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<lanefu> Is either 0 minutes difference or 20 years difference
<Tonymac32> lol
<lanefu> Do you use any streaming audio services with volumeio or just your stash
<Tonymac32> Just my stash, but they didn't have a Pandora plugin before, they seem to now
<Tonymac32> I'm not rich enough for Tidal XD
<Tonymac32> I look for $5 album deals on amazon then rip them to FLAC
<nekomancer[m]> smart!
<lanefu> Lol I have tidal
<lanefu> Through plex subscription
<Tonymac32> it's like $25 month though right?
<lanefu> If you want the super high end stuff
<lanefu> In think I'm paying 12 or 15 and keeping plex alive
<lanefu> Standard quality is still good
<Tonymac32> I need to add a note to my $5 plex pass: "Add 3rd party
<Tonymac32> ffmpeg"
<lanefu> Ha. I need to move plex.off my synology
<Tonymac32> it's on my XU4
<lanefu> Hence your desire for ffmpeg
<Tonymac32> yep
<Tonymac32> Emby supported it thanks to jmcc
<Tonymac32> but they are being weird
<Tonymac32> and jellyfin is sooooo stuck on RPi that they actually broke even 3rd party ffmpegs from working and won't fix it
<chewitt> nekomancer[m] stuff that is well tested and has a decent chance of being accepted goes upstream, but otherwise I have to hoard it locally in perpetuity
<chewitt> and the media stuff for Amlogic is very much 'WIP'
<Tonymac32> hi chewitt
<chewitt> and I don't 'contribute' to Armbian because running LibreELEC and doing behind-the-scenes stuff for Kodi already gets me in trouble with time/family/work
<Tonymac32> haha join the club
<chewitt> Hi Tonymac32
<nekomancer[m]> sad
<chewitt> but I do loiter here and answer Q's on the huge patchset that I accumulate and help spread some FOSS love :)
<Tonymac32> we suually scan through the patches and add the ones that make sense and we at least marginally understand what they do
<Tonymac32> I've been trying to improve my Armbian time, I took quite the break there for about a year
<chewitt> plus, nobody should mistake me for a developer .. I don't do code beyond bash script hacking
<nekomancer[m]> shame to chip vendors not upstream drivers and dts
<chewitt> I'm a highly-evolved copy/paste merchant
<Tonymac32> XD
<nekomancer[m]> merchant?
<chewitt> english turn-of-phrase .. s/merchant/specialist
<nekomancer[m]> :)
<nekomancer[m]> france?
<chewitt> non, je suis Anglais
<nekomancer[m]> :)
<lanefu> I tried scheduling armbian time. Need to get back to honoring that
<chewitt> Tonymac32 .. waprme (minimyth2) and myself have been poking HEVC support a little, trying to revive the work Maxime was doing
<chewitt> HEVC 8-bit seems to work well
<chewitt> 10-bit deadlocks the board .. more understanding to be done
<chewitt> I'm also trying to get my head around why such insane CMA reservations are needed
<Tonymac32> cool. I explained how to modify the CMA buffer size on the forums because we set it to default 256 MB to avoid breaking the amll board like La Frite
<chewitt> the default should probably be lower at 128MB to handle the 512MB version of LaFrite
<Tonymac32> right, I'm going to play with an overlay I think, so users can choose
<chewitt> the CMA silliness is due to inconsistencies in decoding approach between Amlogic codecss
<chewitt> some support compression (afbc) and others don't
<chewitt> and apparently it's not possible to have cma and non-cma approaches in the same driver
<chewitt> so everything needs to be done 'with cma'
<Tonymac32> yikes
<chewitt> and 4k/10-bit requires lots
<Tonymac32> lol ja
<chewitt> the best but slowest approach would be to de-blob the decoder, and move to a stateless approach where all the decoding cleverness is done in visible software
<chewitt> this requires reverse engineering the firmware blobs
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<chewitt> or asking Amlogic for the sources; which I will do (and they will say no to) .. but I'll ask anyway
<chewitt> there are folks in LE with the skills/aptitude to do that
<chewitt> sadly they are 'Allwinner' people
<[TheBug]> lol
<Tonymac32> haha
<Tonymac32> TheBug enters stage right
<Tonymac32> I was just rudely reminded that my desktop Klipsch speakers are not a line in, but a speaker/ headphone level input
<Tonymac32> ugh and of course the sub/amp unit doesn't have an aux input
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<lanefu> lol Allwinner people
<lanefu> man Allwinner has been slacking lately for interesting chips for SBCs
<Tonymac32> yeah, they even look to have a powerVR in the lineup *barf*
<lanefu> really?
