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<kprasadvnsi[m]> How the WiFi/bluetooth firmware loaded at startup in Armbian?
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<Werner> No idea how to do that manually but if correctly installed via apt (firmware-realtek package for example) it does that automatically
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<IgorPec> good morning
<Xogium> hello :)
<ArmbianTwitter> @arraiz0xF (Miko): @OPi_Community @orangepixunlong The image on the official website is outdated, I downloaded another version from the armbian repo, I booted, I did the 'nand-sata-install', but now the board don't boot. I will try to connect to the serial port and see what happens. Btw the board has *serious* heating problems (29s ago)
<Xogium> hahaha
<Xogium> don't I know it !
<Xogium> lol
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @arraiz0xF @OPi_Community @orangepixunlong Check support forums for more clues. Install method was tested, but perhaps recent boot loader upgrade broke it ... https://t.co/HfmO73g5Ze RK3399 is hot ... (3s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @fosshostorg: And there we have it! https://t.co/WsZhuqK2fd is now live #arm #arm64 🔥 (13s ago)
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<buZz> kprasadvnsi[m]: the right filenames should be in /lib/firmware/ somewhere
<buZz> then it'll load it while the driver gets loaded
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<IgorPec> werner: documenation is working ... don't understand that PR. do you?
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<ArmbianTwitter> @arraiz0xF (Miko): @armbian @OPi_Community @orangepixunlong Botted with a debian image and some tweaks, now i will try to re-write the emmc, where can i found the image or kernel releases of this board? Thanks for the attention. (16s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @Superna9999 (Neil Armstrong): @fosshostorg @armbian It’s cool but misleading, so what about all the embedded consumer electronics arm64 socs already out there ? They don’t offer 16GiB of ram nor SBBR but they can definitely run mainline Linux with virtualization and run micro services ! (16s ago)
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<MariaBian> hello guys I'm new here, who can help me to get my x0vncserver autostart at login?
<MariaBian> I've added a .desktop file inside .config/autostart folder but what the command to write on the Exec= line?
<MariaBian> if I lunch this command from terminal "x0vncserver -passwordfile ~/.vnc/passwd -display :0", I'm able to connect but if I insert it on the .desktop file it doesen't autostart at boot
<Werner> IgorPec, yeah just an indentation issue. could have lead into an error when the function was needed
<Werner> MariaBia no clue. try here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tigervnc-users
<Werner> IgorPec, do pictures when unboxing for... well you will notice when you see :P
<MariaBian> nobody here can help me? really?
<archetech> this isnt vncserver support
<MariaBian> yes I understand but maybe is a quick answer that you already know
<MariaBian> I'm a new armbian user, not a generic linux user, and this is not a good start
<archetech> tried google tons of hits there
<Werner> We dont deal much with upstream software but with the low level stuf like hardware/kernel support. So chances are low that somebody here actually played with this particular software
<Werner> Sure you are free to ask but do not expect an answer on such things ;)
<MariaBian> if the answer was ... we don't know, I understood and I thaked but if your answer was ... don't aske here but there for me means that you don't want to offer any help
<kprasadvnsi[m]> i am new to armbian devlopment.
<archetech> nobody can say "we" dont know
<Werner> There was no intention to sound "rude" or something. I am just that kind a guy that wants to put stuff in a nutshell and give a quick answer where your chances are the highest to get the answer you are looking for.
<kprasadvnsi[m]> how can i make changes in kernel source so that it doesn't get reverted at build
<kprasadvnsi[m]> * how can i make changes in kernel source so that it doesn't get reverted at build?
<Werner> kprasadvnsi[m], https://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_Build-Options/ use CREATE_PATCHES
<Werner> this way your changes are still being reverted. THOUGH you will be provided with a patch file cotaining your chances which will be applied to the source before building then
<kprasadvnsi[m]> i am trying to edit a dts file. it look like a long process when i just wanna do some simple trial and error
<Werner> Maybe CLEAN_LEVEL is an option for you
<Werner> Try ./compile.sh CLEAN_LEVEL=debs
<Werner> This will prevent make clean from being executed before building sources
<Werner> Wait, no. That wont work. Its compared against git...
