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<flyback> nope
<flyback> wanna do that also
<flyback> don't want it overclocking
<flyback> if anything i'd underclock it
<flyback> eup up to 57C
<flyback> guess I should do it now
<flyback> how do I do that
<flyback> what's the proper max speed for h3
<lanefu> armbian-config -> hardware -> cpu
<lanefu> i'd suggest setting max 1.2ghz and try the schedutil governor
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<lanefu> flyback: armbian-config -> hardware -> cpu
<lanefu> i'd suggest setting max 1.2ghz and try the schedutil governor
<flyback> still hitting 50C already
<flyback> ill get a heatsink for it also
<flyback> * Received a CTCP VERSION from Hail_Satan
<flyback> great
<flyback> 55c
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<lanefu> 55c is fine dude
<lanefu> but yeah heatsink good
<lanefu> the H3 technically tolerates like above 90C
<lanefu> the hardcore cooling states don't even kick in until around 70c if i recall
<lanefu> my opi lite is at 48c sitting on a desk doing nothing
<flyback> ok
<lanefu> did you win
<flyback> leting it run for hrs see what happens
<Tony_mac32> yeah that throws a lot of people, ARM != X86 for temperatures
<flyback> a lot of silcon doesn't like those temps
<flyback> even 8 bit mcu's
<Tony_mac32> I work with 150 C
<Tony_mac32> in Automotive
<Tony_mac32> but yes
<flyback> silicon on saphire can handle rocket temps
<flyback> but $$$$$$$$$$$
<Tony_mac32> hahaha :)
<Tony_mac32> well automotive is always the same requirement: Ultra high performance for free
<flyback> cars have a lot of silicon these days :P
<Tony_mac32> it's unfortunate
<Tony_mac32> I liked when most of it was found in the leaf springs :)
<flyback> na it's a good thing it drives some chip innovation
<flyback> most of it is fairly reliable
<flyback> I mean we got high temp sensors now that can fire shit right at the exact optimum position of engine parts
<flyback> saving a lot of fuel and emissions
<flyback> plus adjusting ride height etc
<flyback> you know they make knifes and swords out of leaf srpings
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<flyback> I didn't know know those were high silicon
<flyback> I thought silicon was brittle it's only used for electrical steel to make it shitty for wasting magnetic energy
<Tony_mac32> I design these things, I was in engine control for some time, solenoids, emissions sensors, did some battery systems even
<Tony_mac32> and haha nice
<flyback> there you go
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<Tony_mac32> I wouldn't say "high silicon", they're only using trace amounts to adjust the alloy
<flyback> ah
<flyback> yeah makes sense
<flyback> high silicon is shitty steel but it doesn't aborb a lot of megnetic energy
<flyback> so it's better for transformers and motors and generators
<Tony_mac32> when you want to control eddy currents yes
<Tony_mac32> I've seen some good forgings from these things, it's cool
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<flyback> it still has some value thought as scrap
<flyback> record I had for fastest pickup after I put out
<flyback> 3 mins
<flyback> 3 mins after I put out a pile of old transformer steel and hd parts
<flyback> someone pulled up
<Tony_mac32> I'll be changing my shackles on my truck this weekend I think, I'll be looking to see if springs are in my future
<Tony_mac32> haha the scrap guys can be like vultures
<Tony_mac32> I had a stack of 10 rotorsthat were gone instantly
<Tony_mac32> clean cast
<flyback> I didn't care I don't have enough for me to do it myself so happy to see someone else get some $ out of it
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<Tony_mac32> I went to the scrap yard one time, got about $40 and was amazed I didn't get a flat haha
<Tony_mac32> You know what neighbor's love? some dude just hammering the shit out of something all day long :D
<lanefu> yeah i used to just lean rotors on my telephone pole outside, but i dont have the scrappers that i used to
<Tony_mac32> last scrapper wanted $5 to take my broken freezer, so I threw in some brake calipers XD
<lanefu> lol
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<flyback> 55-60v
<flyback> c
<flyback> still going like 4-5 hrs later?
