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<stipa> i would use VLC maybe
<TRS-80> I think it depends on board and how good "graphics/ desktop" support is on that particular board?
<TRS-80> If you have some spare sdcard, I guess it's easy to try?
<stipa> i do have
<stipa> yeah, better to do it on a spare
<stipa> since current installation works great
<stipa> CLI only
<TRS-80> moving OS is like moving into a new house, so much work :D
<ArmbianTwitter> @VeryMetalDev (Henri VeryMetalDev ⌨️🖥️👨‍🔧🖋️✏️😷): @niknik1971 @IgorOs6 Xubuntu always was, now not too sure if it's going to be Manjaro XFCE. And Ubuntu has been released for Raspberry Pi 4, pretty good, too, everything works out of the box. Graphics geek so going to download Armbian for Orange Pi 3, use it offline for its Mali graphic card. (9s ago)
<stipa> TRS-80: i just have to do it, i have been streaming to chromecast using CLI and it's a nightmare, i would like to make my life less miserable and the desktop environment could do that for me :D
<TRS-80> let us know how it works out!
<stipa> sure
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<stipa> audio over HDMI is WIP on H6 chip
<stipa> bummer
* TRS-80 started watching EmacsConf videos while waiting for latest pandoc to compile
<TRS-80> yeah sorry to hear that
<stipa> :[
<TRS-80> well, you found out at least
<stipa> yeah, good thing i don't even need to try
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<stipa> but, there are some patches
<stipa> there are patches avaialble for around a year but at sunxi webpage it's till WIP
<TRS-80> Why do you think Armbian exists? ;)
<stipa> still WIP * :\
<TRS-80> things could be so much worse...
<stipa> i don't get the politics
<TRS-80> Not sure I follow you?
<stipa> politics of development
<stipa> i need to figure out how to find if patches are applied to the image i use
<nekomancer[m]> no universal methode
<stipa> i see
<lanefu> stipa: which image?
<stipa> i need this to enable HDMI video, audio, acceleration... https://forum.armbian.com/topic/12615-hdmi-multimedia-on-h6/ , my image is Linux orangepilite2 5.9.8-sunxi64 #ifb SMP Fri Nov 20 20:38:13 EST 2020 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<stipa> i don't know if it's already in my image lanefu
<stipa> those patches
<stipa> from the link
<stipa> i see there is cedrus module in libmodules
<stipa> lib/modules *
<stipa> i can't find this one "asoc-simple-card" in my lib/modules
<stipa> for audio
<lanefu> stipa: do an armbianmonitor -u for me please
<stipa> lanefu: http://ix.io/2GW0
<lanefu> yeah dude its in there
<stipa> lanefu: where, what do i need to search in log i have just gave you?
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<lanefu> stipa: `curl http://ix.io/2GW0|fgrep cedrus`
<stipa> lanefu: what about HDMI audio?
<lanefu> can't speak to that
<lanefu> isn't there some sort of kerflufal with that right now?
<stipa> it's WIP on sunxi page
<stipa> in my kernel log [ 35.808792] vcc33-audio-tv-ephy-mac: disabling
<stipa> maybe it enbales when i plug it in TV?
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<stipa> also there is module loaded: dw_hdmi_i2s_audio 16384 0
<ArmbianTwitter> @thepine64 (PINE64): @frkncngz We suggest using @armbian images for the ROCK64. Armbian images contain a handy tool which allow you to set up your board for a variety of functions, including a NAS. Link: https://t.co/y6NOwgJ486 (14s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @thepine64 (PINE64): @frkncngz We suggest using @armbian OS images for the orginal PINE A64 (+). They contain a handy utility which helps you set up the board for a variety of purposes - NAS being among them. Link: https://t.co/0rmJShNxCj (1s ago)
<stipa> this guy also has something to do with it and it's loaded: snd_soc_hdmi_codec 20480 0
<stipa> it could work
<ArmbianTwitter> @chd1998 (Chen Dong): OMV or FreeNAS on Armbian is good enough now... https://t.co/uDxxU4TcvM (27s ago)
<lanefu> stipa: if you believe you can achieve
<stipa> it's not problem to believe, somone has to do it
<stipa> i hope my belief won't fade away tomorrow when i try it out.