<Werner> Ah, you could combine with OFFLINE_WORK
<kprasadvnsi[m]> nop, that doesn't work either
<Werner> CREATE_PATCHES must work
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<kprasadvnsi[m]> didn't work.
<Werner> Did you copy the create patch files to the correct folder in order for them to get applied?
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<kprasadvnsi[m]> is this the preferred way to do development in the Armbian?
<Werner> Usually yes. This way the original sources keep unmodified and changes are reproducible
<Werner> Just check the patches folder. There you find all the patches Armbian applies over the sources for specific kernel family or mainline Linux
<Werner> or U-Boot of course
<kprasadvnsi[m]> why can't I just edit a file and build to test something quick?
<Werner> I dont know how actual kernel hackers do that. They probably do not use the build script and just compile by hand? ^^
<Werner> I am not a developer. I mostly do documentation and forums moderation
<ArmbianTwitter> @NicoD99364191 (NicoD): New!!! Build #Armbian #Linux now on your #ARM #SBC!!! https://t.co/z9PuqVRzFt via @YouTube (26s ago)
<kprasadvnsi[m]> <Werner "I am not a developer. I mostly d"> Can you ask around?
<Werner> I suggest to simply state your question in forums. chances might be higher to get an answer there
<ArmbianTwitter> @fosshostorg (fosshost): @Superna9999 @armbian We provide VMs/containers with a spec.We provide free service to foss projects.The hardware is difficult to source and we are making it accessible and documenting our https://t.co/I5pyK9DA55’s a new venture for us but the community has been asking and we made it happen! 🙏 (18s ago)
<archetech> kprasadvnsi[m], while at it build us a 5.10 with drm patches :)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @JaggerJo1 (JaggerJo): @sergey_tihon I had other issues with the board (linux Armbian related ...) So I changed direction again as I did not even know if the System.Devices.Gpio would work with that Board. Turns out mono works on ARMv6! But .. (27s ago)
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<mariaban> hello any solution to my n2 that doesn't shutdown or reboot? red light
<mariaban> ...sometimes
<[TheBug]> as in you run shutdown and it doesn't shut off or all the sudden you have a red light>?
<mariaban> yes
<mariaban> same things if I reboot, doesn't reboot and red light preset
<mariaban> present
<neonlightning> i can't seem to get my vita to pair up with my armbian buster desktop. i can pair my laptop running mint and my headphones to the vita just fine and i've used the same bt adapter to connect to my xu4 on a different distro(actually a few distros)
<neonlightning> oh btw i'm running it on a rockpro64
<[TheBug]> mariaban: SO the board works fine but when you go to reboot instead of reboot you get a redlight and it stays off?
<mariaban> [TheBug] right, and same if I shutdown, doesn't shutdown completely
<[TheBug]> neonlightning: not all bluetooth is the same -- the board likely would have to have a driver that tells it how to interact with that device, if is isn't present then it will not pair or fail -- you can probably get an idea of the failure by checking 'dmesg' or logs but likely not something by default compatible
<[TheBug]> mariaban: so doe redlight means its just at like a panic error on screen and then it just sits on?
<[TheBug]> it may be that the shutdown process expects the watchdog to reset but doesn't correctly
<[TheBug]> its not too uncommon an issue actually
<[TheBug]> in general
<[TheBug]> not specific to n2
<mariaban> no errors on the screen, everything seems ok but not able to close the process
<[TheBug]> mariaban: sorry to clarify you would have to be watching UART TTL probably to see that
<[TheBug]> if you only have HDMI hooked you likely see nothing
<[TheBug]> my guess would be you go to shutdown or reboot and it goes through the process, gets to point where watchdog should shut off but instead panics
<[TheBug]> so it just sits there until you remove power and reapply
<[TheBug]> mariaban: are you using most up to date image?
<[TheBug]> mariaban: sometimes this is something that will crop up between versions and switch versions or kernels can have it work normally again
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<[TheBug]> okay then
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<neonlightning> [TheBug]: i can see it in bluetoothctl and the vita shows up as connected for a sec. the vita asks if the pin is correct. nothing pops up on the rp64(well not always sometimes the auth request does but still does the same after i click accept) and then it errors out and disconnects as soon as i click ok on the vita
<[TheBug]> neonlightning: right, cause whatever profile is needed to connect to it correctly isn't available so this will cause it to perform the pair process and then fail to create a sync, therefore won't work -- have same issue with my cheapo xbox bluetooth controller in some versions of android (different versions of BT) where it won't have profile for my controller available -- will act same exact
<[TheBug]> way, will pretend to pair but not work.
