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<lanefu> who has a pbp?
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<fromport> Q: is /boot/boot.scr an ascii file or a binary file ?
<lanefu> binary
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<fromport> ty
<lanefu> you generate boot.scr from boot.cmd
<oncle> hello, i need help, I'm new owner of a N2+...at the moment I trying to flash eMMC 5.0 modul...i using a old umts stick because I'm not having a micro sdcard adapter..can't find the device...
<oncle> I found it..
<fromport> ;-)
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<oncle> I put the eMMC modul into that adapter and plug it into the umts stick...but not sure were the emmc to find?
<lanefu> what is a umts stick and were is it plugged in
<oncle> a GSM Stick and plugged into usb
<fromport> why is it relevant you have a gsm stick plugged in ?
<lanefu> GSM like for celluar?
<oncle> I haven't at the moment no mirco sd adapter
<oncle> lanefu: yes
<lanefu> k yeah failing to understand how you flash an emmc storage module with a celluar device
<oncle> I like to flash armbian on that eMMC without a mirco sd adapter so i rape the gsm-stick
<fromport> IgorPec: i formatted the petitboot 16kb spi, but then nothing would happen. reflashed PB again. found out there is switch at the bottom you need to keep pressed up to 20 seconds after poweron to force it to boot from sd card. first time i saw armbian boot from sd card. currently resizing the partition
<[TheBug]> lanefu: a lot of celuar modems will actually have an sdcard slot usually USB 1.0 ish and you can use it to read sdcards...
<lanefu> oh
<lanefu> beyond my expertise
<[TheBug]> back in the day I used to use an old tmobile celluar modem that was no longer usful as a modem as an sdcard reader
<stipa> but not emmc probably
<[TheBug]> so Ic an understand if that is what he is doing there
<[TheBug]> my understanding was he said he used the emmc to sdcard adapter
<[TheBug]> and then placed it in the cellular modems sdcard reader
<[TheBug]> but I could be wrong
<[TheBug]> oncle: is that the case
<oncle> yes
<stipa> yeah, his machine doesnt see the emmc
<[TheBug]> its possible
<oncle> yes, yes
<[TheBug]> cause those adapters are uisually usb 2.0
<[TheBug]> or higher speed
<[TheBug]> it may not work in that adapter
<[TheBug]> adapter being the emmc adapter
<[TheBug]> as in the cellular modem has older reader
<TRS-80> dude just go buy another one, it's good to have spares anyway
<[TheBug]> and its not working with the usd to emmc card
<oncle> okay, what I need to flash armbian on the nand emmc?
<[TheBug]> well
<[TheBug]> here is my suggestion to y ou
<[TheBug]> the device your flashing, does it have both emmc and sdcard?
<[TheBug]> also what device?
<TRS-80> normaly you install to sdcard and then boot into that, and then install to emmc
<[TheBug]> if so, put emmc on the device, get a sdcard and write sdcard
<stipa> N2+
<oncle> o.k. o.k.
<[TheBug]> then use armbian-config once booted on sdcard to install to emmc
<oncle> oh thanx
<[TheBug]> then you not need the adapter and all that
<oncle> ;)
<lanefu> oncle: so n2 has a boot selector switch
<lanefu> flip it to the mode that boots from spi
<oncle> yes, i've heard
<lanefu> and loads their petitboot boot loader
<lanefu> then use it to boot from sdcard
<lanefu> and flash emmc from that
<[TheBug]> dinner, bbiab
<fromport> I finally have a booting odroid hc4 with armbian. no ethernet though. mii-tool says "no link" unplug -> plug gives me 100Mb link on the switch. mii-tool show 100Mb/s, dhclient -v eth0 <- no ip received
<fromport> no arp entries. so prob driver issue
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<lanefu> con grats
<lanefu> fromport: is hc4 based on s905x3?
<fromport> lanefu: yep.
