#armbian on 2021-03-23 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

01:44 <ArmbianTwitter> @lanefu (Lane Jennison): @adds68 @AlexRob12252696 @thepine64 Armbian is still on Xorg. The project needs more devs for desktop and we are also looking for a maintainer for the Pinebook Pro. Generally thats testing, QA work. Coding skills isnt a requirement. https://tinyurl.com/yh7ekgse (8s ago)

08:45 <ArmbianTwitter> @MayaPosch (Maya Posch): @JohnDowdell For me ambian-config doesn't even work. The System -> Hardware module just throws an error across Armbian installations, and the WiFi configuration module broke something, so I had to delete that config and do it by hand. Bit of a learning experience :) https://tinyurl.com/yev556rs (31s ago)

13:17 <adds68> Hey lanefu it's adds68 from twitter o/

13:23 <lanefu> adds68: hey!

13:37 <lanefu> adds68: so rundown really is we've got a new framework for building several different desktop types.... xfce, gnome, mate, cinamomon, budgie etc

13:38 <lanefu> and for some devices we have some extra configs we install during build or in our board-specific deb package.... aka stuff like this https://github.com/armbian/build/tree/master/packages/bsp/pinebook-pro

13:39 <lanefu> but typically we don't have a lot of deep focus on getting those types of thigns dialed in

13:40 <lanefu> so finding gaps, and being able to share like revised / improved configs like those can help 100000%

13:41 <lanefu> other types of testing comes in the form of "we've made X updates/changes for RK3399-based systems" is there any collateral damage downstream to specific devices

13:42 <lanefu> ex: we had an update that imrpvoe allwinner h6 stuff, but specifically broke the nic on the orangepioneplus... despite being fine on Orangepi3, Pineh64b... (bothe same soc)

14:05 <adds68> Oh wow that is cool, so you can build your own custom images using that tool?

14:06 <adds68> I can certainly build stuff for the pinebook pro and i also have the rock64 SBC i can test on

14:06 <adds68> The only thing i had trouble with, is understand how to flash the EMMC on the pinebook

14:13 <lanefu> adds68: yeah the build tool actualy makes it really easy to build custom images (once undersatnding a few of the tools quirks) ther's lots of hooks for tweaks and customizations..

14:14 <lanefu> adds68: for installing to emmc.. there's a script provided in armbian called /usr/sbin/nand-sata-install

14:14 <lanefu> it needs some love, but totally works

14:15 <lanefu> https://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_User-Configurations/#user-provided-image-customization-script

14:19 <lanefu> easiest way to use the build tools is just to spin up a bigass ubuntu VM

14:20 <lanefu> and here's a pro-tip that can bite you otherwise https://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_Build-Preparation/#using-alternate-armbian-builder-repos-and-branches

14:22 <adds68> Nice, i think i should start with trying to install vanilla armbian and then see how i can better test/improve

14:22 <adds68> Curious to see if https://docs.armbian.com/Hardware_Rockchip/ is still valid on mainline?

14:23 <adds68> Mainly around the USB-C port

14:24 <lanefu> that should be updated a bit since panfrost is working with mainline

14:25 <lanefu> there's been decent results with usb-c for display.. i havent experimented personally..

14:26 <lanefu> rneese is tinkering with some of that now with device tree stuff

14:27 <lanefu> for ROCK64 you'll need to use the EXPERT=yes flag... we moved that board to community support because there's liek 3 version of the board and it can be pretty flaky

14:27 <lanefu> like there's that windfall of cheap v2 boards that were from that goofy security appliance floating around

14:27 <lanefu> mine used to drop dead after 3 days even at idle

14:32 <lanefu> anyway the 3 touchpoints you care about for tweaking are userpatches/config-default.conf userpatches/lib.conf userpatches/customize-imagee.sh

14:33 <lanefu> s/lib.conf/lib.config/

14:33 <ArmbianHelper> lanefu meant to say: anyway the 3 touchpoints you care about for tweaking are userpatches/config-default.conf userpatches/lib.config userpatches/customize-imagee.sh

14:34 <lanefu> but you can literally just use the tui to kick off an image build iwthout any configs locally

14:40 <lanefu> my favorite build flag is probably ROOTFS_TYPE=btrfs

14:41 <adds68> Ah i didn't realise there were also 3 revisions on the board

14:41 <adds68> but nice that is also cool!

