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<ikmaak> they use the same img, just a dtb switch in armbian-config
<rneese> ok all you do is dl the img and like a normal img burn it to ssd and do the setup
<ikmaak> the change pw and user stuff setup?
<rneese> but we have 1 issue known you have to login to the desktop the first time . then after reboot it autologs in
<rneese> yes
<rneese> its just like a normal setup
<rneese> so give me a bit to sync up whats there now and I will do the othe 4 ings
<ikmaak> ok, what is different?
<rneese> and they will but up there tonight
<rneese> deepin desktop
<rneese> new desktop
<ikmaak> ah, also interesting, the hc1 and the sopines are headless...
<rneese> okk
<ikmaak> so that leaves the xu4 and the m4
<rneese> ok
<rneese> then I will get a xu4 up
<ikmaak> cool
<ikmaak> i will make a list of my sbc, so ppl know what i am able to test on
<rneese> ok I am syncing up now and then I will wipe the build dir and do the xu4
<rneese> so give it abotu 40 min
<ikmaak> at that time i will likely be asleep, so take your time
<ikmaak> it is past 2am here
<rneese> ok
<rneese> well there are some imgs going up now
<rneese> so you can pull the m4
<rneese> thats the nanopi m4 or wich one
<rneese> only m4 I know is the nanopi
<ikmaak> yes, that is the one. download started
<rneese> ok just know this is the desktop and its apps only
<rneese> for testing
<rneese> I did not install a bunch of desktop apps
<rneese> that will be in final builds
<ikmaak> ok, i will test what i can, if you tell me the tests.
<rneese> ok
<rneese> you do have to login and goto the system config and tun off the windows effects
<ikmaak> i will be asleep, but i will stay here to listen :)
<rneese> I am working on a fix for this
<rneese> ok
<rneese> but this is a alpha just testing
<ikmaak> i like testing, dont worry, i do not expect stable
<rneese> ok
<rneese> well once this one is done then we move to budgie
<ikmaak> years of using pc/sbc has hardened me :)
<rneese> and then cinnamon
<rneese> those are the first 3 I want done
<rneese> then lxde/mate/xfce
<rneese> so once this is all tested and in place its going to be alot easier to have options
<rneese> thnnaks
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<rneese> xu4 building now
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<rneese> is the xu4 32 or 64 ?
<rneese> its armhf 32 bit
<rneese> ok
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<nekomancer[m]> <rneese "in /boot in the env file"> I mean variables used in env file and boot.ini
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<Tony_mac32> hello everyone
<Tony_mac32> boot.ini can go straight to hell, along with it's stone age u-boot
<Tony_mac32> :-D
<Tony_mac32> I booted up my Jetson Nano and wow does that thing run hot
<Tony_mac32> the small fan I added is barely helping
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<nekomancer[m]> <Tony_mac32 "boot.ini can go straight to hell"> we are living there
<Tony_mac32> fair argument
* Tony_mac32 won't argue when 40 hours into the work week on a Wednesday
<nekomancer[m]> you do it wrong™
<Tony_mac32> I am the lead engineer, sometimes these things happen
<Tony_mac32> but I agree it is the wrong way
<Tony_mac32> "Why is my Potato not booting?!?!"
<Tony_mac32> "Oh, because it's a Tritium"
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<Tony_mac32> hmmm, Potato desktop performance is WAYYYYYY better than RK3328. did we make changes to the use/misuse of acceleration on one of them? I don't remember
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<Heisath> godo morgnin
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<IgorPec> good morning
<Heisath> Did you hear/see anything from Hijax?
<IgorPec> heisath: nope, not recently
<Heisath> He wanted to send me the new testing boards at the start of october. But the tracking id he gave me is invalid. And he has not responded to my messages.
<Heisath> Hope he's fine.
<IgorPec> he was here last week
<IgorPec> i hope so
<IgorPec> btw. merging 5.8.y for mvebu - what else do we need?
