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<stipa>
i think they did it intentionally but for some reason in media is information that it collapsed by itself
<stipa>
they/ll probably build something else there because of the good spot
<DarthGandalf>
I thought it started collapsing by itself. Then they just finished it intentionally, because it was too dangerous to repair
<stipa>
yeah
<DarthGandalf>
and канат is probably more like cable than rope
<stipa>
the dish was in state of EOL
<stipa>
Eond Of Life
<[TheBug]>
End Of Love
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<rneese1>
Hey guys
<TRS-80>
oO
<TRS-80>
Are you the real rneese?!
<rneese1>
On medical holiday
<rneese1>
Lol
<rneese1>
Yes it's me on my tablet in hospital
<TRS-80>
damn man, you alright?
<TRS-80>
wondered what happened to you
<rneese1>
Me knee is infected. Been here since tuesday
<rneese1>
But that's why my laptop is online but I have not been
<DigitalMan1983_>
*takes a rip off the bong* yes
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* TRS-80
abstains from almost all drugs in reality
<rneese1>
So I finally got off on tablet to check in
<rneese1>
I do what's prescribed only when really needed
* DigitalMan1983_
abstains from all drugs including alcohol with the exception of copious amounts of marijuana
* DigitalMan1983_
likes his nicotine and coffee as well
<rneese1>
I will know more tomorrow what the game plan is
<TRS-80>
you feeling any better?
<rneese1>
My go to a medical physicality so they can work with leg
<rneese1>
Yes spend last 2 days asleep
<rneese1>
Today I have energy and feel better
<TRS-80>
well good
<rneese1>
But the leg is not functioning like it should
<DigitalMan1983_>
best wishes for speedy recovery man
<rneese1>
So what's the latest on 20.11
<rneese1>
Thanks
<DigitalMan1983_>
shit, I still have to test the new releases!
<TRS-80>
well, it look like they been pushing flurries of shit since 20.11, we are already on .1 if not .2 bugfix
<rneese1>
I know it had some issues but was hoping they got cleared nup
<TRS-80>
especially today, lots of GitHub activity I noticed; I was working on my own stuff not paying close attention though
<rneese1>
I know igorpec should be asleep right no
<rneese1>
Now
<DigitalMan1983_>
I grabbed build tools like 2 or 3 times last night
<rneese1>
Hmm ok I have to go read the hub logs
<rneese1>
What's lanefu doing
<lanefu>
rneese1: yu're back!
<rneese1>
Here but not back
<TRS-80>
...and he shall appear
<lanefu>
well here is good
<rneese1>
In hospital but alive
<lanefu>
rneese1: I got mate on my pinebook and its runnning saawwwweeeeet
<TRS-80>
oh yes how could I have forgotten that
<lanefu>
rneese1: ...and we merged in the build armbian on ARM64 into the desktop branch.. and i can build a mate file system in 10 minutes
<lanefu>
so we can defeintly speed up your workflow hwen you get back in the game
<rneese1>
Did you use Meta install or some custome install
<rneese1>
Cool
<lanefu>
i just used what you had setup.. i added a missing package or two. will probalby go back and add soem more
<lanefu>
but man its great
<rneese1>
Ok
<rneese1>
Document for me
<lanefu>
yeah was bummed couldnt celebrate w/ you
<lanefu>
sorry you're laid up in the hospital man. thats never fun.. need anyone to water your plants?