<lanefu> their dynasty of superior mediocrity is over?
<Tonymac32> A31 and A80
<Tonymac32> but I swear I saw something newer
<Tonymac32> hold on
<Tonymac32> Do the H313 and H616 actually exist?
<Tonymac32> they look interesting at least. The A133 has a PowerVR
<Tonymac32> almost everything else is a Mali400 or 450
<[TheBug]> there honestly isn't much from allwinner that looks super interestesting and after that flubbed H6 imo I haven't really been paying as much attention
<Tonymac32> That made me sad
<lanefu> yeah it really is a bummer
<lanefu> despite its obvious blemishes i like the h6
<lanefu> it's 3 gig mem limit is also dumb tho
<Tonymac32> yeah
<Tonymac32> but the "H" explains that well enough
<Tonymac32> If it was a tablet/chromebook processor released recently, yeah inexcusable
<lanefu> yeah would be autofail
<lanefu> archetech: had to make a OSX install usb key for my temporary work machine from my hackintosh lol
<archetech> Big Sur is nice here
<lanefu> f-ing apple store... i opened up a support reservation for dumb keyboard Last week.. and today was the earliest day
<lanefu> so i went there and guy is like.. i can try to replace e key, but i might have to esnd it off if the key doesnt work
<lanefu> anyway replaced key.. no fix.... poof leave with no work computer
<[TheBug]> yep sounds like Apple
<lanefu> stop in office.. find old thunderbolt macbook pro that interned used.. no password
<archetech> genius move
<chewitt> H616 exists .. in TV boxes (which are popular around here I gather)
<lanefu> so i had to download mojave installer from my friend lol
<[TheBug]> chewitt: yeah but what does H616 have that actually makes it appealing?
<Tonymac32> chewitt XD easy now
<lanefu> more 6's
<archetech> i cant fix a key then swap it
<lanefu> the theater in the apple store is hillarious
<[TheBug]> still only has 100mbit nic even
<lanefu> they like make the customer feel like they're doign amazing stuff
<Tonymac32> TheBug it has a GPU that might have a prayer of driving a desktop
<lanefu> "okay I hit this reinstall butotn"
<archetech> i always tried to save a cust another trip
<Tonymac32> the Mali400's just aren't designed for that
<Tonymac32> otherwise yeah
<Tonymac32> 4 GB RAM looks like
<lanefu> ooo now we're talking.. 4 G
<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: yeah but its just a quad A53 with Usb 2.0
<Tonymac32> yeah, that's true
<lanefu> do these chips go into smart TVs?
<Tonymac32> Also looks like USB 2
<[TheBug]> does seem it supports a gigabit phy as well
<lanefu> like still blows my mind there can be that much demadn for android tv boxes
<lanefu> but its a bi gworld out there
<[TheBug]> lanefu: I would have to guess as I wouldn't buy a tv box with it
<[TheBug]> especially since most will us ethe cheapest lpddr3 memory with it
<Tonymac32> yeah no USB 3
<Tonymac32> so ok
<[TheBug]> honestly it looks like a board that would be used in a Comcast set top box
<Tonymac32> weak cores + no USB 3, for a new product that's looking really "meh"
<[TheBug]> you know those X1 systems they sell
<Tonymac32> right
<lanefu> ahhh
<lanefu> okay
<[TheBug]> the second box is just a SBC that has a Moca network adapter in it and runs a specialized Android
<[TheBug]> thats what it strikes me for being a good use for
<lanefu> okay this makes sense now
<[TheBug]> some type of set top box
<[TheBug]> no one needs more than USB 2.0 in that case
<Tonymac32> well that's what the entire "H" line is for
<Tonymac32> so that makes sense
<[TheBug]> and the biggest concentration is all the awesome fancy codecs it can decode
<[TheBug]> so yeah
<lanefu> and screen overlay
<[TheBug]> ohh it does their special dolby surround
<Tonymac32> ugh I have to build an image for my M1 Plus?