<TRS-80> Drew actually set up pretty cool guide, pretty sure it's wide open to anyone: https://git-send-email.io/
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<TRS-80> welp, I guess now we see how bad I get yelled at for my half ass patch :D https://lists.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/sr.ht-dev
<[TheBug]> Gotta give your whole ass!
<nekomancer[m]> it takes a time to make chroot. where it should live between compilations?
<lanefu> in cache/rootfs
<nekomancer[m]> can't find code of function `uboot_custom_postprocess` with grep in /lib/
<nekomancer[m]> where it is?
<TRS-80> nekomancer[m]: https://bpa.st/3ATQ
<nekomancer[m]> OMG!!! `config/sources/families`!!!
<TRS-80> looks like it's per board
<TRS-80> because it is per board
<TRS-80> so is a sort of config, I guess
<TRS-80> but I take your point
<TRS-80> should be a function somewhere with args
<TRS-80> re-factoring been discussed I think, and partially done in places, but not complete I guess
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<nekomancer[m]> maybe current solution is a
<nekomancer[m]> --меньшее зло
<ArmbianHelper> lesser evil [ru~>eng]
<TRS-80> looking at this now, I am thinking maybe so
<fromport> finally, a working armbin on odroid hc4 ;-) https://termbin.com/h642n
<lanefu> rockin!
<TRS-80> and there was much rejoicing! :D
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<fromport> took me only 3 days ;-)
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* TRS-80 been working on getting .org export working to same level as .md for sr.ht project READMEs for at least 3 days it seems
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<DigitalMan1983_> happy friday
<TRS-80> cheers!
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<nekomancer[m]> fromport: you are HC4 godfather-in-armbian
<khelair> greetings everybody. I was wondering if anyone could tell me why my 'df' command isn't showing the /var/log.hdd/ partition & disk usage at all...
<TRS-80> khelair: probably because it's mounted as zram or whatever
<khelair> I thought the SD card was mounted there by default during the installation. Unless I totally blanked something
<TRS-80> Yeah, I had to just double check. But /var/log is zram0; do lsblk to see this.
<TRS-80> this is done to reduce sdcard wear
<TRS-80> or emms, or whatever
<TRS-80> emmc
<TRS-80> which is better engineering than Tesla, apparently: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/16051-about-emmcs/?tab=comments#comment-114004
<TRS-80> bah delete that last bit: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/16051-about-emmcs/
<fromport> root
* nekomancer[m] looks to usage rktools binaries in `rockchip64_common.inc`, telss "and all that should run in chroot?" and go to watch some cartoons then sleep.
<fromport> ouch, ww
<fromport> ;-) getting late
<khelair> now that I'm looking a little more closely, I have /dev/mmcblk0p1 mounted both on '/' and '/var/log.hdd', it looks like. how the hell does that work?
<TRS-80> what have you done!? lol
<lanefu> it's a bind mind effectively via armbian-ramlog.service
<lanefu> s/mind/mount/
<ArmbianHelper> lanefu meant to say: it's a bind mount effectively via armbian-ramlog.service
<Tony_mac32> bind mind
<khelair> thnx guys
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<Tony_mac32> The wife does weight watchers, so she keeps making these chili/soup recipes with nothing but meat and beans in them. Found another use for the slabs of leftover grits
<Tony_mac32> fry em
<Tony_mac32> throw them in the bowl under the soup
* fromport gives that to the chickens ;-)
<Tony_mac32> I eat that with the chickens
<Tony_mac32> after rolling them in their own eggs
<Tony_mac32> XD
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<TRS-80> docker run -ti alpine
<TRS-80> cool
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<lanefu> TRS-80: if you wanna run one and not have to clean up after... docker run --rm -it alpine
<lanefu> it'll automatically delete
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* TRS-80 adds that to his notes
<lanefu> `docker ps -a` will look messy otherwise
<lanefu> also add `docker system prune` and `docker system prune -a` to your notes
<TRS-80> I think you told me that the other day, but now I started a notes file on containers
<TRS-80> I was just about to in fact :)
<lanefu> nice
<lanefu> its cool your tinkering with it
<TRS-80> came across pretty good article here https://pasztor.at/blog/docker-for-beginners/
<TRS-80> always man, babby steps
<TRS-80> have to just "play around" at first