<rneese1>
Well it's ok ., But glad it worked
<rneese1>
No plants and a friend has my dog
<lanefu>
so whats yoru routine. sleep, tv, tablet,sleep rinse repeat
<nekomancer[m]>
nice that covidabilities not disable knee healing. in my country all healthcare excluding emergency (means you will dead in next 24 hour) now paused
<rneese1>
Once I know the plan . I will get my laptop to where I land
<lanefu>
okay
<lanefu>
i got a little advise on how to make a virtual machien of armbian
<lanefu>
goal is that you can have a test image with desktop that you can VNC to
<rneese1>
Well here because my knee was size of cantaloupe they put me in
<lanefu>
ouch
<rneese1>
Else they woul have sent me home
<nekomancer[m]>
rneese1: try to enter this channel with matrix client. maybe it will be more comfortable
<lanefu>
man that must hurt like crazy
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: lol
<rneese1>
Let me o get it
<rneese1>
Lol
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<rneese1>
But it'd on small 7 inch tab is hard
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<rneese1>
Brb
<rneese1>
Ok back
<rneese1>
They wanted to take vitals
<rneese1>
I need a emmc for my t2
<rneese1>
Hope Santa gets my letter
<rneese1>
I also need to cad a full metal case based on the plastic one
<nekomancer[m]>
<lanefu "like my pineh64 can make a xfce4"> do you mean armbian build script now can build on aarch64?
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: yes, but not in armbina buidl master branch yet
<lanefu>
we havea branch called native for that.. and we also merged it into the desktop branch
<lanefu>
some u-boots dont build.. but allwinner works all the way
<lanefu>
but the real win is doing debootstrap adn making hte filesystems
<nekomancer[m]>
ah... I try it 2 days ago and there was no builders for uboot. but I try rockchip
<DigitalMan1983_>
so I'm taking my first stab at creating a user patch, need to add a few lines to u-boot configuration's defconfig. I'm trying to use diff to make the patch but am having troulble piecing it together...
<DigitalMan1983_>
I guess my first question is if it matters what directory I execute diff in
<nekomancer[m]>
but I try to choose "not build uboot and kernel, use from repo" — then script stops before image creation
<TRS-80>
i.e., git is not tracking it as part of repo, which is what you want for a patch usually
<DigitalMan1983_>
I already tried making the diff patch, that's what it is showing but it did fail when I tried to build with patches
<DigitalMan1983_>
ohh ok I see
<TRS-80>
there are lots of reasons for that, a diff is sort of but not necessarily exactly a patch, doing format-patch insures you get all line endings etc. exactly correct
<DigitalMan1983_>
the a/ and b/ thing has me lost too
<TRS-80>
a and b?
<TRS-80>
ooh ok
<TRS-80>
so that is the before and after
<TRS-80>
in other words, the changes you made
<DigitalMan1983_>
when looking at the patch file itself. the header on mine is clearly the wrong format, I just don't know how to properly execute diff/git
<TRS-80>
you are trying to create your own patch, right?
<DigitalMan1983_>
yeah
<TRS-80>
if so, follow steps I gave you
<TRS-80>
do you understand add, commit, working tree, staging, etc?
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<TRS-80>
icp icu
<DigitalMan1983_>
nope
<icypee>
hey i tried running sudo apt dist-upgrade on my pinebook but it won't upgrade to the latest ubuntu
<DigitalMan1983_>
I'm a beginner at patches which is what wound me up with diff, seemed simple and straightforward at first
<icypee>
there's only a xenial image for my pinebook
<TRS-80>
DigitalMan1983_: you really need to understand just the basics first though, everything will make sense after that
<icypee>
so does that mean i can't upgrade past xenial if there's only a xenial image for my pinebook?
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<TRS-80>
I dunno icypee, I only use Debian and headless. Someone else probably knows something though.
<icypee>
i'm using armbian xenial
<TRS-80>
I do know great things are coming to desktop though pretty soon-ush.
<TRS-80>
I understand that. Which is Ubuntu based. And a desktop. Do you understand that?
<icypee>
yes
<icypee>
i wish there was an armbian buster build for my pinebook
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<TRS-80>
ok, hang out then, I was just saying that I would like to help but personally I don't know anything about Ubuntu nor desktop
<TRS-80>
Ohai Armbian2020
<icypee>
no armbian buster is based on debian buster
<Armbian2020>
Hi, i cannot reply with my forum account ... You have reached the maximum number of posts you can make per day.
<TRS-80>
icypee: Right, but you said Armbian does not ship that image as an option?
