network drops I added
<Tonymac_32>
I need to test the Renegade Elite with new kernel and compare device tree to PBP, I want that DP working
<Tonymac_32>
At least I think it has DP over Type-C
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<lanefu>
Tonymac_32: I think you and rneese have similar dreams
<Tonymac_32>
Type-C, the opposite of or a micro-B: Mechanically pretty solid, protocol/standards garbage
<Tonymac_32>
(ignoring that USB has always been protocol garbage)
<Tonymac_32>
lanefu it should be doable, but I need to keep on a single task, I will give the Tinker U-boot another night of consideration before jumping to something else
<Tonymac_32>
then I need to see if I can mainline the Tinker Edge R XD
<lanefu>
Tonymac_32: did you see piotr got PBP onto new u-boot?
<Tonymac_32>
it also has DP over Type-C, so that can be inparallel with the R.E. and the T4
<Tonymac_32>
I did, need to test
<Tonymac_32>
then my name got attached to a Jira ticket, need to do that
<Tonymac_32>
someone I know seems to have bricked an N2, we're not sure why
<rneese>
?
<rneese>
well I want to get the edp port on the t4 working
<rneese>
lanefu, th pbp budgie img is about done
<rneese>
you can pull it from the build server and test
<rneese>
at the min I would test but eno edp so I can not use the 11 inch screen
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<[TheBug]>
lol h3/h5 have plenty of devices and chips remaining and most are mainlined so they are supported in that way, as far as direct support from vendor, thats a whole other thing, each vendor chooses their own support procedure
<flyback>
yeah that's what I figured
<[TheBug]>
and if y our serious enough I am sure you could still have h3/h5 boards made
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<rneese>
ok well it looks like the build worked I just dont have a way to fully test till tomorrow when I can get a cable and kbd and mouse
<rneese>
lanefu, if you can build amore updated img I have the line for the build I use
<rneese>
ok bbiab
<rneese>
ok I got it on hdmi and the budgie desktop comes up but its not in budgie mode