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<lanefu> glmark2 --off-screen on pbp
<lanefu> =======================================================
<lanefu> glmark2 Score: 797
<lanefu> =======================================================
* TRS-80 has no idea what that means lol
<lanefu> 3d acceleration works
<TRS-80> ok, just didn't know if that was a "good" score, but it sounds like it's just about testing if it works at all
<lanefu> well my ancient nvidia card would spank that
<lanefu> but.. iwthout acceleration on arm
<lanefu> it would abe liek 40-70
<TRS-80> ok
<lanefu> if you saw that screenshot i posted the other day with the blue cat thing on screen that was partof the glmark test
<TRS-80> I figured something like that
<lanefu> ha
<lanefu> alright i should sotp being awake
* TRS-80 is also getting pretty tired
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<Werner> Good morning
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<TRS-80> Good morning Werner! And good night! :)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): Oh yeah. @armbian running on @orangepixunlong #zero2 https://t.co/HO1lI22MOX (24s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @A13_technology Checkout https://t.co/3bBXfrurHn and build dev branch (25s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @fosspost (FOSS Post: Linux & Open Source): @lanefu @armbian Used it on Orange Pi PC2 and Orange Pi Zero Plus, very great and working like a charm. Plug-and-play. What was more interesting is that the download size of their images is extremely small (~300MB) because of the compression on them. (22s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @fosspost @lanefu @armbian It is not only the compression, also the optimization scripts that allow the initial small file system to expand across the whole SDcard at first boot. (15s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @A13_technology Custom branch atm. Check https://t.co/2DtRLtOCYu for all changes made to bring it to life. (20s ago)
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<rneese1> When going on this am ..,...
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<rneese1> Quiet morning
<Werner> Indeed
<rneese1> Well I hope to go home monday
<rneese1> so then I can get back to working on things
<rneese1> My week vacation is enough
<rneese1> What u doing Werner
<Werner> Playing with the zero2
<rneese1> Zero2?
<rneese1> Ok
<rneese1> Never played with orange pie boards
<rneese1> Nanopi yea
<rneese1> So what issues u having other then it looks small kernel issue
<Werner> That basically nothing works except boot and network
<rneese1> That's h2+
<rneese1> Look at the nanopi duo 2 board code
<rneese1> Or the nanopi duo it was h2+
<Werner> OPi Zero is H2+, Nanopi duo might be as well. Zero2 however is H616
<rneese1> Ok h616 ?
<Werner> relatively new soc
<Werner> Well it was the same for H6 almost two years ago. Very basic support came with 4.17. 4.17.14 IIRC was first Armbian supporting H6. ethernet was working until 4.18.0-rc7 and and it took a few month until I think 5.1 (?) brought it back. So it will take quite a while until H616 will be in good shape
<rneese1> The duo2 is a h617
<rneese1> H616
<Werner> Um no? It's H3?
<rneese1> Ok but the opi zero2 says it's only h2+
<lp0-on-fire> er, where ? 0-2 I saw was definitely h616
<lp0-on-fire> 0 is h2-plus which is a variant of h3
<Werner> I call the H2+ the balls-cut-off-H3 :D
<lp0-on-fire> lol yeah
<rneese1> But the wifi chip sucks
<stipa> why did they even bother to make h617...
<rneese1> But the overall code works
<stipa> h616*
<Werner> XR819 always sucked but with the 3rd party driver Armbian integrates for quite a while now it became halfway usable
<rneese1> Why is it orandpi n nanopi same chip an and board size did companiea
<rneese1> They should just merge
<rneese1> Lol
<lp0-on-fire> nanopi at least don't put crappy wifi on their board… cough
<rneese1> But the code for duo might help
<rneese1> It's h2 plus
<rneese1> The duo board did but the duo2 fixed it
<lp0-on-fire> Werner: lucky you I guess ;) the first time I tried to use that stupid xr819 chip, the board froze spectacularly. I went with a rtl8811CU wifi dongle
<rneese1> I miss my first board
<rneese1> My beagle bone
<lp0-on-fire> I miss running my odroid c2 :) it was really a nice board
<rneese1> I have a c2 somewhere
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<lp0-on-fire> it ran for almost 5 years without any problem, its just that where I am now I don't have any way to put it back up
<Werner> lp0-on-fire, when did you try?