<stipa> 'aplay -l' shows nothing, i guess i have to plug HDMI into a TV
<stipa> as i reconcile, soundcard is actually in the TV
<stipa> wrong word, not reconcile but remember
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<greypilgrim[m]> recollect ;)
<stipa> right
<stipa> that's it
<ArmbianTwitter> @anovacap (D9): Day 58 of #100DaysOfCode #100DaysofCloud #DevOps. Used Apple Pi Baker to flash @armbian to a few SD cards. Tomorrow the power supply for the @thepine64 Baseboard will arrive 🎉 (6s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @RoganDawes (Rogan Dawes): @OpenwrtH @armbian And to be clear, I wasn’t asking for help (unless anyone really wants to), just validating my earlier supposition that it was feasible. (1s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @TeeFirefly (T-Firefly): [Armbian] Create an #Armbian Bootable Card for convenient #OS use and switch on #Station PC! #stationp1 #stationm1 #minipc https://t.co/xa6FtZ4hH9 https://t.co/Pro9ctOWNS (28s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @StationGeeker (Station): [Armbian] Create an #Armbian Bootable Card for convenient #OS use and switch on #Station PC! #stationp1 #stationm1 #minipc https://t.co/cLJwlzzjGO https://t.co/dLnrrLdMyd (30s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @thepine64: @frkncngz We suggest using @armbian OS images for the orginal PINE A64 (+). They contain a handy utility which helps you set… (19s ago)
<IgorPec> good morning
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<ArmbianTwitter> @frkncngz (Furkan Cengiz): @thepine64 @armbian you are the best! (12s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @NewChinaGadget (China Gadget Review): Easy Guide - How to create an Armbian Bootable Card for Station PC - China Gadgets Reviews https://t.co/8XNcCX060j via @NewChinaGadget (22s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @Nosluop56 (George P): @thepine64 @frkncngz @armbian From personal experience I definitely agree on @armbian, but I think that setting up your NAS from scratch using the basic utilities will (a) mean that you learn a *lot* and (b) give you a more stable system. 1/2 (25s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @Nosluop56 (George P): @thepine64 @frkncngz @armbian I am using Armbian Focal on a Nanopim4v2 with SATA hat and with 2x drives in a ZFS mirror, Webmin, NFS and SMB shares, smartmontools, snapshots... I found OMV tricky to install, cumbersome and ZFS wouldn't install on Buster. YMMV of course. 2/2 (9s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @Nosluop56 @thepine64 @frkncngz ZFS will also work on Debian based Armbian after upcoming bugfix release https://t.co/oESbQZTLKG (5s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @smurfix (Matthias U): @zoobab @armbian Ohboy. What nonsense. For (almost) the same price you can get a large heatsink. Whatever. There's no good reason (besides "we don't want to reveal our HW bugs" of course) for Broadcom to not open their specs so that somebody could replace this mess with U-Boot. (7s ago)
<lanefu> Mornin!
<IgorPec> morning
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<Werner> Good day
<lanefu> we have snow today
<lanefu> so thats kinda nice
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<rneese> Everyone is fired
<rneese> get out
<rneese> leave your boards and internet connections at the door
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<nekomancer[m]> tred-union reject your claim!
<nekomancer[m]> All goes to https://radicle.xyz/
<IgorPec> we had snow two days ago, all gone :(
<stipa> gone here too
<stipa> great thing i didn't need to clean it
<stipa> i was so happy
<stipa> but at the coast there are some nasty 6 meters waves and floods
<IgorPec> me too, because kids were making noise outside :)
<stipa> nice
<stipa> happy kids happy father
<[TheBug]> no, it's happy wife, happy life :p
<[TheBug]> lol
<[TheBug]> or is it happy wife a lot less strife?
<[TheBug]> all these fun sayings
<IgorPec> happy wife is critical dependency :)
<nekomancer[m]> no woman — no cry
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<stipa> to be honest nothing can make PMS happy.