<flyback> leaving it overnight
<flyback> there's a guy who makes all his castings from brake rotors
<flyback> he even made a machine to break them up
<Tony_mac32> it's quality metal, or else your car would fly off a hillside
<Tony_mac32> haha log splitter
<Tony_mac32> Those welds XD
<Tony_mac32> splitter is an MTD, largest supplier of yard scrap
<flyback> night
<IgorPec> good morning
<IgorPec> werner: how's going?
<Werner> Morning. Depends on the topic :P
<IgorPec> you know which :)
<Werner> Yeah I probably do ^^. Will take a while due to lack of practice.
<IgorPec> sure yes
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<Tony_mac32> hehehe I need to go pass out but I think I fixed Renegade ram
<Tony_mac32> their DDR timing isn't even close to the generic one for CA de-skew
<Tony_mac32> I had to find their 4.4 repo and dig out which ddr timing they were using, I don't think it's likely correct either, their routing can't be exactly the same across so many boards, but it's way better
<Tony_mac32> doing the youtube test at 924 MHz tonight, I'll try faster tomorrow just to push my luck
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<ArmbianTwitter> @nicoduck (nico): Oh armbian on rockpro64 does not come with an i40e module for the Intel x710 card? Too bad :( (19s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @nicoduck Use the build script to create your own kernel package with the mentioned module enabled: https://t.co/iHUIc70SXe (17s ago)
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<Werner> Just finished recording. I sent over the raw material to nico
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<PPA> test
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<scops_> hey, a little question. i have armbian bionic 18.04 on my odriod c2… i want to make a release upgrade to 20.04. but i get many python3 errors: "KeyError: suite" in /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/CommandNotFound/db/creator.py"…
<scops_> is this a known problem? ^^
<scops_> does somebody have a hint what todo?
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<flyback> hey guys she ran all night :)
<[TheBug]> scops_: people are in different places and have different schedules -- also this is volunteer not paid, so not always someone here all the time -- best is to ask question and then wait, usually when people wake they review and if they have an answer, will say.. but if you expect answer immediate and then leave, you won't be very roductive here
<[TheBug]> s/roductive/productive
<ArmbianHelper> [TheBug] meant to say: scops_: people are in different places and have different schedules -- also this is volunteer not paid, so not always someone here all the time -- best is to ask question and then wait, usually when people wake they review and if they have an answer, will say.. but if you expect answer immediate and then leave, you won't be very productive here
<lanefu> flyback: great
<[TheBug]> flyback: sweet
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<scops_> [TheBug]: i know :)
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<[TheBug]> scops_: just saw you join before question so figured may be new, try and set expectations so people don't run off -- often 5 minute later someone answer and :facepalm: cause person is gone ;p
<scops_> yeah… no prob :) i know this problem… i will idle a little bit and wait :)
<scops_> lol not a real - maybe danger - workaround: uninstalling the package "command-not-found" helps …
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<flyback> yeah you really should put up a page on armbian talking about how much overclocking ain't worth it most times
<flyback> but underclocking can be a really good thing
<flyback> shame xulong had to overclock them from the factory to try to make them look better
<flyback> they do fine as is
* flyback blames canada
<flyback> now we just need to make it work with armbian 20
<flyback> can't run a old distro with no security patches since it connects to my lan
<flyback> else I wouldn't care about a radio streamer
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<lanefu> flyback: typically the armbian imagese are at spce or underclocked.. i know some reecent coolere tables where figured out for the h3 boards that like the opilite, one, and zero fun faster via some device tree overlays..so i was supprised to see you running at 1.4ghz? by default
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<Tony_mac32> lanefu pssst
<Tony_mac32> standard memcpy : 1569.1 MB/s (2.2%)
<Tony_mac32> standard memset : 5482.5 MB/s (1.9%)
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<Tony_mac32> I have a little work to do tonight for cleanup, but I'll open a PR and tag TK so he can test it, I haven't tried 1056 yet, but I don't think it's stable there usually. I made a specific dram dtsi for renegade
<Tony_mac32> I had dmesg notes that make me stop short of declaring this "solved", 2 dwmmc interrupt latency warnings and a NOHZ: local_softirq_pending 08
<archetech_n2> n2 on manjaro has working plasma on panfrost!