<lp0-on-fire> Werner: hmm… about 2 weeks or so ago
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<lp0-on-fire> I tried and tried different drivers, finally used the armbian one and… board took about 15 minutes to completely freeze to death
<lp0-on-fire> it took its sweet time to lock up
<lp0-on-fire> first thing to go was serial, but all in all it took 15 minutes for even pid 1 to freeze and sto feeding the hardware watchdog
<lp0-on-fire> *stop
<Werner> You could give it another shot with newer firmware blob
<lp0-on-fire> newer ?
<lp0-on-fire> hmm
<Werner> "newer"
<lp0-on-fire> interesting
<rneese1> I have a u3 also
<lp0-on-fire> the revision I was using was the one buildroot integrates from armbian firmware…
<Werner> Did you try this driver too? https://github.com/dbeinder/xradio/commits/master
<lp0-on-fire> buildroot was on rev 455d6b6701178dafe7fd0168eb4a4ef78a8d24a3
<Werner> Dont know about buildroot
<lp0-on-fire> yep that's the one I tried last
<Werner> okay
<lp0-on-fire> buildroot integrates the armbian firmware git repo as a package from which you can select stuff, and this is the commit it points to in the latest buildroot release
<Werner> The firmware blob I mentioned above is not merged into the firmware repo yet
<ArmbianTwitter> @Poddingue (Bruno Verachten 🍰): @DieZuckerbude @armbian @orangepixunlong Already ? Mine is still stuck in the customs... Guess Armbian will be it's first os after unboxing... 😍 (12s ago)
<lp0-on-fire> right, so I would have to grab it as a patch and apply it on top
<lp0-on-fire> can be done easily
<lp0-on-fire> how fun I just noticed my opi 0 is the 256 mb ram version not the 512 lol
<ArmbianTwitter> @A13_technology (∆13🏳️‍🌈): @Poddingue @DieZuckerbude @armbian @orangepixunlong I'm not the only one having problems with customs. 😶 (26s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @Poddingue @armbian @orangepixunlong Don't expect too much. Besides boot and network mostly nothing works yet 😕 (30s ago)
<Werner> simply replace the current firmware blob and reboot
<lp0-on-fire> ah, yeah
<lp0-on-fire> but I meant for packaging if it actually works
<Werner> Will be merged soon anyways
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<lp0-on-fire> ah good
<lp0-on-fire> happy to test
<Werner> I leave the decision when to merge to igor. Until then as mentioned simply grab the file and put manually
<lp0-on-fire> yeah that's fair
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<ArmbianTwitter> @leonidx86 (Leonid): I wish. #armbian https://t.co/awZvRPd7zs (19s ago)
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<lanefu> Yo
<TRS-80> good morning fellow CLI fanboy
<TRS-80> :D
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* fromport more a vi guy, but still a cli fanboy ;-)
<TRS-80> :)
<TRS-80> you can stay, lanefu is also, but I still like him, too
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<TRS-80> I just noticed, seem to have lost my donator tag
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<IgorPec> TRS-80: we have troubles with subscriptions
<TRS-80> I don't care because vanity, just bug reporting ;)
<TRS-80> you know I ecen saw Werner mentioning that thread, too. Sorry
<TRS-80> s/ecen/even/
<ArmbianHelper> TRS-80 meant to say: you know I even saw Werner mentioning that thread, too. Sorry
<ArmbianTwitter> @RoganDawes (Rogan Dawes): @armbian @OpenwrtH I’ve asked a couple of times on the OpenWrt forum, and been shot down each time. e.g. https://t.co/fbPXakPC0q But this seems to indicate that I was not too far off the mark! (14s ago)
<nekomancer[m]> rneese1: how are you?
