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<ish51>
Thanks +lanefu! I came across that article in the forum when I search earlier on - but it looks like that user didn't get very far.
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@SketchyFletchy (Fletch 🐝): @MunchlaxRegrets If you can deal with their awful product management/naming and you’re happy installing armbian instead of the official images the OrangePi lineup is surprisingly punchy and dirt cheap. ~AUD$20 goes quite a long way. https://tinyurl.com/ydc5g7ap (13s ago)
<stipa>
maybe he could run it as an VM
<Tonymac32>
lanefu spent some time AFK
<stipa>
that's healthy
<Tonymac32>
indeed.
<ArmbianTwitter>
@aaronjangel (Aaron J. Angel): Armbian randomly failed on my Orange Pi One, so I decided to take the opportunity to build a FreeBSD image. #FingersCrossed https://tinyurl.com/ybzse2c3 (19s ago)
<Tonymac32>
I always enjoyed BSD. It was like camping in the mountains with nothing but a tarp and a knife.
<Tonymac32>
:D
<Tonymac32>
(Full disclosure my last BSD install was 2005)
<stipa>
lol
<stipa>
it's hard os
<stipa>
i don't use it because wifi supports lags behind
<stipa>
like a decade or even more
<stipa>
but i wish to have a bsd machine, at least one
<stipa>
for now i have no need for one
<stipa>
oh, fuck, macos i bsd
<stipa>
is*
<stipa>
o have one, my bad
<stipa>
but it's used alot in those firewall/traffic control machines like pfsense and such
<archetech>
macos isnt bsd afaik
<stipa>
i have no idea, i have just seen it mentioned around
<archetech>
Tonymac32, lol true
<archetech>
mach kernel with unix based in house userspace
<archetech>
macOS is now mostly BSD with a few custom Apple modules and of course the Macintosh user interface, which has been polished over the years
<archetech>
good link I needed a update
<archetech>
a/an
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@co7wt (Pavel Milanes Costa): Autonomous #DIYSatelliteGroundStation capturing #SSTV images @Space_Station #ISS @ARISS_status @AMSAT @AmsatUK One perfect image an other 90% only 11 degrees az Using a @orangepixunlong Pi Prime #SBC + #RTLSDR + @armbian #MadeInCuba @frcuba_cu @TheCubanTech #qsstv #linux #DIY https://t.co/uSPn9gQo67https://tinyurl.com/y8u83fow (25s ago)
<Werner>
Well there must be a reason why you chose to include the "next" things into the PR. So you must have found them somewhere in the code. But as said next is deprecated.
<gediz0x539>
i see. i thought you also meant the part which contains "asound_state, atfbranch, etc" are leftovers and are unnecessary.
<Werner>
No. Just the next thingies ;)
<gediz0x539>
i will append "(deprecated)" to the lines which try to describe _NEXT variables
<gediz0x539>
thanks for the review by the way
<Werner>
perfect
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<IgorPec>
good morning
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<Werner>
Morning
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<kprasadvnsi[m]>
Good morning
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@A13_technology (∆13🏳️🌈): @joysfera @chiptronCZ @orangepixunlong They probably mean a lot of people buy it. And it's not a bad Board, sure it's 32Bit but for that price totally fine and thanks to @armbian you have great support. I would prefer it over a Raspi Zero since it has full size HDMI +USB and Ethernet as well as a more modern SOC. https://tinyurl.com/ybtw74lg (20s ago)
<con36>
Hi! I'm trying to debug the boot on a Pinebook Pro, however, I can't get debug output to show.
<con36>
In boot.cmd, I've tried setting the verbosity higher, disabling the bootlogo, setting console to 'display' or 'serial'. I'm not forgetting to rerun the proper mkimage command.
<con36>
I still can't get anything to show. I am able to break booting by for example messing up some bootars.
<con36>
Ideally I would like to power on, enter some bootargs and boot, then see what happens.
<con36>
Would anyone have some directions on what to try next?
<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @A13_technology @joysfera @chiptronCZ @orangepixunlong @armbian True. It all depends on the designated purpose. Running a @The_Pi_Hole in your LAN for example...hard to get any cheaper than that . https://tinyurl.com/ybpa7j4c (27s ago)
<Werner>
Usually there is no need to adjust anything to get basic debugging. serial console is always enabled on all (supported) boards. you can increase the verbosity but that's it
<Werner>
if there is no output whatsoever check basic stuff like RX/TX correctly connected, baudrate correct, powering good (switch cable/PSU), verify SDcard/switch to another....