<icypee>
yes
<icypee>
for my pinebook
<TRS-80>
Armbian2020: hang tight one sec
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* DigitalMan1983_
is a millenial and doesn't like reading stuff to know how to do stuff
* TRS-80
waves magic wand
<TRS-80>
Armbian2020: try now
<DigitalMan1983_>
LOL
<TRS-80>
DigitalMan1983_: But grasshopper, the path to true wizard-dom lie only through reading many ancient scrolls of wisdom (books, man pages, docs, etc.)
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<Armbian2020>
Ok, it working
<DigitalMan1983_>
has anyone done, like, a tik-tok on this?
<TRS-80>
I think you are trolling me now. I almost took the bait.
<TRS-80>
almost
<TRS-80>
git is aloways going to be "strange" until you get the fundamentals down, but they are really not that hard
<TRS-80>
simple, even
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<TRS-80>
but you have to be in right "learning" frame of mind, which is not possible when you are in a hurry to "get something done"
<TRS-80>
...right at this moment...
<DigitalMan1983_>
when "pull request" went in, I'll admit it applied a liberal amount of vaseline
<TRS-80>
you are welcome Armbian2020
* TRS-80
shakes his head
<DigitalMan1983_>
I still get the creepy-uncle feels when I'm in the presence of terms like "commit"
<TRS-80>
but GitHub is an online service, which adds some features on top of git (like collaborative review, issue tracking, etc.) so don't conflate that with plain git
<TRS-80>
actually the best way I think to learn plain git is just install it on your local machine (it probably already is) and just start playing around with it
<DigitalMan1983_>
hmmm...so does the interwebs URL just become the local path to the directory?
<TRS-80>
the base name of project ("something", in your example) will become a child dir in the current dir
<TRS-80>
I keep all my repos in ~/git/ext/ for external repos, I cd in there then do git clone whatever and it ends up as a dir in there
<TRS-80>
but you can start your own repo, too
<TRS-80>
cd && mkdir -p git/int && cd git/int && git --init
<TRS-80>
no that's wrong
<TRS-80>
cd && mkdir -p git/int/test-repo && cd git/int/test-repo && git --init
<TRS-80>
I keep my personal repos in ~/git/int (for internal)
<archetech>
pfft all ive ever needed is git clone url/KDE/pkgname
<TRS-80>
websites as ~/git/web; public projects (of mine) at ~/git/pub; you get the picture
<archetech>
cd config && make
<archetech>
now a dev would be different
<TRS-80>
DigitalMan1983_: then you just make some files, in your local play repo, and now you can learn with basic commands like I mentioned above. But this is basically same as that book walks you through step by step.
<Tony_mac32>
I committed food sins today, and it was delicious
<TRS-80>
sounds yummy
<TRS-80>
we had something not so healthy for dinner, was also delicious
<TRS-80>
what did you have?
<Tony_mac32>
my kids for cooking class had to make polenta and escarole/white beans
<Tony_mac32>
I learned a few things
<Tony_mac32>
1 is that polenta is fancy for grits
<Tony_mac32>
and 2 is that escarole is some kind of European collard
<Tony_mac32>
XD
<TRS-80>
How is that sins? Sound like good basic traditional foods?