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<lanefu> so this is a dumb question, but like whats the fastest RK3399 sbc out there
<lanefu> i mean i guess whate veris RK3399K techniaclly
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<lanefu> but otherwise i guess its contigent on whatever RAM is used
<TRS-80> are you being serious?
<lanefu> yes
<TRS-80> If so, I think like what I replied to that guy "it depends on the application"
<lanefu> no i'm beign specifc RK3399 SOC
<TRS-80> I don't know if that can be separated from the implementation (SBC) however?
<nekomancer[m]> <lanefu "but otherwise i guess its contig"> and cooler system, for sure
<lanefu> mostly ram
<TRS-80> as all those other peripherals seem to me also to have such a combined effect? (I/O comes primarily to mind)?
<lanefu> and cooling/powermangment
<lanefu> rk3399 has some differnetrram optons
<lanefu> PBP is working so well, i'm thining about pivoting to RK3399 desktop SBC
<lanefu> since N2 sitll isnt there
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<TRS-80> I know man, you been raving about it. Great news!
<TRS-80> But NicoD said he didn't like N2 because it's I/O bound. And he is more of desktop daily user. I dunno if you checked out any of those videos I linked to?
<TRS-80> assuming I am recalling correctly, but I think it was N2
<TRS-80> or N2+ or whatever
<archetech> pfrost is in the hands of some kooky kids
<archetech> watched a video of them at college
<TRS-80> even though N2 "on paper" sounds more powerful (and maybe is, in terms of raw power?)
<TRS-80> archetech: I probably don't even want to actually know
* TRS-80 sticks fingers in ears and yells LA LA LA LA LA LA
<archetech> thought about selling mine too
<TRS-80> your N2?
<archetech> n2+ like new
<TRS-80> "I make you good deal!" :D
<lanefu> yeah raw CPU N2 spanks everything
<lanefu> man i've got a rockpi 4c with all the kit in a cart
<lanefu> gonna sleep on it
<lanefu> and think about all the thing si dont need lol
<lanefu> like i literally have an opi4
<lanefu> i could put it out of cluster service and use it and be fine
<lanefu> and its onboard emmc is fast
<lanefu> 4C as a minidisplay port out, which is appealing for my KVM situation
<TRS-80> Certainly you know by now that just because something looks good "on paper" (exciting specs, etc.) does not actually mean jack shit, depending on implementation and software support, etc... That was like lesson #1 to me and why I started coming around Armbian in the first place, I think.
<lanefu> ha yeah
<lanefu> well honestly when i used the N2 with the lgacy kernel
<lanefu> it's just dandy for my uses
<lanefu> but kernel 5.10.0rc6 w/ rk3399 has been such a gamechanger on this pinebook
<lanefu> that it's making me rethink
<lanefu> and also i should be using N2 for testing
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<TRS-80> That is one I know man, your excitement about it been rubbing off on me, too :)
* TRS-80 also puts lots of things in basket all the time and then "sleeps on them" some times for weeks and months
<lanefu> yeah i know that move
<lanefu> yeah i used pbp for 6 hour slast night and still had 44% battery left
<TRS-80> something has to be really, really compelling to me to actually pull the trigger
<TRS-80> much excite, very wow
<lanefu> the TLDR on the pinebook pro is it's obviously abit of a community science project, and in general the fit and finish on it is better than it should be
<lanefu> well maybe not fit, but finish
<lanefu> lol
<lanefu> some people have had to reseat some stuff
<[TheBug]> Buy it! Buy it! Buy it!
* [TheBug] chants at a low register into lanefu's ear
<[TheBug]> ;p
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<[TheBug]> be careful though, you'll get that one and be ordering another shortly after..