<[TheBug]> it does 10 bit hdr it claims
<Tonymac32> sheeeesh
<[TheBug]> maybe if you pay for the actual drivers it can be useful
<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: What about the M1 Plus? I have one sitting here..
<Tonymac32> right, which I'm not doing XD
<Tonymac32> I have one, I just wanted an Armbian image, seems we EOL'd it
<Tonymac32> So I'm building an image
<[TheBug]> of course cause their memory is so slow you always have to underclock it
<[TheBug]> make sure you tweak down the DRAM settings on it if you intent to use HDMI
<lanefu> Tonymac32: if you wanted to participate as a community member you could maintain it yourself and submit a PR
<[TheBug]> otherwise you will see graphical glitching
<Tonymac32> lol as long as it's better than a Rock64 V2
<[TheBug]> they used really slow memory
<Tonymac32> lanefu I'll come down there
<Tonymac32> lol
<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: if you want something fun to run on it go grab H3Droid :D
<Tonymac32> I'm trying to replicate my failure with the NanoPi Neo
<Tonymac32> I loaded the Analog audio overlay and it hung the board as soon as I tried to do anything with alsa or PA
<[TheBug]> well if you want to know what good setting for DRAM are grab H3droid and check our fexes
<[TheBug]> I spent a bunch of time tuning fex for older kernel
<[TheBug]> Of all my H3 boards the NanoPi M1 boards are the bitchiest with the lowest quality memory
<[TheBug]> I have both the M1 and M1 Plus
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* [TheBug] gives them the stink eye out -- yeah I see you over there NanoPi M1's
<Tonymac32> well that makes sense to shitcan them on our side, such a pain to deal with bad memory on boards
<Tonymac32> I like the design though, a shame
<[TheBug]> well you just can't expect all the performance
<[TheBug]> I am trying to remember but don't they also lock voltage
<[TheBug]> oir is that just SinoVoip on their m2s
<Tonymac32> the CPU voltage?
<[TheBug]> but yeah ran hot and lower quality ram chips so you have to set dram in like 400s
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<[TheBug]> on M2 H2+ for example they lock voltage there is no regulator
<[TheBug]> I can't remember if NanoPi M1 is same
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<[TheBug]> sup lvrp16
<lvrp16> wap
* Tonymac32 takes note of the fact community is 75% lurkers
<Tonymac32> :D
<[TheBug]> Good news! That emmc I bought in error forever ago for the H5 came in handy finally! It seems it compatible with my Rock64... so it finally has a home :D LOL
<lvrp16> :P
<lvrp16> wait what???
<Tonymac32> ROFL how
<[TheBug]> You remember me bugging you about an emmc for H5
<lvrp16> ODROID eMMC?
<[TheBug]> cause I could never buy one
<[TheBug]> I bought wronng one
<lvrp16> Rock64 follows the ODROID standard
<Tonymac32> maybe mistype for "Renegade"
<[TheBug]> yeah finally came in handy its compat on Rock64
<[TheBug]> lol
<[TheBug]> I was testing it out was like, wait... sweet finally a use ;D
* Tonymac32 now is looking questioningly at Rock64 on desk
<lvrp16> yeah, the male connectors is weak so if you bend it, your board is toast. idk why they made that design choice
<lanefu> Tonymac32: see if you can get to idle longer than 3 days.. thats my record
<Tonymac32> lanefu which?
<[TheBug]> lvrp16: you guys ever actually stock emmcs for those boards at any reasonable price?