<Tony_mac32>
oh wait
<Tony_mac32>
flash forward to today
<TRS-80>
it's all becoming clearer now
<Tony_mac32>
I took said leftover polenta, which had hardened nicely into a lump and cut it into slabs
<TRS-80>
better be shrimp involved
<TRS-80>
:D
<Tony_mac32>
That would not have been a sin
<TRS-80>
sorry, go on
<Tony_mac32>
and I plan on some grits/shrimp tomorrow
<Tony_mac32>
anyhow
<Tony_mac32>
I also had leftover sloppy joe
<Tony_mac32>
it turns out, fried slabs of polenta go great on a sloppy joe with some american cheese
<Tony_mac32>
:D
<TRS-80>
oh yeah that's like fat man level thinking
<archetech>
potatoes stroganoff fr a box with grnd beef and chorizo
<Tony_mac32>
wife is concerned about stuff shutting down again, I reminded her we have abot 25 lbs of frozen meat, 25 lbs of udon noodles, a crate of ramen, and if it all goes really wrong, I know how to prepare squirrels
<Tony_mac32>
XD
<Tony_mac32>
archetech that doesn't sound half bad
<archetech>
its really different with the chorizo
* Tony_mac32
loves some chorizo
<archetech>
over noodles is ok too
<archetech>
touch of dijon and some crawfish
<Tony_mac32>
it's been too long since I had any crawfish
<archetech>
cfish ettoufee
<archetech>
and in gumbo w/ shrimp
<archetech>
tiny lobsters
<Tony_mac32>
XD
<Tony_mac32>
I got lost looking for a place to eat in Alabama, wound up deciding to turn around, and the place I was turning around in was a food place
<Tony_mac32>
so I stopped there
<Tony_mac32>
best accident ever
* Tony_mac32
now wants to deep fry some corn bread
<archetech>
corn bread is a must side and collard greens
<archetech>
greens in brisket juice
<archetech>
my fav food ever is real Momo's from Nepal
<archetech>
dumplings with amazing stuffing and chutney
<nekomancer[m]>
`tig` is a console simple git history browser
<Tony_mac32>
meat pierogis
<TRS-80>
so is git log and git hist
<Tony_mac32>
XD
<Tony_mac32>
"go on git!"
* TRS-80
actually wrote a shell script called gitit
<Tony_mac32>
lol
* Tony_mac32
likes to TIG
<TRS-80>
for git iterate, to iterate over all repos and do some command
* Tony_mac32
still needs to get a new bottle for his MIG
<TRS-80>
How many shields and such that are physically compatible with that interface are relevant for an ESP32? much less an AT328?
<Tony_mac32>
the only ones that aren't compatible are the TFT display ones
<Tony_mac32>
the AVR obviouslt can't do I2S either
<TRS-80>
really? that's more than I thought
<Tony_mac32>
the ESP32 has some slow I/O due to needing the expander, but I made sure I2C/SPI/I2S are all in tact
<Tony_mac32>
I used a spi/ethernet hat on both
<Tony_mac32>
Adafruit displays
<TRS-80>
I must confess to never been a "shield" guy, either. That always struck me as "babby's first electronics kit" or something. Not that I am at any higer level than that, mind you, just... I dunno...
<Tony_mac32>
well given almost every damn thing you can think of is on them, they are great for evaluation purposes
<TRS-80>
somehow if you are not using a breadboard and dupont wires it's too limiting or something for me
<Tony_mac32>
I got a small stash of these for the step before I build a HAT
* Tony_mac32
will probably use the 328PB boards to test/verify/program other boards
<TRS-80>
it seems like I am always trying to cram some sensor and uC into some tiny little box because tiny little boxes are inexpensive
<Tony_mac32>
well, I make custom boards for my stuff, but for quick and dirty first pass, slapping a hat onto a board is easy and you can prove feasibility
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<lanefu>
Merry Friday
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<IgorPec>
lanefu: finally two days at home, yeah
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<Werner>
Good day
<IgorPec>
hej
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@Havidkecil (C/L/X): Linux ARMbian via TV 🤣 https://t.co/vGLeF67Fx4 (7s ago)
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<fromport>
IgorPec: i got mine to boot with petitboot from the url in korea, but it can't find/recognize the sd card to install to :-(
<IgorPec>
i think you have to bypass petitboot
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<rneese1>
It was igorpec in the kitchen with the meat
<rneese1>
Hammer
<IgorPec>
hej rich
<rneese1>
Hey brb dr just walked in
<IgorPec>
sure
<rneese1>
Ok now I wait for my orho dr to show
<rneese1>
How goes
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<rneese1>
Lanefu told me about builds building native on arm
<IgorPec>
yes, it was merged in
<IgorPec>
but things are experimental
<rneese1>
Glad tomhear
<IgorPec>
certainly not all variants works
<rneese1>
Can not type on tablet well
<rneese1>
Ok
<fromport>
IgorPec: i tried all available hc4 images, wrote them 64 & 128gb sd cards. i have 3 x hc4, upgraded one to latest petitboot so i can test with old &new version. I can not get _any_ image written to sd card to boot.