<Heisath> Do not merge yet :D Aprayoga is still investigating the fan issue
<IgorPec> i see. he is busy with h64 so this might take some timew
<IgorPec> but apparently he knows where to look
<Heisath> jep. If he does not get it until 20.11 we should just delay it to the next version. No reason to split mvebu.
<IgorPec> spliting is not on the table, ofx
<Heisath> I was also able to reproduce the issue but have no idea where to look for fixing it/tracking it down.
<Heisath> The adjustment I did to the patch should not have produced it. Also the other PWM channel still works.
<IgorPec> perhaps names changed?
<IgorPec> of pwm channels
<Heisath> I will try to find something. Maybe closely compare Lk5.4 and 5.8. Or test with 5.7
<IgorPec> did we have 5.7. for mvebu?
<Heisath> only on dev
<Heisath> but I normally test only one fan, and it might always have been the wrong one xD
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<IgorPec> i have 2 fan setup and it was fine before
<Heisath> yeah on 5.4 everything works.
<IgorPec> its full time fan since start, then scripts took over once its uop
<IgorPec> both
<IgorPec> now, only one goes down
<Heisath> I will load my build env and try with 5.7
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<IgorPec> no suspicious changes in dt since 5.4
<IgorPec> we better wait for him if you don't find anythin in a quick look
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<HerculeP> rneese: my odroidc2 has 2GB, where from to download latest test img?
<HerculeP> good morning everybody
<count-doku> hi
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<Fleck> Hey, can I change boot to show custom image/picture instead of boot texts? Or at least just blank screen
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<ikmaak> HerculeP: https://armbian.lane-fu.com/rneese/ has a C2 img
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<ikmaak> rneese: the xu4 img has not finished? i cannot find it in the link
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<rneese> xu4 ia 32 bit and we dont have 32bit desktop files
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<ikmaak> ok
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<rneese> so http://armbian.lane-fu.com/rneese/ has some alpha test images if you find your board in there and can test let me know
<rneese> IgorPec, you awake yet
<rneese> morning all
<rneese> so whats the skinny this am
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<wooster> nm u
<wooster> fleck: i'm trying to do the same thing
<wooster> lib/general.sh has some boot logo stuff but i haven't gotten it to work yet
<rneese> ok your trying to disable /change the armbian bootscreen ?
<rneese> or are you trying to display a board logo at boot up
<wooster> i would be happy with anything other than text when booting at the moment
<wooster> my config: https://dpaste.com/HW8HHTX8R
<wooster> i see only text during boot
<rneese> the only text that shows is the bl then it should load the default armbian loading screen and no test
<rneese> ok so you want the bl to block its txt with a boot logo ook
<rneese> I know thet do it on hardkernel and friendly elec I will have to dig this brb
<rneese> i think this is what your looking to do
<rneese> and just so you know arm is not like intell and enabling fastboot to disable text on screen
<rneese> arm is diff beast
<HerculeP> rneese: any important changes since 11th of Oct. in latest Armbian_20.08.0-trunk_Odroidc2_focal_current_5.8.13_dde_desktop.img ?
<wooster> also i'm using SPI display not HDMI
<rneese> we got a few things fixed and we got the armbian wallpaper
<rneese> this is just desktop no extra apps at the min
<rneese> I am working to get some things tested
<rneese> which I will have you test once boooted
<rneese> I want to put a zorg.conf using dri and not fbdev
<rneese> to see it if helps per board
<HerculeP> okidoki just ping me when somthing new to be tested :)
<wooster> okie thanks
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<wooster> happy to test
<wooster> i'm on tinkerboard S w/ legacy kernel, raspi SPI touchscreen display
<rneese> put that in /etc/X11 and reboot once you have it up and running
<rneese> ok I have not done spi
<rneese> edp and dvi and hdmi
<rneese> I want o know if this fixes issue son all devices
<rneese> I think dri is better the fbdev
<rneese> preformance wise as it adds 3d
<rneese> iif it does wrk well I will push it for all boards
<rneese> there is still a kwin issue but this atleast to a point fixes the desktop
<Fleck> [15:34:00] <wooster> i would be happy with anything other than text when booting at the moment <<< similar, anything would be OK except text :D custom logo would be perfect, reading...