<[TheBug]> :Z
* [TheBug] says looking at the 3 he already has in production and the receipt for the 4th on the way
<lanefu> i've mostly learned to stop buying duplicate SBCs, i got in that habbit for a while
<lanefu> then i realized they'll just make more
* TRS-80 have been vaguely aware of PineBook for a long time now as a potential replacement for aging fleet of classic ThinkPads
<TRS-80> how many blobs are involved, though?
<lanefu> define blob
<lanefu> just as many as any of them
<lanefu> bluetoooth.. blob, wifi.. blob
<TRS-80> right, I know
<TRS-80> well, apparently RK-3399-PC is capable to boot without any (piter75 tells me!)
<TRS-80> if those are the only ones, I can maybe live with
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<lanefu> there's a firmware for the keyboard+trackpad, but i think there's a WIP open one?
<lanefu> i cant remember
<lanefu> i appreciate the ideas around firmware openness but not enough to make a large effort to use them
<lanefu> i mean if someone whats to putgether some open firmware adn put a bow on it for me, rock and roll
<lanefu> just not my strength for a contribution / effort / community perspective
<lanefu> alright gonna sort my office and deploy my new super tiny desk
<TRS-80> lol, cheers
<[TheBug]> lanefu: thats fine if your only buying it to play with it, but when you find its actually a productive board for real life use, your motives change :)((
<[TheBug]> almost everything i have thrown at it that I would do it can do well so far
<[TheBug]> Can handle 9x2TB hard drives via SAT + USB 3.0 at 300M/sec or it can play back 4k video and run Android 10 smoothly
<[TheBug]> s/SAT/SATA
<ArmbianHelper> [TheBug] meant to say: Can handle 9x2TB hard drives via SATA + USB 3.0 at 300M/sec or it can play back 4k video and run Android 10 smoothly
<[TheBug]> it can also play almost all the emulated games I have thrown at it
<[TheBug]> n64, dreamcast, psp
<[TheBug]> etc
<[TheBug]> but you having PBP / OPi4 I am sure you already realize this ;p
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<mik_> [TheBug]: which hardware are you talking about?
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<[TheBug]> mik_: RockPi 4c
<mik_> [TheBug]: thx
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<archetech> but can it run kde plasma wayland w/o freeze/crash
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<TRS-80> Where did those goalposts go? They were just right here...
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<ArmbianTwitter> @anovacap (D9): Day 57 #100DaysOfCode #100DaysOfCloud #DevOps. The @thepine64 Baseboard has arrived. They even threw in an extra SOPINE module. Time to start installing @armbian. https://t.co/XxLmYS92me (7s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @anovacap: Day 57 #100DaysOfCode #100DaysOfCloud #DevOps. The @thepine64 Baseboard has arrived. They even threw in an extra SOPINE modul… (24s ago)
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<tete_> hi, can someone tell me whats current state on armbian for odroid n2? especially audio passthrough on hdmi?
<TRS-80> Hi tete_
<TRS-80> https://www.armbian.com/odroid-n2/ says "Supported" and there are no obvious disclaimers, of course that does not mean it works, necessarily of course. I suspect this is some problem you are aware or already? Or?
<TRS-80> No specific results on forums about?
<TRS-80> Someone may be able to answer specifs if you hang out long enough, but it can be hit or miss.
<TRS-80> depending who's around; and it's less busy here on weekends
<tete_> well, there were some problems with hdmi out, guess it was because of this panfrost/bifrost thing
<tete_> thought i'll ask and maybe someone can give me a hint if h265 etc. works
<tete_> or if its just too early yet
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<TRS-80> Hang out, we were just discussing N2 earlier (in general, not that, specifically). You could also look at irc logs from earlier today. http://irc.armbian.com
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<tete_> ok thanks, guess ill just try it on sd card. atm coreelec runs on emmc
<TRS-80> Esp if you have a spare, that's probably fastest, honestly
<TRS-80> You can always make a forum post, too. The problem is only some very small subset of the whole community hang out in IRC.
<TRS-80> sometimes get lucky, some times not
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<stipa> sd cards on N2 boards are truning into the BIOS
<stipa> or something similar
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