* fromport
feels like absolute beginner
<IgorPec>
have zero experiences with petitboot
<rneese1>
What software u ussr to write img
<rneese1>
Odroid uses itmfor booting spi
<fromport>
balena etcher 1.5.81
<rneese1>
Turn it to normal boot
<IgorPec>
petitboot is the problem as i heard on hk forums
<IgorPec>
but since i don't have HC4 ...
<rneese1>
Yes unplug emc and boot sd
<IgorPec>
petitboot is on SPI
<fromport>
i finally was able to boot it with the url. basically pxe boot over http, part of pb. i finally for the first time had familar setup screen from debian. except it didn't recognize the sd card
<rneese1>
Yes there is a switch to use it or boot sd/emmc/usb
<rneese1>
The sd card is bootable
<fromport>
hc4 != h4. afaik hc4 does not have emc and thus does not have switch.
<IgorPec>
"Personally, I also didn't like the idea of removing Petitboot - but I just couldn't get it working another way. Updated Petitboot, tried the suggestions in the Odroid forum: Other monitor, other PSU.. No luck."
<fromport>
imo the difference in kernel between c4 & hc4 is the sata controller that is on pci. but the sd card driver should be same between c4 & hc4, right ?
<IgorPec>
there is no difference in kernel
<fromport>
ok
<IgorPec>
device tree is different
<IgorPec>
"board special config", but also not that different
<IgorPec>
petitboot is the problem
<IgorPec>
remove it and it will work. anyway you don't need it
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<fromport>
thanks, will try that once i get back from that pesky thing called 'work' ;-)
<rneese1>
Trying to read github
<IgorPec>
fromport: ok
<ArmbianTwitter>
@lanefu (Lane Jennison): Be like me. Choose @armbian for your next SBC. Whether an #odroid #bananapi #orangepi #raxda or #pine64 And for your TV Boxes...... throw them in the trash 🤠 https://t.co/lBwyD5LAJA (2s ago)
<lanefu>
got my marketing done for the weekend
<TRS-80>
well done
<TRS-80>
did you include pic of Pen & Teller? straightinthetrash.jpg
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<IgorPec>
RT :)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): RT @lanefu: Be like me. Choose @armbian for your next SBC. Whether an #odroid #bananapi #orangepi #raxda or #pine64 And for your TV Boxe… (16s ago)
<TRS-80>
I am thinking about writing intro to git; should I make it forum post or add straight to docs?
<TRS-80>
intro and basic usage
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<IgorPec>
sorry, not following much ... i came to read bug things today, briefly
<IgorPec>
if things has to be found easily, docs, else forum
<lanefu>
yeah i dont need hte link, just need it in teh mail
<IgorPec>
you have place on the desk ? :)
<lanefu>
IgorPec: thats irrelevant
<Werner>
haha
<lanefu>
Improvise, Adapt, Overcome
<TRS-80>
aka "shove things into drawers"
<lanefu>
does the curve make a difference tho
<lanefu>
i started making wooden boxes to dump stuff in
<lanefu>
a movable junk drawer
<TRS-80>
Am I the only one who thinks curved monitors / TVs are a meme / marketing gimmick?
<Werner>
Mostly they are, but looks cool
<lanefu>
I used to do 2 monitors
<TRS-80>
lanefu: I put up whole wall full of screw into wall IKEA modular shelving, and we bought a ton of those clear IKEA boxes in varios sizes
<lanefu>
but my add made me turn my head too much
<lanefu>
and my neck started to hurt
<Werner>
I had three. All different sizes and models. Then Dell released this thing and I told myself f*ck it and bought it. Now I am back to one monitor :)
<TRS-80>
t. 20 30 20 PLP mustard race
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<lanefu>
Yeah I just use a 24" 4K screen with mostly full screen stuff..... but when i'm docked to my macbook, i leave the macbook screen open now.. originally because it would goto sleep adn goof things up.. but cooling is better.. adn now i just leave slack and my security cameras on it. so not too distracting at least
<IgorPec>
i am also on one, just not curved
<IgorPec>
i had additional 32" 4k on a side, but its not helping - TN panel sucks
<IgorPec>
anyway, great choice werner :)
<Werner>
Expensive choice ^^
<Werner>
Waiting for an SBC with 8k support and DP 1.4
<IgorPec>
well, yeah. i paid 1/2 for mine and it was still expensive :)
<[TheBug]>
I want to replace my 720p 32" with a Pixio 32" high refreshreate screen but they are still $300... way to rich for my blood
<[TheBug]>
sure hook up my gaming laptop now and then and get some nice frames :)
<[TheBug]>
my gamin laptop has a 17" 120hz screen on it and its pretty nice
<[TheBug]>
wouldn't mind having something that nice for everyday
<IgorPec>
and radeon 5900xt or what is today a thing?