<[TheBug]> only other thing I could suggest to try up front
<[TheBug]> 'modprobe xpad'
<[TheBug]> and see if it is caused by you lacking that module
<[TheBug]> if not that maybe search some on google for what module you may need for that device
<neonlightning> it's not for gamepad it's for audio
<neonlightning> i've had it working just intermittently
<[TheBug]> then it doesn't have profile to create sink
<[TheBug]> also different audio devices use differnt codecs
<[TheBug]> could also be the codec provided by the device isn't compatible
<neonlightning> i tried a powered usb hub and a higher amperage psu because i had it working for 20mins playing audio from the vita on my tv just fine. went to bed and woke up and it wasn't working again.
<neonlightning> but when i had it working i had nothing connected but bt adapter and my mouse
<neonlightning> also can't seem to get audio in from the port on the rp64
<neonlightning> and all my audio devices are just listed as built-in audio where as on other os's i've had them listing each as a different name
<neonlightning> i thought it was a power issue after having that(forgot to mention turning down the cpu governor to conservative helped too but doesn't seem to be helping anymore)
<neonlightning> i've tried 3 bt adapters and they work on my other devices(well 2 of them do. actually my cheapest 2) and how would i go about fixing the profile thing?
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<neonlightning> sorry for the flood of text. i've been working on this project for the last week and a half barely sleeping. so i'm a bit frazzled.
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<IgorPec> kprasadvnsi[m]: CREATE_PATCHES="yes" is the best way
<IgorPec> werner lanefu tonymac32 10x :) Cheers later on!
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<Werner> IgorPec, hope you like it :)
<IgorPec> it will be 1st time
<neonlightning> anyone have any suggestions on what i can try. or even other distros that might suit my needs better? best luck i've had sofar was using mrfixit's debian desktop for rockpro64. i just need accelerated mpv or mplayer, bluetooth audio that i can set the sink and source. and uvc camera support. was trying to stay away from using x but i am realizing the only way i'm getting accelerated video in
<neonlightning> anything other than mrfixit's is using mpv
<IgorPec> we only deal here with armbian
<neonlightning> i'm using armbian right now
<IgorPec> for video acceleration, there are few addons
<neonlightning> i've got the video sorted with mpv right now
<IgorPec> what you need then?
<neonlightning> the bt pairing and lack of audio in are my problems right now
<IgorPec> which kernel you are using?
<neonlightning> Linux rockpro64 4.4.213-rockchip64
<IgorPec> well, this probably works ...
<IgorPec> but i don't use desktop / multimedia features
<IgorPec> if you want to play movies, best is to go straigt to Librelece
<neonlightning> no i'm trying to make a vitadock using something other than a pi and i had an n2 and rockpro64.
<[TheBug]> Also for BT try an external BT dongle instead of the built in BT, probably have better luck as built in implementations are usually so-so, I even use a seperate CSR BT dongle in my RPi4 I use for thin client.
<neonlightning> after days of trying i had it working for about 20 minutes. i went to sleep and tried to connect again in the morning and it wasn't working
<neonlightning> i have 3 different bt adapters i've tried the rp64 doesn't have bt built in
<IgorPec> stock legacy kernel 4.4.y for rockpro is not very good quality and it will stay that way
<neonlightning> i couldn't get latency free video out of 5x
<[TheBug]> lol then sounds like the vita device has poor compatability and it is likely some issue there -- if you have tried generic adapters and it still fails as you say
<IgorPec> i know, but people are at least doing something with 5.x
<neonlightning> it won't connect to my phone or headset either
<neonlightning> and both will connect to my laptop just fine using mint,
<IgorPec> drivers shipped with that kernel are usually glued togther at minimal cost
<IgorPec> don't compare mainstream x86 with this :)
<neonlightning> ok well it also worked on my xu4 using the same kernel version(probably not same patches) and same bt adapter
<[TheBug]> use armbian-config and change back to an older kernel and see if it still happens, if it does it could be version of bluetooth tools and I would then try regressing to an older image overall and see if it continues
<IgorPec> all those kernels are private forks
<neonlightning> i couldn't try an older image. the archive for rp64 gives a 403 error...
