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<buZz> where can i find the dts for imx6 udoo?
<buZz> where can i find the dts for imx6 udoo?
<buZz> i guess i could decompile dtb but meh
<buZz> i guess i could decompile dtb but meh
<buZz> :)
<buZz> :)
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<SLAzuri> Hey guys, has anyone used balbes150's armbian fork? I'd like to know how to build an image for AML s812 but I don't know how because there's no docs for it (unless i'm blind)
<SLAzuri> Hey guys, has anyone used balbes150's armbian fork? I'd like to know how to build an image for AML s812 but I don't know how because there's no docs for it (unless i'm blind)
<buZz> if he forked entire armbian , you could just follow the build docs of armbian?
<buZz> if he forked entire armbian , you could just follow the build docs of armbian?
<buZz> start here, perhaps, https://github.com/150balbes/build
<buZz> start here, perhaps, https://github.com/150balbes/build
<SLAzuri> I checked it, but doesn't mention anyhow for that SoC
<SLAzuri> I checked it, but doesn't mention anyhow for that SoC
<buZz> well i doubt 150balbes found it useful to write documentation for it then :P
<buZz> well i doubt 150balbes found it useful to write documentation for it then :P
<SLAzuri> when i use the compile.sh script, it doesn't list any of his images that he currently releases for download
<SLAzuri> when i use the compile.sh script, it doesn't list any of his images that he currently releases for download
<SLAzuri> yea thats my thought
<SLAzuri> yea thats my thought
<SLAzuri> so now when i try to use his files i cant figure out anything and thus why i ask here
<SLAzuri> so now when i try to use his files i cant figure out anything and thus why i ask here
<buZz> i have no idea what his fork adds or why he's not just committing upstream :P
<buZz> i have no idea what his fork adds or why he's not just committing upstream :P
<SLAzuri> this fork is basically adding support to unsupported hardware, which is why it must be kept separate from the main repo
<SLAzuri> this fork is basically adding support to unsupported hardware, which is why it must be kept separate from the main repo
<SLAzuri> it converts android tv boxes to be used as SBCs
<SLAzuri> it converts android tv boxes to be used as SBCs
<SLAzuri> more or less
<SLAzuri> more or less
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<buZz> doesnt adding support to unsupported hardware make them supported hardware?
<buZz> doesnt adding support to unsupported hardware make them supported hardware?
<SLAzuri> its unofficial
<SLAzuri> its unofficial
<buZz> whats the gain of being unofficial? :P
<buZz> whats the gain of being unofficial? :P
<SLAzuri> and since its a common image for so many different hardware, theres only gonna be bugs left and right
<SLAzuri> and since its a common image for so many different hardware, theres only gonna be bugs left and right
<SLAzuri> his images basically revives any crappy cheap obsolete android tv laying around so that the could be repurposed again
<SLAzuri> his images basically revives any crappy cheap obsolete android tv laying around so that the could be repurposed again
<buZz> but not yours?
<buZz> but not yours?
<SLAzuri> yes mine
<SLAzuri> yes mine
<SLAzuri> my android tv box was always stuck on android 4.4 and with a pretty sktchy skin
<SLAzuri> my android tv box was always stuck on android 4.4 and with a pretty sktchy skin
<buZz> there's a tvbox on armbian.com/download/ too i see ; https://www.armbian.com/xt-q8l-v10/
<buZz> there's a tvbox on armbian.com/download/ too i see ; https://www.armbian.com/xt-q8l-v10/
<buZz> oh, a bunch of em
<buZz> oh, a bunch of em
<buZz> oooo cubox-i is supported? i think i have that somewhere
<buZz> oooo cubox-i is supported? i think i have that somewhere
<SLAzuri> the goal of that repo is to make one image that works on many models
<SLAzuri> the goal of that repo is to make one image that works on many models
<buZz> SLAzuri: yes its a fork of the official armbian repo that does the exact same
<buZz> SLAzuri: yes its a fork of the official armbian repo that does the exact same
<buZz> its one repo to build all the different armbian images
<buZz> its one repo to build all the different armbian images
<SLAzuri> i meant like one image that works on many different models
<SLAzuri> i meant like one image that works on many different models
<buZz> yeah many tvboxes share a ton if not exact same internals i bet
<buZz> yeah many tvboxes share a ton if not exact same internals i bet
<SLAzuri> yea exactly
<SLAzuri> yea exactly
<buZz> i think we have a pile of unused tvboxes somewhere at the hackerspace too
<buZz> i think we have a pile of unused tvboxes somewhere at the hackerspace too
<buZz> some guy even made a cpumining rig with 20 of em once, iirc
<buZz> some guy even made a cpumining rig with 20 of em once, iirc
<SLAzuri> haha yea i think i can recall that article
<SLAzuri> haha yea i think i can recall that article
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<armedguard> anyone  knows a sbc or other device (smartphone, notebook ...) which uses bare nand (and has the controller for the storage in the main cpu/ic) ?