<[TheBug]>
haha nah
<[TheBug]>
I don't play games that need that much yet
<[TheBug]>
still just my 1060 w/ 6gb vram
<IgorPec>
that's why i am surprosed on "165Hz"
<IgorPec>
i also have 1060 in my rig
<[TheBug]>
I am sure its 144hz with overclock
<IgorPec>
aha, my monitor is 60Hz and i am happy with it
<TRS-80>
What's the upper limit of what human can percieve again? Frequency wise I mean? lol
<[TheBug]>
well for everyday I would be happy with 60Hz too
<IgorPec>
yeah
<[TheBug]>
right now I am using an old samsung 32" 720p TV screen as my main, so things are super huge cause the scaler sucks
<[TheBug]>
would love to replace it with an actual monitor at some point
<[TheBug]>
lol
<[TheBug]>
though I do have 3 other monitors in front of me :p
<[TheBug]>
all smaller though :Z
<TRS-80>
All the mismatched size multi monitor setups I saw were extremely jarring to my OCD/autism, until I stumbled across 20 30 20 PLP setup. I really do think it's the best setup. But those side 20s are getting harder to find nowadays, they don't make them any more last I checked.
<[TheBug]>
hehe I have 1x 24" 2x27" and 1x32" directly in front of me
<TRS-80>
all 3 my monitors not only match up in physical size, but also screen size and dot pitch
<[TheBug]>
lucky you
<[TheBug]>
wish I had that kinda of money ;p
<[TheBug]>
screens are expensive
<[TheBug]>
haha
* [TheBug]
says that after he spent probably $500 on RockPi 4cs in the last 2 months *DOH*
<TRS-80>
sode Dell 20" I paid some 10s of $ on Craigslist, center 30" Monoprice was $500 something when I bought it
<TRS-80>
s/sode/side/
<ArmbianHelper>
TRS-80 meant to say: side Dell 20" I paid some 10s of $ on Craigslist, center 30" Monoprice was $500 something when I bought it
<[TheBug]>
well in my case I have just sort of collected more screens over time
<TRS-80>
yes this was conscious action on my part ;)
<[TheBug]>
and I wasn't 100% tructhful I have 5 screen in this room, 2x24" 2x27" and my 32" though only 4 are in front, one is on my testing table beside
<TRS-80>
in other words, a plan; perish the thought lol
<[TheBug]>
its 24" and 27" (IPS) on top, 32" TV and 27" TN panel on bottom
<[TheBug]>
and 1x 24" on my table
<[TheBug]>
The only commonality is that when I pick I usually buy Samsung.. the ones that are not samsung I either got on some special deal or inherited in some way :Z
<ArmbianTwitter>
@jerry_hopper (jerry hopper): @lanefu @armbian and while you're already tinkering with this, be like me: implement oauth2 device-authorization in your application for these devices! #fusionauth #bash https://t.co/yafPbwNKMj (19s ago)
<stipa>
i have dell as main one
<stipa>
U2913WM
<stipa>
it takes time to adapt to big monitors
<stipa>
head moves alot
<TRS-80>
I was looking at 30" 16:10 and Dell are expensive. Nice, but expensive. Monoprice one is not only "good enough" but I am actually quite pleased with it, and it was $500 something (at the time, I guess 5+ years ago now all of a sudden, wow) and at that time the Dell was like $1,200. Probably only even more now, if they even still make them. Everyone only making 16:9 meme shit any more it seems.