14:44 <lanefu> yeah pineh64 was a bit fast in loose in earlier days

14:44 <lanefu> i'm not expert, but my vibe is they somehwhat have their act together

14:46 <ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @MayaPosch Could you send the full output together with the board you are using to https://t.co/MR7V5ZhqDR ? So maybe somebody is able to reproduce. https://tinyurl.com/ye92ebhh (29s ago)

14:48 <lanefu> adds68: and here's like a bit of a background on the climate of the SBC world https://forum.armbian.com/topic/483-support-of-raspberry-pi/?do=findComment&comment=121142

14:58 <lanefu> Werner: she's on a pinecube i think

14:59 <Werner> Then my bet is never ever tested armbian-config on this thing ^^

15:00 <lanefu> yep

15:00 <lanefu> i mean the only persont hat had a pinecube was icenowy

15:00 <Werner> yeah

15:00 <Werner> Well then armbian-config is not expected to work properly but might be worth a look anyways

15:02 <ArmbianTwitter> @lanefu (Lane Jennison): @DieZuckerbude @MayaPosch The only @armbian contributor that had a @thepine64 pinecube was icenowy (hint hint).. So Armbian-config probably wasn't even tested. https://tinyurl.com/yel9v2ng (28s ago)

15:03 <lanefu> and that concludes my social media blitz for the day

15:03 <[TheBug]> lol

15:03 <Werner> haha

15:04 <lanefu> feeling pretty good since I tricked adds68 into coming into irc

15:04 <[TheBug]> lol

15:04 <[TheBug]> nice :)

15:05 <lanefu> as long as nobody on reddit calls me a stain on the open source community we're good

15:05 <[TheBug]> lol

15:26 <ArmbianTwitter> @MayaPosch (Maya Posch): @lanefu @DieZuckerbude @armbian @thepine64 Right, so I'm probably one of the first people to even try running it on Ambian/PineCube :) https://tinyurl.com/yga4tnzg (7s ago)

15:43 <ArmbianTwitter> @lanefu (Lane Jennison): @MayaPosch @DieZuckerbude @armbian @thepine64 yeah totally VIP pinecuber https://tinyurl.com/yf79hnnm (20s ago)

16:00 <buZz> hmmmz, seems UDOO wrote a specific kernel driver

16:01 <buZz> to be able to use the arduino onboard

16:01 <buZz> https://github.com/UDOOboard/linux_kernel/blob/3.14-1.0.x-udoo/drivers/misc/udoo_ard.c

16:02 <buZz> does anyone know if armbian's udoo kernel has similar?

16:02 <buZz> i dont really want to move back to 3.14 , lol

16:08 <buZz> hmm https://github.com/graugans/meta-udoo/issues/16

16:11 <IgorPec> there is something, but not sure if enough https://github.com/armbian/build/tree/master/patch/kernel/imx6-current

16:12 <IgorPec> in any case untest

16:15 <buZz> that does seem to be that driver, thanks

16:15 <buZz> ahh, they patched bossac for flashing aswell , hmm

16:23 <ArmbianTwitter> @cr1901 (William D. Jones): @leftpaddotpy @steveklabnik @mycoliza I can live w/ cross-compiling, even setting up the paths manually- as I do to cross-compile NetBSD stuff. My issue is mainly duplicating the flags used to build the gcc and glibc, since the system in question runs Armbian. Would be nice if Debian packages provided a >> https://tinyurl.com/ydoteo57 (30s ago)

19:29 <tomjtoth> hello

19:29 <tomjtoth> does anyone know where I can find the most up-to-date s912 images based on/including the mainline kernel?

19:29 <tomjtoth> I've been monitoring

19:29 <tomjtoth> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/12162-single-armbian-image-for-rk-aml-aw-aarch64-armv8/

19:29 <tomjtoth> for ~a year, but last october the post-thread got locked, I also found from the documentation:

19:29 <tomjtoth> "Amlogic S805 and S905 (Odroid boards), S802/S812, S805, S905, S905X and S912 (fork by @balbes150 )"

19:29 <tomjtoth> I'm confused, the yandex link in the first page of the thread still contains builds from last october, will there be more?

19:33 <[TheBug]> you seem to have left out a key piece of information from your request

19:33 <[TheBug]> which specific board are you trying to use?

19:46 <tomjtoth> "km8 p" 1GB, I didn't think it would matter since that image is for many many boards

19:46 <[TheBug]> right, so a TV Box

19:46 <[TheBug]> then the answer is pretty much WYSIWYG

19:47 <tomjtoth> "gxm_q201_1g" is the dtb

19:47 <[TheBug]> most of those boards are CSC or COmmunity support

19:47 <[TheBug]> so unless they are listed at https://www.armbian.com/download/ then what youa re seeing in the forums is probably it

19:47 <[TheBug]> cause I know balbes got tierd of supporting tv boxes

19:47 <[TheBug]> so he wasn't really releasing many updates

19:48 <[TheBug]> easiest way would probably be to post in the forum, maybe in that thread and ask if anyone knows of newer images

19:48 <[TheBug]> as I don't have one of thoe boards, I haven't tracked it my self

19:49 <tomjtoth> am I supposed/able to post in those threads once they're closed/locked?

19:49 <[TheBug]> if its locked that may even be the thread where he says he isn't gonna do much more with it I think

19:49 <[TheBug]> maybe worth then just posting your own thread to ask if you can't find another one open on the same topic

19:50 <tomjtoth> meeeh, I'll wait a few months/years and get back to it if I get annoyed with those TV boxes sitting in a plastic toolbox :D

19:51 <tomjtoth> thank you for answering! I hope someone picks up the development where balbes left it