<armedguard> most boards and cheaper arm notebooks use either emmc or similar external storage like sd cards
<Xogium> to be fair eMMC and sd card are much much easier to deal than it is to deal with nand
<armedguard> certainly, there is probably a reason why people choose those instead of bare nand
<Xogium> yeah, they cost less, and all the heavy lifting is done for you, you don't have to deal with wear leveling or anything
<armedguard> i've been wondering though, on some modern notebooks and iirc smartphones there is an integrated "ssd" , the mac air m1 is an example;     the mac m1 is more or less just a big smartphone, which usually is similar to the average arm sbc
<armedguard> and in these cases it *looks* like they use bare nand]
<armedguard> i'm not 100% sure about this though
<armedguard> and how they deal with controlling it
<Xogium> I really have no idea…
<armedguard> np, it seems to be a rare case or not used at all; however most ssds; sd cards, usb sticks ... have some (arm) controller for managing the underlying nand, so why not integrate it in the main ic?
<armedguard> here are some pics with description of the chips
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<adds68> Hi all trying to build armbian on a fedora 33 machine using Docker and i am seeing this error: "[ error ] ERROR in function install_deb_chroot [ image-helpers.sh:148 ]
<adds68> Have a missed some foo when following the "build with Docker instructions" ?
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<lanefu> adds68: i've been hitting that a lot.. i thikn we have a bug in the rootfs builds right now.... BUT if you're building whole images rather than kernels, its best to use a whole VM, because it has to mount the image being built as /dev/loopX etc
<lanefu> adds68: what board / distro etc are you building for
<adds68> oh interesting, i didn't realise you had to mount the image to write to it, but that makes sense
<adds68> The Rock64 in the pinebook pro /buntu + gnome
<adds68> ubuntu*
<lanefu> Rock64 is RK3328... pienbook pro is Rk3399
<lanefu> 3388
<lanefu> anyway Rock64Pro has Rk3399 like pinebook pro
<lanefu> anyway start with making jsut a server image to see if you can get a win.. there's some variables in teh desktop build
<lanefu> by default the root filesysetms are prebuilt periodically and cached on the interwebs to speed thigns up
<lanefu> because installing packages requires running everytyhing in QEMU emulating arm.. adn its slow
<adds68> Ahh nice, so that should just pull the cached state
<adds68> ok i shall try
<lanefu> yeah,,, dependin gon the desktop package permutation
<lanefu> we use to just build XFCE adn that was it.. the modular desktop build stuff is still quite new
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<lanefu> the USE_TORRENT=no build option may help with that debootstrap error too
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<IgorPec> adds68: pingbook pro building is currently broken
<IgorPec> boards that have some special handling like pbpro are having this problem, while others work
<lanefu> IgorPec: on is our BSP package interferring with files from other packages?
<IgorPec> yes
<lanefu> s/on/oh, /
<ArmbianHelper> lanefu meant to say: IgorPec: oh, is our BSP package interferring with files from other packages?
<IgorPec> desktop and bsp mess
<IgorPec> myy is working on it
<lanefu> intersting.... I ran into that when i first added stuff... but i also solved it
<lanefu> the desktop stuff is really inconsitent about where it wants to inheret bnaes configs.. sometimes /usr/local/share/xxxx sometimes /usr/share. some /etc/xsxdxzcv
<adds68> where does the docker image store the cache folders and config files it creates?
<adds68> i can't see in the directory i ran the script from
<adds68> thanks for the heads up IgorPec
<lanefu> honestly i never use the docker method
<IgorPec> normally our builds work, but this time it was a huge merge, lots of changes and ... we missed
<lanefu> typically there's 2 folders build/output and build/cache
<IgorPec> honestly i expece more troubles :)
<lanefu> IgorPec: speaking of which.. really should make a job ot do those desktop rootfs on worksonarmiban box.... maybe you can give me some scripts that i can implement?
<IgorPec> this is it, but spun extra vm for this
<IgorPec> if we are going to use it in production
<lanefu> yeah good point
<IgorPec> currently cache rebuild works on hirsute host
<IgorPec> but you can't succesfully build hirsute / bullseye image also if cache is present
<lanefu> ohh okay... yeah so i should make a hirsute vm for that for sure
<IgorPec> due to qemu bug
<lanefu> .... ] Installing [ armbian-focal-desktop-gnome_21.05.0-trunk-desktop-preview_all.deb ]
<lanefu> [ error ] ERROR in function install_deb_chroot [ image-helpers.sh:148 ]
<lanefu> [ error ] Installation of /root/armbian-focal-desktop-gnome_21.05.0-trunk-desktop-preview_all.deb failed [ rock64 focal yes rockchip64
<lanefu> womp womp
<lanefu> i wonder if this is just gnome that's jacked up
<IgorPec> don0t know, havem't build an image for a 1-2w
<IgorPec> now working on rma papers for ssd
<lanefu> gonna try mate just for grins
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<ArmbianTwitter> @NicoD99364191 (NicoD): TwisterOS Armbian V2 is just amazing on my NanoPi M4V2. Finally mainline is better than legacy on RK3399. RK3399's are awesome desktop/gaming devices. Waiting for the RK3588... https://tinyurl.com/yk3sebzm (14s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @NicoD99364191 (NicoD): Link to TwisterOS Armbian. https://t.co/d57uwfnDj6 https://tinyurl.com/ydoaus92 (30s ago)
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<lanefu> IgorPec: yeah looking at the desktop postint script i don't know how the hell it _would_ work ot be honest
<IgorPec> hehe
<IgorPec> yeah, its messed up. that's all i know
<IgorPec> plan is to add separate desktop bsp package
<IgorPec> where board specific desktop stuff goes in
<IgorPec> and in desktop only generic stuff
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