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<[TheBug]> Young padawan, you have much to learn ;p
<stipa> i'm the dark one
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<stipa> i just do the opposite
<stipa> an i-ll be fine
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<Tony_mac32> nekomancer[m] haha nice.
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<Tony_mac32> Also, since I've been reading about AI a lot recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdD8ObEUA7A
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<stipa> Tony_mac32: Video unavailable
<stipa> This video is not available.
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<stipa> forum.armbian.com is down ?
<stipa> it's back
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): New mirror in Amsterdam! https://t.co/ei6B4JHw4A Thank you @hosthatch for your generosity and awesome hosting! https://t.co/VkxEsKY3cq (1s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @NicoD99364191 (NicoD): @armbian @HostHatch Yeah. They've got great hash in Amsterdam. Oh, it's hatch. Still great news. (27s ago)
<stipa> I see that many guys patch their kernels and it doesn't go into the release beacuse they aren't part of the dev team.
<stipa> like, it's expected from them to becaome a part of the dev team and propose the patch in next release
<stipa> propse inclusion of the patch in the next release*
<stipa> but it rarely happens
<stipa> there are very old solutions floating around the net but not implemented in the Armbian images
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<stipa> bunch of critics
<stipa> nad boards that work 50%
<stipa> :D
<TRS-80> stipa: I might be wrong, however if I would venture a guess, it's probably because ongoing maintenance is important. And patches can affect other things. So they need to be discussed, some times reverted. So value of random one time patch is one thing, where ongoing contribution, discussion, maintenance of family of boards for instance, is another. Also people patch their kernels for different
<TRS-80> reasons, may be appropriate for their individual needs for some reason, but not everyone.
<TRS-80> Also as you say, people are just selfish. Not everyone who is capable of patch wizardry also care enough to share it with others and make things better for everyone.
<stipa> TRS-80: i guess they don't have time to care
<TRS-80> This is why I am thankful for Armbian. They try and sort out all random patches on internet and elsewhere and manage which ones get in and which not. Which require some knowledge. But most importantly, they work and share the result in a fully open (GPL) way. Which is why I choose to contribute here, even though I am by no means any kernel wizard.
<TRS-80> Maybe yes, maybe no. Many people are on the hamster wheel nowadays, yet some manage to /make/ the time anyway.
<TRS-80> Because contribution is important. The only way things improve in any sustainable way.
<stipa> it takes courage to be a developer especially in the open source project.
<TRS-80> You mean, becasue your stuff is out there for all to see? :D
<stipa> i don't know why, but i see many choose to be pussies about it.
<stipa> me included :D
<stipa> so
<stipa> fear of obligation
<stipa> but, to be honest, people probably don't have time
<stipa> or knowledge
<stipa> or it's not their proffession
<TRS-80> could be any or combination of all of those things
<TRS-80> and yet, some people manage to contribute, in spite of all you said ;)
<stipa> must be ove towards it
<stipa> be love*
<TRS-80> even if one take the "selfish" viewpoint, I think argument can be made that we all advance much better by working together
<TRS-80> because re-inventing wheels is just dumb waste of time
<TRS-80> not to mention, uninteresting
<stipa> noone is born with knowlege
<TRS-80> I guess I was talking more about sharing whatever knowledge you have, instead of keeping it to yourself; as we were discussing contribution to F/LOSS
<TRS-80> I would also say that F/LOSS allow you to study the code and learn, especially as a student
<stipa> i had some capitalistic teachers and to them it's not wise to share the knowladge
<TRS-80> were they boomers? XD
<stipa> you get eaten by your own info on the markets
<stipa> but that's in the world where money is normal
<stipa> there are even knowlege not available in schools floating around
<stipa> peeps 10 years in the future
<TRS-80> these would be the dumb people I was referring to earlier, who think it's a good idea to re-invent wheels instead of work together and advance
<TRS-80> anyway, interesting convo stipa, as usual, but I need to get ready and go run some errands :)
<stipa> TRS-80: it's an alternative
<stipa> ok
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