<lanefu> rock64v2
<Tonymac32> I don't have one thank god
<[TheBug]> lvrp16: I kinda moved on but still maybe one day it could have a life with an emmc
<Tonymac32> I have a pre-release one and a V3
<lvrp16> [TheBug]: it's not expensive to make eMMC, just not enough volume
<lanefu> i might have too much energy sorry
<lvrp16> 1 bag from Samsung or Hynix is like 2K pieces
<Tonymac32> cocaine kills, lanefu
<[TheBug]> ROFL
<Tonymac32> :D
<lvrp16> Tonymac32: LOL
<lvrp16> When S805X launches (god...) eMMC will be much cheaper
<Tonymac32> wait
<lvrp16> there's still a bug when using 4K screens...
<lvrp16> 5.9.2 got all the linux bugs out
* Tonymac32 looks at LA Frite on shelf
<lvrp16> in u-boot
<lvrp16> Tonymac32: not launched lol no retail
<lvrp16> you're still a beta tester
<Tonymac32> right, I remember it trying to jump to 4k in u-boot on La Frite, and the S805X is no bueno for that
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<lanefu> lvrp16: what 4k screen bug
<lanefu> 4k loves to ruin my life
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<[TheBug]> Yeah my Tritium H5 is also sitting on the side waiting on an emmc -- one day it may have renewed life :D
<Tonymac32> S805X is like an H2+ version of the S905X
<Tonymac32> so it doesn't technically support 4K, but that doesn't stop it from trying XD
<lanefu> ohhhhhhhh
<[TheBug]> lol ya
<[TheBug]> and S905X doesn't even do 4k great
<Tonymac32> I never had trouble there
<lanefu> i have enough trouble with stuff that supports 4k from trying and causing me pain
<Tonymac32> I mean it's slow because of no acceleration
<lanefu> and imagine if you had a dream of using a KVM switch on a 4k monitor between your work machine and a SBC
<[TheBug]> of course my biggest complaint about S905X is about my Vim1 where both my USB A ports became non-functionally randomly
<lanefu> and you spent $200 on a diskplay port kvm
<[TheBug]> so it has to be powered from GPIO and a USBC to A adapter to connect any input
<lanefu> and spent money on an active hdmi-4k adapter
<lanefu> and it still cant do 4k60
<[TheBug]> hehe
<Tonymac32> I love that 2 entirely seperate rants are occruning in an interlaced pattern right now
<[TheBug]> I would tell you go talk to Level1Techs
<[TheBug]> :D
<[TheBug]> Don't they have some fancy KVM now
<lanefu> yeah i guess we should be bitching about 4ki
<Tonymac32> my Vim1 sits with no reason to live because no heatsink and goofy microcontroller for random board functions wasn't in mainline for some time
<Tonymac32> ...I forgot to turn BOINC off before hitting compile again, now it's going to take forever
<ArmbianHelper> .I forgot to turn BOINC off before hitting compile again, now it's going to take forever [en~>eng]
<[TheBug]> I really liked the Vim1 up until the day the USB ports became unusable making its use as an Android SBC not really possible
<[TheBug]> atm it acts as a IPMI for one of my EBins
<[TheBug]> so I can UART boot uboot and such
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<[TheBug]> it basically provides me a connection via wifi and then I can connect over USB Uart to EBin
<lanefu> [TheBug]: man i found a thing on gethub where it made a HID gadget driver and use a HDMI-USB screen cap, to make a poor man's IPKVM with an rpi
<[TheBug]> ooo
<[TheBug]> could be neat
<Tonymac32> So far my patches to Renegade seem to be fine, ran BOINC on it for a week with no issues
<lanefu> Tonymac32: right so firefly had like really dumb slow memoring timings. and a static table?
<lanefu> what'd you do. make it "good"
<[TheBug]> If I am lucky maybe my RockPi 4c's show up before Monday
<[TheBug]> Slowest DHL shipping ever...
<lanefu> yeah DHL usually shows up 2 days early
<Tonymac32> They didn't follow the RAM routing set down by Rockchip, I had to find and patch in their DRAM skew values
<lanefu> Tonymac32: routing as in ram routed to wrong pins?