<ArmbianTwitter>
@lanefu (Lane Jennison): @jerry_hopper @armbian Uhhh yes! cuz that's awesome.. I'm gonna have to try that out (27s ago)
<stipa>
i went dell beacuse it soesn't flicker
<stipa>
doesn't*
<stipa>
background doesn't use PWM
<stipa>
backlight*
<TRS-80>
I don't know if I am just not sensitive enough to pick it up or not, but I never seen any flicker
<lanefu>
ha I got some biz class HP for some off-lease deal
<lanefu>
i wish it had a newer HDMI revision, for 4k60, but does it w/ display port
<stipa>
TRS-80: you probably have good eysight
<stipa>
TRS-80: but if it's something cheap i just set the backlight/brightness to max and flicker is gone
<TRS-80>
thing about the Monoprice is I don't consider it a "cheap" monitor at all. but rather a quite good one for a reasonable price
<stipa>
what ever makesyou horny
<stipa>
but staring whole day in monitors
<stipa>
that's not nice at all
<TRS-80>
that much is true
<TRS-80>
sometimes I get blurry eyed
<stipa>
i'm in front of it whole freakin day
<TRS-80>
but I will go back to work cycle soon for some months
<TRS-80>
it's a good change all the way around
<TRS-80>
a lot more physical activity, etc.
<stipa>
that's great
<stipa>
i feel change even when few hours not staring at a monitor
<stipa>
less strain
<stipa>
and better mood
<ArmbianTwitter>
@jerry_hopper (jerry hopper): @lanefu @armbian Oh, if you are looking for a idp server for your arm64 device with at least 1gb ram, look no further : checkout my unofficial fusionauth multiarchitecture docker repository : https://t.co/oSasY9HZ7H 🥳 (8s ago)
<IgorPec>
werner: did you implement zero2 into the build script?
<Werner>
no
<IgorPec>
aha, ok. just asking
<Werner>
I did some tests locally but failed miserable doing anything ^^
<IgorPec>
np, i will try to use jernej u-boot and see how far i get
<Werner>
I think martinayotte could also figure out this H6 SPI issue so I don't know if he maybe already started working on the zero2
<nekomancer[m]>
well, well, next problem for aarch64 building are x64-only dynamic linked vendor tools, like rkbin-tools. At least chroot or docker image with libs in x64 architecture need.
<ArmbianTwitter>
@lanefu (Lane Jennison): @jerry_hopper @armbian oh man even easier.... I'm a big fan of proper multi arch containers.. my nomad cluster is multi arch, so I like not having to care where it launches (9s ago)
<lanefu>
nekomancer[m]: are you working from the armbian nativebranch?
<nekomancer[m]>
no, I lost it. but Ifound "native" fixes in "desktop" branch
<lanefu>
ahh yes, we merged it into desktop
<lanefu>
allwinner builds totally fine
<lanefu>
amlogic adn rockchip need work
<lanefu>
if you care more about build and image and less about building uboot or kernel,, you can use this option REPOSITORY_INSTALL="u-boot,kernel,bsp,armbian-config,armbian-firmware"
* nekomancer[m]
want to do something good. then now I lurking on internet about "are there way to get or make used tool for aarch64" (seems no way) then "how to run rktools for x64 on aarch64"
<IgorPec>
i think chroot will be fine. we just need to add this step by step
<IgorPec>
chaning to arm64 build can't be done over night
<IgorPec>
i guess
<lanefu>
yeah chroot works great
<lanefu>
thats how i built my mate image for pinebook
<lanefu>
eth01: yeah.. had always been the case... UK seems to be very slow when syncing frmo eastern europe... our original seed from estonia took a long time, and then similar when seeding from slovenia now
<eth01>
could we sync from somewhere else, perhaps?