<rneese> then you want the uboot logo screen
<rneese> armbian has a screen on the builds we are doing now
<rneese> the txt goes by so fast I dont get the issue
<rneese> it allows you to see errors if something breaks
<Fleck> OK, looking at "uboot splash screen instead of text" link :)
<Fleck> rneese: thanks and I agree with you, boot info text helps you, it's just that in this case a will install my OrangePI at local school, will show tables with info on TV :)
<rneese> then you need the uboot logo and armbians desktop builds have a lboot screen on the builds we are workign on
<rneese> so this should fix the issue
<wooster> basically my client has requested that their logo appear instead of normal linux text boot sequence. trying to do that with BOOT_LOGO / BUILD_DESKTOP and failing
<IgorPec> wooster, tell your client to support armbian https://forum.armbian.com/subscriptions/
<IgorPec> it costs us 5000 EUR per day to maintain the project. Your client probably wont this feature not to break at next update? And have someone to fix it?
<wooster> i donated yesterday, i will be happy to contribute more. i doubt ongoing maintainence will be required.
<IgorPec> if you will not update system, then you are usually safe ... but once you will and it might be broken
<IgorPec> i already wasted afternoon to fix this feature back
<rneese> wooster your wrong it can break at any time they change uboot
<IgorPec> because we like it
<rneese> as the uboot logo is based on uboot code per board
<rneese> and has to be repatched when it breaks
<IgorPec> rneese: this particular boot splash is kernel based
<IgorPec> but in any case it can break
<rneese> yes
<IgorPec> it broke once not long time ago
<wooster> i just need it working once and then i can freeze things
<rneese> so we are looking at 2 diff things ok
<rneese> I was looking at the first part the uboot logo
<IgorPec> wooster: i think in your case you only need to use master branch
<wooster> i am on master using the config i dpaste'd
<IgorPec> LIB="v20.08" i am not sure this was fixed
<wooster> i see only text when booting
<IgorPec> yes, but if you set LIB=xxx it will switch branch
<wooster> ah
<IgorPec> brb, i will build one stock image for tinkerboard to see if we have some issue
<wooster> i read the config variables page of the documentation about five or six times but i'm not sure i understand the implications of the various settings
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<IgorPec> which one in particular you find confusing?
<rneese> hey igore
<IgorPec> wooster: i see - you are trying to build legacy 4.4.y kernel, right?
<IgorPec> you have to choose "current" 5.8.y kernel and then this will works
<wooster> okay i can try. when i tried last, nothing came up on SPI display. i'll set KERNEL_TARGET=current and see how it goes
<IgorPec> SPI display and logo? :)
<IgorPec> that's even more complicated
<wooster> i mean it was blank, no video at all
<wooster> on current
<wooster> is BUILD_DESKTOP neeed if i set BOOT_LOGO=yes?
<IgorPec> no, not needed. bootlogo is build in any case
<IgorPec> just enabled is if you build desktop
<IgorPec> but on HDMI, modern kernel only
<IgorPec> i am sure it doesnot work with stock kernel, for SPI i have absolutely no idea
<IgorPec> if your SPI display can show FBDEV its probably possible ... but this requures investigation
<wooster> everything works pretty nicely with legacy kernel except no boot splash. last i checked current didn't show anything on SPI but i am rebuilding now with current and latest master to see what happens.
<IgorPec> then try to port bootsplash there
<IgorPec> probably the easiest way
<wooster> also i'm going to do a talk about this and shout out armbian at an AWS community day conference
<IgorPec> great!!
<wooster> i'm running AWS Greengrass on it
<IgorPec> you know how to add custom patches to kernel?=
<wooster> pretty nice stuff
<wooster> i don't really but i can look into it if you wanna point me in the right direction
<IgorPec> you know how to adjust them in case of missalignment?
