#armbian on 2021-03-22 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

00:20 <vegii> Hi. Is it normal to have to restart an SBC some time after first run with a freshly written microsd card, or should it boot into OS on its own when it's finished expanding the filesystem etc. ?

00:22 <vegii> my opizero2 doesn't appear to get a DHCP lease even after power cycling it (several hours after powering it up with a fresh card)

00:27 <vegii> sha256sum of the image is correct and well, it does something since the card is formatted differently after powering it up

00:31 <vegii> huh... it got a lease as soon as I've connected it to the wifi router's 10/100 switch directly, but not over an external gigabit switch

00:34 <lanefu> Opi zero2 is still in early days so quriks like that arent surprising

00:35 <vegii> tried different cable and port, same behavior

00:42 <vegii> trioed a "passive poe" 2-pair cable to force it to use 10/100 on a gigabit switch, same behavior

00:44 <vegii> (I've tried pinging it while it was connected to different ports on the same network)

00:46 <vegii> additionally, couldn't get any response from pinging its ipv6 lease address. ipv4 only worked without an extra unmanaged switch in the way

01:07 <lanefu> Yeah id say ethernet isnt working. As mentioned its in early stages and only community supported

01:25 <vegii> not complaining, just reporting a bug

01:28 <lanefu> Roger. Thanks for sharing

01:51 <vegii> Thanks for a lot of things, including getting the Realtek ethernet adapter to sort of work

04:31 <mangix> so

04:31 <mangix> is armbian focal supposed to be ubuntu?

04:32 <mangix> asking since buster has a really big issue with 32-bit devices

06:17 <ArmbianTwitter> @philiph (Philip J. Hollenback): @taupehat @ameridroidSBC Mostly zigbee with a usb dongle. I already have a working setup on a lower powered odroid board running armbian. https://tinyurl.com/yhdn95c5 (30s ago)

07:28 <lanefu> mangix: yes. https://docs.armbian.com/#what-is-armbian

09:03 <yang> hello, is the bananapi Armbian distro making a separate boot partition, I think I only have one partition with /boot directory in it

09:03 <yang> and all the rest as /

09:22 <binarym> yang: what is the ouput of mount command ?

09:57 <IgorPec> yang: yes

09:57 <IgorPec> one partition.

10:01 <yang> hello IgorPec

14:27 <ArmbianTwitter> @MayaPosch (Maya Posch): Couple of days of exposure to Pine64 hardware and I'm compiling my own bleeding-edge Armbian images with custom DTBs. This is how it starts, doesn't it? :) https://tinyurl.com/yh5gp26d (29s ago)

14:31 <buZz> weird

14:31 <buZz> apt.conf.d has 3 or 4 different files about unattended-upgrade

14:31 <buZz> i disabled all of them in there (set to 0, incl apt::periodic::enable)

14:31 <buZz> yet it -still- spawns unattended-upgrades

14:34 <lanefu> buZz: there's a systemd service

14:34 <lanefu> to disable

14:34 <lanefu> root@pineh64-b:/mnt/docker_app_data/linx-server# systemctl --type=service|fgrep -i upgrade

14:34 <lanefu> unattended-upgrades.service loaded active running Unattended Upgrades Shutdown

14:36 <buZz> thanks

14:36 <buZz> root@jarvis:~# systemctl disable unattended-upgrades.service

14:36 <buZz> eh

14:36 <buZz> lol, wrong system

14:36 <buZz> :P

14:37 <buZz> right, woop

16:18 <PPA> The Orange Pi PC costs 21.5 € now

16:18 <PPA> Lats year I bought one for 13.5 €

16:18 <PPA> crazy

16:21 <[TheBug]> yeah but they also probably haven't produced them in a year and because of chip shortage don't plan to anytime soon (especially since H3 is gettingf pretty old) so its probably that as their stock gets lower, price will go up (supply / demand)

16:28 <sunshavi> too bad. cherry-pi?

16:34 <lanefu> yeah all the Opi stuff went up

16:34 <lanefu> less appealing now

16:38 <[TheBug]> no don't buy garbage just because you want an H3 -- if your going to buy an H3 and intend to use it long term, just get the OPi Plus 2E - best bang for your buck even if it is more expensive

16:38 <lanefu> yeah plus2e is still the best h3 board for sure

16:38 <sunshavi> 50 bucks

16:38 <[TheBug]> quality memory that has decent memory clocks, decent quality emmc, etc

16:38 <lanefu> mine have been in service for 4 years

16:38 <lanefu> emmc is fast as shit

16:38 <[TheBug]> you get what you pay for

16:38 <buZz> whats the best armbian board with sata nowadays? i'm running a dogecoin wallet on a udoo quad, and it takes ~3 minutes to startup :P

16:38 <lanefu> specifically i have 4 in service

16:39 <[TheBug]> buZz: well technically Odroid HC4 is the newest / easiest

16:39 <lanefu> yeah i think HC4 is a really good place to start

16:39 <buZz> is that any better specs than HC1 or HC2?