<lanefu>
yeah.. i think that's teh endgame.. we're hoping to have a new place to seed from in a few weeks
<lanefu>
waiting on a generous VPS provider to provsion
<lanefu>
it would be interesting to see if using rclone to our object storage in estonia is faster
<lanefu>
it can at least be multiple streams
<lanefu>
s/rclone to/rclone from/
<ArmbianHelper>
lanefu meant to say: it would be interesting to see if using rclone from our object storage in estonia is faster
<IgorPec>
uk mirror looks like fell out. or is that slow?
<eth01>
we could give you a VM in amsterdam
<eth01>
sync from that instead
<IgorPec>
we could try, sure
<eth01>
we actually manage BGP from amsterdam, too
<lanefu>
eth01: as a pass-thru? or store data in amsterdam?
<eth01>
lanefu: we could give you a VM in amsterdam to store data I guess, what kind of storage would it require?
<eth01>
we have more control over the routing between the UK/amsterdam unlike at the moment where it's from UK/estonia (on a network we do not know/control)
<lanefu>
eth01: hmm well I did POC s3fs and exposing via rsync.. it was insane but worked, but lets just hold, I think this new host we're getting will a good source of truth adn we can sync frmo it instead
<eth01>
sure, np. let me know - offer is there
<lanefu>
sweet. much appreciated
<lanefu>
IgorPec: what are we gonna do with all this sweet coffee mug money we generated :P
* TRS-80
will be disappointed if the answer is not hookers and blow
<lanefu>
I don't want hookers and blow if they take that kidn of money
<TRS-80>
all 3.85 of it? :D
<TRS-80>
right, I just realized
<lanefu>
all options will result in burning sesnsations
<TRS-80>
no teeth could be considered an upside?
* lanefu
leaves the room
<TRS-80>
:D
<[TheBug]>
Sounds like TRS-80 recognizes a professional when he sees one
* TRS-80
was talking pure shit
<[TheBug]>
lol sure, back track when you get caught with your pants down ;)
* lanefu
leaves the next room
<TRS-80>
:D
<[TheBug]>
ROFL
<[TheBug]>
Should know by now, with all these IOT devices we have speakers planted in all the rooms now... there is no escape...
<[TheBug]>
meanwhile th dumbass at Wendys gave me cherry coke instead of diet coke.. someone needs to clean their ears.. *sigh*
<lanefu>
uhm sounds like htey were being thoughtful as diet coke is terrible
<[TheBug]>
ahhaha
<[TheBug]>
somehow I knew someone would say something like that
<[TheBug]>
;p
<lanefu>
so I sniff traffic on my IOT vlan, and so far alexa hasnt been like streaming 2423423megs of data or anything
<[TheBug]>
watching UDP and TCP?
<lanefu>
yeah
<lanefu>
basically i just dump all my vlans into a spare interface and run ntop-ng on it
<[TheBug]>
Alexa is in a wifi relationship with yout next door neighbors ring doorbell and is sending Amazon all the data that way
<lanefu>
ha
<lanefu>
at least its not using my ring doorbell anymore
<lanefu>
i replaced it with an amcrest
<TRS-80>
lanefu: I reject your factual evidence and substitute my own preferred wild conspiracy theories instead
<TRS-80>
:D
<[TheBug]>
lanefu: how active are you in the room its in
<[TheBug]>
that will dictate a lot about it's traffic pattens
<[TheBug]>
if your actively speaking in that room constantly I would expect it to be connecting / sending more data
<TRS-80>
Jokes aside, I do seem to recall reading something recently about how their devices try and connect to one another (including e.g., your neighbors devices(!)) in order to create their own mesh network and find a path out to the Internet, even if yours goes down. Most muppets (alarmingly, IMO) probably consider this a "feature."
<[TheBug]>
Yes, while I was being funny, thats the reference I was going for, lol ;)
<lanefu>
there's some new tech called sidewalk that I think is a handshake protocol.. icant remember
<[TheBug]>
yeah
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<lanefu>
[TheBug]: fyi keep me informed on what kind fo trends you see if your mirror traffic
<nekomancer[m]>
sad but this hint still actual for aarch64. `buster` works, focal not (for x64 and i386 guests)