<con36>
Ah, some I'm wrongly assuming anything should show on screen, and boot debug output is solely via attached serial monitor?
<con36>
so*
<Werner>
If you do not get any output via HDMI or similar using serial console is the best way to track down issues
<Werner>
Well...even if you get video output it is still the best way :D
<Werner>
If the board runs into kernel panic or similar these errors will be spit out over serial console while they might not be shown on ideo
<Werner>
s/ideo/video
<ArmbianHelper>
Werner meant to say: If the board runs into kernel panic or similar these errors will be spit out over serial console while they might not be shown on video
<Xogium>
a lot of board don't even have hdmi working in their bootloader
<Werner>
Xogium, yeah and some have HDMI even disabled in U-Boot due to incompatibilities with other features
<Xogium>
yeah I think odroid c2 has that
<Werner>
could be
* Xogium
is currently very annoyed at fedex for rigning the doorbell only once and immediately leaving
<Xogium>
they didn,t even leave the notice card to let me know where to get my package
<Xogium>
I want my stuff from mouser damnit
<Werner>
Sometimes these guys are very stressed out and have no choice but to fake visits in order to get their batch somehow done. bad situation
<Werner>
Not necessary the drivers fault. Management's fault
<Xogium>
I would have gotten my package 2 days in advance from the estimated delivery
<Werner>
con36, you're welcome
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<Xogium>
so what do you do if you don't even get a notice card ? XD
<Werner>
wait for the next day or check your emails, maybe mouser sent you a tracking number
<Xogium>
yeah they tracking said I was not there and they added a door tag to leme know what to do, where and when to pick up the package, or if any delivery were scheduled
<Xogium>
except I don't have that, and all the fedex tracking says is no delivery scheduled yet, with delivery set to pending
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<Xogium>
so I'm confused
<Werner>
Wait a few hours and recheck the tracking number against fedex website. At least from other distributors I know they provide these info in their websites too so you don need the card
<Xogium>
yeah
<Xogium>
first time I had something delivered by fedex in france :p can't say it's been a success
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@joysfera (Petr Stehlík): @DieZuckerbude @A13_technology @chiptronCZ @orangepixunlong @armbian @The_Pi_Hole Orange Pi Zero would be better for Pi Hole _server_. Orange Pi One is for "desktop use" (or basically for a client machine) with its HDMI out. https://tinyurl.com/y7ea9ax6 (11s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @OPi_Community Just tried with their #Android image and did not boot at all. No debug output, no HDMI output, nothing. Crosschecked to make sure it is not broken and #armbian booted right away. https://tinyurl.com/y9zzrpad (3s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@lanefu (Lane Jennison): @joysfera @DieZuckerbude @A13_technology @chiptronCZ @orangepixunlong @armbian @The_Pi_Hole Opi One has dual channel memory unlike the zero. It is a bit more performant. https://tinyurl.com/y8r3cfwn (25s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @lanefu @joysfera @A13_technology @chiptronCZ @orangepixunlong @armbian @The_Pi_Hole Also better voltage regulator than OPi Zero to increase overall stability. https://tinyurl.com/y9arxxzo (19s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@lanefu (Lane Jennison): @sahajsarup @arturo182 Im going to have to hunt down whatever they were using. Would. Be great for testing armbian image builds https://tinyurl.com/y9zss2dm (9s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): And what do we have here? @armbian @cnxsoft Asus Tinker Board 2, that power input looks serious. https://t.co/cyd2vtKeqLhttps://tinyurl.com/yadg8oyg (25s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@AdmV0rl0n (AdmV0rl0n): @TonyMac_32 @armbian @cnxsoft I hope ASUS have solved the overheating/performance issue this time round... https://tinyurl.com/y8xzx7wn (5s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @TonyMac_32 @armbian @cnxsoft Another #RK3399. So should be supportable? https://tinyurl.com/y7zcpmqa (23s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): @AdmV0rl0n @armbian @cnxsoft That heat sink is significantly larger. When speaking of big cores, no passive cooling system will work for extended periods, I agree the Tinker/S heat sink was a bit wimpy, but I detailed how I