<IgorPec> there are 12 patches for bootsplash
<IgorPec> you need to use exact this version, more recent will not work
<IgorPec> will certainly not work
<IgorPec> thiw might work with minimal changes
<IgorPec> add thos patches to userpatch/kernel/rockchip-legacy directory and trey if kernel rebuild with KERNEL_CONFIGURE="yes" enabled
<wooster> okay
<Werner> Good day
<IgorPec> hey werner, any cake left ?:)
<Werner> No. They ate it all :(
<Werner> There is an update for "New topic rules" available which should fix the split topic issue. However I cannot install the update ("no permission"). I assume it is bound to your account. Can you give it a try? It is now an application and no longer a plugin.
<IgorPec> let me see
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<IgorPec> try now
<IgorPec> installed and enabled
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<Werner> Awesome
<Werner> Seems like the rule text has not been converted. Fortunately it was not that much :)
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<Werner> New topic rules fixed
<IgorPec> nice
<Werner> We will need redis soon. From feeling it gets slower every day.
<wooster> a few hours later... built current kernel and i have a blank SPI display, as before :(
<wooster> will try building legacy with boot splash patches and see what happens
<IgorPec> imo legacy withj boot splash patches is probably simpler path which is why i suggest you to try first
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<IgorPec> werner: agree
<IgorPec> just we are all very busy
<IgorPec> but on the other hand, corona are closing us to home
<IgorPec> no more office from tomorrow
<Werner> Did they apply new restrictions in your country ?
<Werner> or just the company
<IgorPec> both, some restrictions are from country, some from company
<IgorPec> i don't pay attention to the details :) its getting crazy
<Werner> I know the feeling. It is like new/adjusted restrictions every day
<IgorPec> jep
<wooster> 3 patches failed :(
<wooster> corona is really taking off here big time (ukraine)
<Werner> Did not take a look at jdu for a while.
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<IgorPec> wooster. well, now you need to dig into the code
<wooster> ye
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<wooster> in cache/sources/linux-rockchip/stable-4.4-rk3288-linux ?
<IgorPec> yes
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<wooster> looks like bootsplash_do_render_flush is already present in there
<wooster> let me check the other two failing patches
<wooster> some of these do need adjusting
<Fleck> dunno if this is related or where to ask, but, why is chromium-browser in armbian using snapd?
<Fleck> it's 2GB already... dooh
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<jock> hi all!
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<IgorPec> fleck: you are probably not using armbian
<IgorPec> hi jock
<Fleck> IgorPec: well, yes :D
<Fleck> why?
<IgorPec> armbian doesn't provide snapd
<IgorPec> we remove that package on purpuse
<HerculeP> IgorPec: I noticed the same when testing focal/dde
<IgorPec> ahaa, those are some development variants
<HerculeP> Armbian_20.08.0-trunk_Odroidc2_focal_current_5.8.13_dde_desktop.img actually
<IgorPec> yeah, those are only for testing
<IgorPec> i have absolutely no clue how they are build ... since this its developing
<IgorPec> there - anything is possible, its undetermined how and why
<HerculeP> I didnt bother too much
<IgorPec> those new desktops are probably for 2021
<HerculeP> worked pretty well so far
<IgorPec> yeah, but our build system is not there yet
<IgorPec> making a static image is one thing
<IgorPec> it has many bugs, believe me :)
<HerculeP> rneese did a good job :)
<rneese> thanks
<IgorPec> yeah, sure, but this is neverending story, uptream will change, things will break, needs fixing ...
<rneese> once I get all the mini bugs worked out we will release alpha 2
<IgorPec> so we have to prepare whole system that it will not fall aparat in such cases
<rneese> but I have to work on a few things
<IgorPec> we have to move build engine along, otherwise we hjaven't done anything
<IgorPec> to adding new desktops we had to tear down the whole desktop part and setup from scratc
<IgorPec> which is why things are difficult atm
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<ArmbianTwitter> @sulfuroid (sulfuroid): Yes! Repaired. Now time to clone the mother board into a @kicad_pcb template, then modify it to an up to date ARMBIAN compatible device https://t.co/sp5PRXbigE (8s ago)
<Fleck> IgorPec: yes I am using armbian :D
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<IgorPec> Fleck: yeah, i realised you are using some alfa development version :)
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