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<mangix>
anyone know what the deal is with mvebu and not supporting higher speed SD cards?
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<LRN>
What's the default keyboard layout switching combo in Armbian?
<LRN>
(when running only the terminal, no X11)
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<binarym>
LRN: you mean a special key combination to switch between different keyboard layout ?
<binarym>
setxkbmap is supposed to change keyboard map at runtime
<f476>
.13
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<eicloud>
is there any sbc which can do sr-iov i.e. create multiple virtual nics from a single nic?
<eicloud>
alternatively an sbc with pcie slot, iirc there are a couple of those, but i'm not sure if there still needs to be hardware support from the sbc itself
<binarym>
eicloud: what is your purpose
<binarym>
cause multiple virtual nics from a single nic can't be easily achieved with
<binarym>
1/ VLANs
<binarym>
2/ address aliases on NIC
<binarym>
it's not depending on hardware imho, pure software
<[TheBug]>
I think you meant can?
<binarym>
yeah, sorry :)
<binarym>
eicloud: ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev bla0 => add the address 1.2.3.4 to device bla0
<[TheBug]>
but past that, there are only a few devices that will have working mini-pcie which you can convert, you the two that come quickest to mind are rk3399 (RockPi 4c, NanoPi M4v2, RockPro64) or ESPRESSOBin which also already has a 3 x 1Gbit topaz switch, so if you just want some networking switch or something, it may be able to do what you need out of box.
<[TheBug]>
You would have to really give more information though if you want a more specific recommendation.
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<binarym>
damn ... i just looked up to "sr-iov" that eicloud mentionned ...
<binarym>
and i still can't figure out his needs :)
<LRN>
binarym, yes, i meant that
<LRN>
um...i have no idea what setxkbmap is. And even if i knew, i would not have been able to use it, since my keyboard layout is not en_US
<[TheBug]>
huh? it prompts you on first boot to choose your keymap.. so not even sure what your discussing per se, but unless you don't have a screen plugged in it will both prompt to change passwords as well as set keyboard map on first boot
<LRN>
i can't even log in after rebooting, because keyboard layout sticks, and because my login only uses ascii
<LRN>
yes
<[TheBug]>
if your not paying attention and just hitting enter all the way through, thats on you
<LRN>
on first boot it figured out from my timezone that i need extra keyboard layouts. I said "yes". It added an extra layout, and immediately switched to that layout, without ever telling me how to switch back.
<eicloud>
it is usually used for virtualization and offers better separation between networks
<eicloud>
or better isolation of virtual machines
<LRN>
So right now i have 2 viable option that i was able to find: 1) use alt+KEYNUM to input needed ascii chars one by one to log in and change something. 2) re-flash Armbian on the sd-card, and re-do the whole installation again, this time not opting in for another layout
<LRN>
s/option/options/
<ArmbianHelper>
LRN meant to say: So right now i have 2 viable options that i was able to find: 1) use alt+KEYNUM to input needed ascii chars one by one to log in and change something. 2) re-flash Armbian on the sd-card, and re-do the whole installation again, this time not opting in for another layout
<LRN>
if you don't have any useful advice, i'd just do one or the other, so it's no big deal. Still, it'd be nice to learn how to switch between keyboard layouts in the console.
<LRN>
dixi
<LRN>
h-m-m...or is it "dixit"? I forgot.
<[TheBug]>
LRN: I am not understanding the issue there, it is working as it's supposed to, you should set it on first boot and you really shouldn't have to change it
<[TheBug]>
if you need to, then maybe on first boot setup ssh and ssh into it
<[TheBug]>
and then change it on command line as you need
<[TheBug]>
or ssh in before it changes it
<[TheBug]>
I dunno
<LRN>
how do i change it on command line
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<LRN>
(as i need)
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<LRN>
i.e. which keys do i need to press to change the layout.
<[TheBug]>
keys?
<LRN>
yes. Keyboard keys.
<[TheBug]>
sounds like Google is your friend and you need to spend some time talking to them
<LRN>
I did talk to Google about it. Google told me a lot of things, like Alt+Shift, or Ctrl+Winkey+Space, but none of them worked for me.
<[TheBug]>
then you searched for somethign weird cause there are no "magic keys"
<[TheBug]>
you would have to login and run a program
<[TheBug]>
which someone in here already mentioned to you
<LRN>
how do i log in and run a program, when my login is in ascii and all program names are in ascii, and my layout is not capable of producing ascii characters normally (other than the aforementioned alt+NUMBER)?
<[TheBug]>
please re-read what I said about half a page up ^
<LRN>
i see. Any other advice other than "use ssh"?
<[TheBug]>
You want some magic that doesn't exist
<LRN>
Thanks. That's what i needed to hear.
<LRN>
I really thought that i had missed something basic there. Glad to know that i didn't.
<[TheBug]>
I don't even understand the use case for what you describe, on first boot you set the keyboard layout you are going to us, you then shouldn't need to change it
<[TheBug]>
use*
<[TheBug]>
if you do then you have some abnormal use case
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<LRN>
i'm struggling to imagine a use-case where you use the terminal with a layout that is not en_US
<LRN>
like, how do you "sudo" when you can't type "sudo" on your keyboard? Boggles the mind. That's why i thought that i'm missing something.
<[TheBug]>
huh
<[TheBug]>
I really don't understand your problem
<[TheBug]>
the default layout is english
<[TheBug]>
otherwise, when it prompts choose the one you need
<[TheBug]>
not connecting where there is some problem?
<LRN>
The default layout is en_US. I set up everything (login, password, root password) in ascii characters. Then Armbian helpfully offered me a different layout that matches my geolocation. I agreed, and now i can't type any ascii characters. I can't log in. I can't run commands.
<LRN>
That is the problem.
<[TheBug]>
so... don't do that
<[TheBug]>
:)
<LRN>
I agreed to a non-en_US layout on the assumption that it's going to be installed *in addition* to en_US. Because you can't use the terminal without en_US.
<LRN>
Obviously, that wasn't the case.
<[TheBug]>
key word... assumption
<Werner>
Recently somebody reported a bug with the geo detection where I think AR was mislabeled as Argentina or something
<[TheBug]>
LRN btw per debain in general the proper way to fix it would be to use SSH
<[TheBug]>
since..
<[TheBug]>
The system’s keyboard configuration has no impact on the mappings used over SSH: SSH doesn’t transmit keystrokes, it transmits characters, there is no keyboard-style mapping involved.
<LRN>
uh-huh
<[TheBug]>
past that you will need to write a new image and choose correctly during setup
<[TheBug]>
once logged in via SSH, you can run dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
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<ArmbianTwitter>
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<IgorPec>
we need another adjustement of 1st login script?
<IgorPec>
werner: i think final solution is to not deal with the keyboard
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<martinayotte>
IgorPec: I've finally built OPi3-XFCE-Desktop, I got LightDM login, but as soon as I log, there HDMI output goes blank and desktop never comes...
<martinayotte>
I will try another desktop flavor ...
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<IgorPec>
martinayotte: that's strange
<IgorPec>
did you enable 3D support?
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<tparys>
evening all
<IgorPec>
hi
<tparys>
MicroZed is booting, but after some manual steps outside of build system
<IgorPec>
that was fast :)
<IgorPec>
what left outside?
<tparys>
Xilinx bootgen, and Zynq FSBL are both manual adjustments
<tparys>
helps that I've done my own MicroZed builds in the past. just seems silly to do my own build system, ya know?
<tparys>
it's also missing /boot/armbianEnv.txt, which I'm not sure where that gets populated