<IgorPec> ??
<[TheBug]> huh?
<[TheBug]> please provide evidence
<neonlightning> oh it's working today
<neonlightning> yesterday it was giving me 403
<neonlightning> nope still
<neonlightning> 403 Forbidden
<neonlightning> nginx/1.10.3
<IgorPec> ahaa, I see, [thebug] we put it offline there?
<[TheBug]> nope but you can try https://armbian.systemonachip.net/archive
<[TheBug]> not sure what would be going on there on NL mirror
<neonlightning> same
<[TheBug]> will find out
<[TheBug]> hmm
<IgorPec> aha, this is something else
<[TheBug]> IgorPec: do you have wrong permissions on that dir in your archive?
<IgorPec> like a permission issue
<IgorPec> let me check
<[TheBug]> I will go manually fix on the mirror I control
<neonlightning> i'm realizing that these days linux users have really moved away from cli now that people use it as a desktop more regularly
<neonlightning> it's getting harder and harder to find guides for things that don't just tell you to use menus in some x program
<IgorPec> fixed
<IgorPec> in our community I think CLI is still very strong
<[TheBug]> IgorPec: how long till minio is in sync? you have any way to force that , then I could also force sync on the other mirrors
<IgorPec> but add lots of support for desktops in past half year
<IgorPec> minio is synching 0/15 ... i can force it if neededd
<IgorPec> neolightning: if you know or wish to tweak desktops, we are seeking help for that
<[TheBug]> well it looks like you had a bunch of those folders +s and such so probably a good idea to get things in sync O_o
<[TheBug]> neonlightning: any of the previously mentioned mirrors should be fixed, can you confirm?
<[TheBug]> or not hmm
<[TheBug]> ahh there it goes
<[TheBug]> okay
<IgorPec> works for me
<[TheBug]> yeah cache cleared for the page
<[TheBug]> it had cached an empty page for some reason there, not its clear
<neonlightning> the armbiam.com is working
<IgorPec> i have to double check nightly images which are copying stuff there ...
<IgorPec> the scritps
<neonlightning> but i gotta go afk for a bit. i'll be back to work on this later. wish fluxbox was still a common desktop for light os's
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<IgorPec> we created build system that you can add it in no time
<neon^away^lightn> before i got mind tossing a link or some info on it?
<IgorPec> There will also be an annoucement / call for testing but its still preparing. Check https://forum.armbian.com/forum/37-announcements/
<IgorPec> probably those days
<IgorPec> NicoD briefly tested it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G418Bpo9Ypc
<Werner> he also stated to do another video with all the DEs tested
<IgorPec> yes. things are planned to be ready withing few weeks. documentation has been worked on, bugs are beeing hunted
<neon^away^lightn> i'm paranoid about messing with this stuff after i tried switching from mate to fluxbox on mrfixit's debian and somehow broke audio
<neon^away^lightn> i'll wait until there are more made by the community and just make use of that i think
<[TheBug]> so, get something to where you like it and then DD an image of the card / emmc somewhere else, then make your changes... can always just dd the image back and be right where you were
<[TheBug]> takes extra time but not really that much when you consider you can simply start the re-image and go get a cold coke and come back
<[TheBug]> SBCs are all about testing / experimenting / making it work how you want
<[TheBug]> you shouldn't be afraid to test things
<[TheBug]> just have a method to back-up before you break
<[TheBug]> :)
<IgorPec> get extra SD card and experiment if you don't want to break your install
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<ArmbianTwitter> @kryptokidz_ (KryptoKidz, kycless finance): @start9labs Does the image only work for RPIs currently? Looking for an @armbian image to try out! (14s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @start9labs (Start9 Labs): @kryptokidz_ @armbian Yes, Pi 4 only at present. (27s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @kryptokidz_ (KryptoKidz, kycless finance): @start9labs @armbian Okay, I have some @thepine64 products I'd like to try it on, especially the laptops or even the phones since it's a pruned node (13s ago)
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