upgraded that years ago. https://tinyurl.com/ycfmkr8g (11s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): @DieZuckerbude @armbian @cnxsoft Indeed. This is the shiny new RK3399 that officially supports 2.0 GHz and uses less power. https://tinyurl.com/y8rqpmeu (27s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@AdmV0rl0n (AdmV0rl0n): @TonyMac_32 @armbian @cnxsoft Too many tinkerboards died. I hope their engineering this time round has learned from first gen. It just ran too hot and USB power connector was... problematic.. https://tinyurl.com/ybazssst (30s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): @AdmV0rl0n @armbian @cnxsoft Agreed, my feedback to them was along those lines as well, the Armbian forum has more than a few threads of mine detailing powering and heat dissipation. The power input on this is brutally heavy duty, so that's a good first step. https://tinyurl.com/yd34g26c (15s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@AdmV0rl0n (AdmV0rl0n): @TonyMac_32 @armbian @cnxsoft One of my bugbears is all the love for ARM, but much of the ARM kit available runs damn hot, or overheats. Anyhoos.. https://tinyurl.com/yardg4ms (14s ago)
<[TheBug]>
huh? does he just not use a heatsink or fan? Thats a weird ass claim if hes actually using the correct cooling equipment
<lanefu>
Yah just dont use cases
<ArmbianTwitter>
@TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): @AdmV0rl0n @armbian @cnxsoft Cost driven design choices. For reference, left is the Tinker 1 heat sink, the middle is what I use on Tinker 1, and the right is the Tinker 2 heat sink. https://t.co/7zll5Z6IBQhttps://tinyurl.com/y89gn2xu (7s ago)
<[TheBug]>
everyones so afraid of fans for some reason... thats the easiest solution
<[TheBug]>
and usually they are pretty cheap
<lanefu>
Noise stigma i think
<lanefu>
I just use 1 "big" fan on my cluster in my rack
<[TheBug]>
the spend the 15$ and buy a 40mm Noctua 5v fan and use one of t he noise limiting adatpers
<[TheBug]>
s/the/then
<ArmbianHelper>
[TheBug] meant to say: then spend the 15$ and buy a 40mm Noctua 5v fan and use one of t he noise limiting adatpers
<ArmbianTwitter>
@AdmV0rl0n (AdmV0rl0n): @TonyMac_32 @armbian @cnxsoft design? all they need to do is moderately lower clocks..... The default clock could be lower with user options to bump if the user adds cooling.... https://tinyurl.com/y9rynmjj (24s ago)
<[TheBug]>
unless you are hovering over it it isn't very easy to hear and was using one on one of my h3s not 3 ft from me and no noise from it
<lanefu>
Well uhm i mean that guy is a vorlon, a semi-plasma super being that lives in the outer-rim of known space
<lanefu>
[TheBug]: you should make a video debunking the moaning about fans
<[TheBug]>
lol
<[TheBug]>
are you trying to say I am a fan of fans
<[TheBug]>
;p
<[TheBug]>
that might really blow people away
<ArmbianTwitter>
@TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): @AdmV0rl0n @armbian @cnxsoft The kernel does that anyway if dvfs is working, you can't stop a heat soak of an undersized passive cooler that way, unless you add active cooling via a fan. Design wise I'm talking about packaged coolers. https://tinyurl.com/y7h5ucwh (1s ago)
<lanefu>
Exactly
<itsme82>
arm with a fan is just another intel or amd cpu
<itsme82>
i guess it's oke if it's in a basement
<itsme82>
but fans eat power, you know...
<itsme82>
fuck, it was quake overhere and now my weechat doesn't want to connect to the tor, it was power outage...
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<stipaa>
now i have to dig through settings for hours or maybe days
<stipaa>
to fix it
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@aaronjangel (Aaron J. Angel): Welp, now I know why u-boot couldn't boot Armbian. > sudo badblocks -t 0x000 -sw /dev/sdb ... a few minutes later ... done, 30:31 elapsed. (0/0/7142635 errors) I don't know, 7142635 seems like a lot. https://tinyurl.com/yapsgck9 (7s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter>
@alexwhittemore (Alexander the OK): @TonyMac_32 @armbian @cnxsoft It sure does! Make sure you use one of the forked-style barrel plugs, rather than the cheap solid style lest it intermittently shut down or spark on you with that plug-centering jack! https://t.co/rO74UWlRU6https://tinyurl.com/ycyjoy3s (4s ago)
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<Tonymac32>
remembering to pull down ribs for new years
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@MickMakes (MickMake): @TonyMac_32 @armbian @cnxsoft Indeed, it is. Nothing like a sturdy DC Jack. https://tinyurl.com/ydcjetbm (7s ago)