<Tony_mac32> manjaro has a strong desktop team I've seen
<Tony_mac32> for Renegade/RK3328, the 1056 memory opp pushes the vdd_logic past the recommended maximum, but is way inside the "absolute maximum"
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<Tony_mac32> most of the vendor images are using it, so I'll not get cranky about it
<Tony_mac32> OK, back to lunch. IgorPec do you have a renegade to test once I open a PR? We need to really beat on it to be sure it isn't going to cause problems
<archetech_n2> armbian bullseye panfrost test...soon
<Tony_mac32> nice
<jock> hello!
<Tony_mac32> Hi jock
<jock> Hey Tony
<jock> no success with Tinkerboard S?
<jock> Just saw an old post of yours about u-boot and the S...
<Tony_mac32> since it boots fine with 2018.x, I'm not messing with it while we have things that are more broken, it ate a lot of time, and I'm sure I was missing something silly
<Tony_mac32> the Miqi was affected as well
<jock> got it, very strange...
<Tony_mac32> lanefu is not impressed with my ram numbers from Renegade mainline. must try harder
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* Tony_mac32 turns ram clock to 11
<Tony_mac32> reverting my changes to the opps now that the skew is better, let's see what 1056 does before an experiment
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<Tony_mac32> and it's running 1056 without noticable issues right now
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<lanefu> Tony_mac32: yay! good job
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<jock> pretty tired tonight, gotta go sleep
<jock> good night/day!
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<Tony_mac32> Lanefu http://ix.io/2A1u
<Tony_mac32> :O
<Tony_mac32> now if only we can verify stability there
<Tony_mac32> For now these are the infamous "numbers without meaning"
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<Tony_mac32> I'm going to install boinc and do rosetta on it
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<Tony_mac32> hmm, no 1.5 GHz though
<Tony_mac32> technically an OC, but seems safe enough
<[TheBug]> you mean on 3328?
<Tony_mac32> yes
<[TheBug]> yeah the opp actually is available it seems in Rock64
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<[TheBug]> I didn't notice till the sysbench set to highest opp the other day
<[TheBug]> but atm I even have it clocked up there
<[TheBug]> runs fine
<Tony_mac32> Ahhh, I forgot to add the 1.45V limit to the dc/dc
<[TheBug]> got a new 64GB A1 V30 sdcard for it to test on Linux a little better
<Tony_mac32> that's why, I don't have the voltage to support the opp
<[TheBug]> so gonna do some more testing later
<Tony_mac32> the A1 cards do well
<Tony_mac32> I think an overlay might be in order for the DMC max frequency though
<[TheBug]> ya v30 is also nice
<[TheBug]> that was more the interest
<[TheBug]> using a 128GB A1 v30 in RockPi 4c atm
<Tony_mac32> I'll need to consult the magicians on that to use a parameter
<[TheBug]> pretty nice
<[TheBug]> v10 and v30 dictate non-sequential performance if I recall correctly
<Tony_mac32> ah ok
<[TheBug]> ahh
<[TheBug]> silly me
<[TheBug]> its guarenteed write speed
<[TheBug]> v10 means at least 10M write
<[TheBug]> v30 means at least 30M/sec
<Tony_mac32> ok, the renegade is going to start protein sequencing. time to see if 1056 works
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<flyback> still running
<flyback> I think it's time to test either bsp or kernel update to the latest that was in bionic
<flyback> see if anything changes
<flyback> which would you recommend first
<flyback> 21 hrs
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<flyback> hmm
<flyback> released the firmware lock
<flyback> did apt dist-upgrade so it's to the latest armbian biontic
<flyback> it's still working
<flyback> did notice one thing that happen with the locked firmware also
<flyback> sometimes I have to reboot before spyserver works
<flyback> wonder if they got a variable uninitialized or the dongle is hanging
<flyback> so appears the main issue is either the kernel version in armbian 20 vs biontic or something in armbian 20 is just breaking the exec for spyserver and not orange pi related
<flyback> he following packages have been kept back:
<flyback> linux-bionic-root-current-orangepilite
<badCRC> is there a way to disable the first-boot thing (change pw and locale generation) in new built images with ./compile.sh?
<flyback> did upgrade fiurmware in armbian config
<flyback> still works
<flyback> had to reboot twice but works
<flyback> still holding back 1 package called root current for some reason
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<lanefu> badCRC: you'd have to do some extra work in userpatches/customize_image.sh