16:40 <[TheBug]> But you can easily add a pcie x4 port to any rk3399 pretty much (most offer either m.2 slot (Raxda, FriendlyArm) or specialized PCI adapter (OPi)) so you can put in a regular sata card and hook up drives that way no issues

16:40 <lanefu> buZz: yes.. same SoC has Odroid C4.. and has PCI-based Sata controller instead of USB-based

16:40 <buZz> do they all have 2GB ram?

16:40 <[TheBug]> or in t he case of RockPro64 the PCIe slot is built onto the board

16:40 <[TheBug]> most rk3399 have 4GB

16:40 <buZz> well, even usbsata would be fine

16:41 <[TheBug]> If you mean HC4, 4GB as well

16:41 <[TheBug]> buZz: eww

16:41 <[TheBug]> then why don't you buy a few port multipliers while your at it

16:41 <buZz> i just need a single disk

16:41 <[TheBug]> I mean if you don't care about your data, there are a lot of things you can do ;p

16:41 <buZz> the data isnt important

16:41 <buZz> its just a blockchain mirror

16:42 <buZz> it'll get validated on usage

16:42 <[TheBug]> lol then why not just get an external USB drive to start and hook it to your PC?

16:42 <sunshavi> are you mining?

16:42 <buZz> sunshavi: no, building a ATM

16:42 <buZz> my PC is a bit too 'big' for being a ATM :P lol

16:43 <buZz> [TheBug]: not everything with a disk is a NAS ;)

16:47 <[TheBug]> Where did I say NAS

16:47 <[TheBug]> I said if you cared about your data lol

16:48 <[TheBug]> but about the time you talk about just hooking a USB drive to it

16:48 <[TheBug]> I would again wonder why you wouldn't just hook it to your pc lol

16:49 <[TheBug]> especially since your talking about hooking it to a USB 2.0 ARM board essentially

16:49 <[TheBug]> so your throughput will be limited to 40M/sec or less

16:54 <sunshavi> buZz: nice. I would be interested on knowing how mining goes on an ARM SBC

16:54 <buZz> 40MB/s is about 40x faster than i need realistically

16:54 <buZz> sunshavi: ATM, not a miner

16:55 <buZz> but fyi, all bitmain.com's ASICs have a beagleboard-alike system internally to run the mining software

16:55 <sunshavi> TheBug: I was not aware there were so many problems with cherry-pi. Advertising says it is like an opi-pc even the same dtb should work out of the box

17:01 <[TheBug]> I mean what are you going to use it for

17:01 <[TheBug]> my point to you is your taking a gamble on quality of parts

17:01 <[TheBug]> that thing looks like barest BOM of all

17:02 <[TheBug]> considering the lowest version doesn't even come with 1GB memory

17:02 <[TheBug]> there are a ton of H3s out there with absolute shite memory attached to it

17:02 <[TheBug]> sure it works, if you downclock memory a ton.. etc

17:03 <[TheBug]> all I am saying is spend the extra 5$ and get somethign reliable -- I would buy the OPi over it, but I would also suggest if your going to use H3 at all you just get a real H3 board like OPi Plus 2E

17:05 <sunshavi> I have two SBC's: opi+2e. the one I am on irc-client at this moment. and opipc (where I try different distros, OS's). I am thinking on buying another opipc for putting netbsd and using it as an AP (and having mobile wifi on rural areas).

17:34 <lanefu> Plus2e also has dedicated usb 2

17:34 <lanefu> 2.0 host on each usb port

17:34 <lanefu> Which is rad

18:06 <ArmbianTwitter> @adds68 (Adam Jones): @AlexRob12252696 @thepine64 Hey Alex, any idea if wayland is now supported in the latest armbian images for the pinebook pro? https://tinyurl.com/yk6zsnj2 (3s ago)

23:55 <ArmbianTwitter> @JohnDowdell (John Dowdell): @MayaPosch Recently pulled in this direction also. I probably wouldn't have gone so far down the rabbit hole if it had all been armbian-config menu options. https://tinyurl.com/yzgp7x5d (18s ago)