<[TheBug]> Well they did one of those DHL -> USPS to deliver it
<[TheBug]> and while they finally show it arrived in the US, of course its take 3 days to make it 1/2 mile in California to USPS
<lanefu> "Hi ship my package via air freight, then throw in bottom of trashcan once it's in the states please"
<Tonymac32> no no, just, when you have that high-speed of a signal trace, the edges don't always get to the device and back at the same time
<lanefu> ohhh gotcha
<Tonymac32> so the rockchip values don't work
<Tonymac32> at least not over 750 MHz
<lanefu> so what does your patch do? specifically
<lanefu> or like how does skew work as far as singals go
<Tonymac32> electrically I know what's going on, but in the controller/RAM I have no idea how they actually account for it
<Tonymac32> but it changes the time each physical lane is sent/looked for
<Tonymac32> so pin 3 is 50 picoseconds slower than the others lets say
<Tonymac32> in any case, adjusting to the Firefly ones made it able to hit the high speeds no problem
<lanefu> that's way cool
<lanefu> man honestly we need to make some like "how to device tree" documentation... like some sort of weird cliffnotes of the kernel version of the docs, combined with maybre some reality and an opi example or something
<Tonymac32> lol
<lanefu> like i found a super recent talk where a guy super explains u-boot and device tree. and had an american accent
<lanefu> but its liek 3hours long and i didn't learn anything while sleeping to it
<Tonymac32> hahaha
<Tonymac32> hmmm, we need to move our overlays to a normal plain text format and compile them separately so they're readable
<Tonymac32> (They are plain teext but they live as hard to find patches)
<lanefu> yeah i suppose there's pro's and cons ot that tho
<lanefu> as far as staying in sync with whats in kernel
<lanefu> but i guess thats the point of maintaining them
<lanefu> there's os much testing we could codify
<Tonymac32> Well "separately" is only so separately
<lanefu> like just watching for dts cahnge in kernel to signal us to go double check our files or something (in your version idea)
<lanefu> ohhh you man not in /patches/sbc/ALLTHEPATCHES
<Tonymac32> I mean don't try to inject them into the kernel build process, do it as it's own step with the kernel source there of course
<lanefu> so if we got a patchset for something that had a device tree change? we'd just split that patch out?
<Tonymac32> I'm only talking about overlays
<lanefu> oh!
<lanefu> that's a little easier to digest
<archetech> I sent the panfrost devs a few boot log errors they jumped on it all day in the C code
<archetech> I learbed how knarly that gpu c code is
<archetech> learned
<Tonymac32> that is definitely one way to put it
<Tonymac32> :)
<lanefu> yeah i heard that the GPU code nvidia recently gave away freaked out people as it was just like a gazillion #defines
<Tonymac32> this is just :(
<Tonymac32> hmmm, why would this crash thing
<archetech> so 5.10rc1 panfrost wasnt what many hoped but its close
<lanefu> Tonymac32: yeah i see your point.. not much point in making them patches
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<chewitt> 5.10 is missing some panfrost bits someone forgot/overlooked to merge
<chewitt> there's some discussion (collusion) to perhaps smuggle them as 'fixes' to get them in, since LTS
<Tonymac32> nothing makes badly sampled/compressed music sound worse than a good set of headphones and a stable clock. XD
<Tonymac32> chewitt that would be good
<Tonymac32> collusion is such a bad word these days :P
<Tonymac32> OK, if I can't keep the H3 boards from self destructing when enabling the analog codec I might just have to stuff my top-secret pre-production 1 GB Tinker S in the box
<Tonymac32> (well, a several year old secret XD)
<Tonymac32> ok, not secret, but funny, and not great for most things because of the small RAM
<Tonymac32> but for a bluetooth endpoint? fine. I'll clock it down while I'm at it to reduce the heat
<lanefu> it will be the best pre-production tinkerboard s
<Tonymac32> hahaha
<Tonymac32> the only one in active duty anyway
<Tonymac32> asw far as can tell it's just the RAM that's different
<lanefu> i need to set my SBCs up for a little tea party
<lanefu> i can dress them up with tasks
<Tonymac32> lol
<lanefu> its so weird having the forums be readable
<Tonymac32> lol yeah
<chewitt> btw, how did the tvbox thing end up?
<chewitt> genuine ask - as an irregular visitor to the forums I've not followed the drama in detail
<chewitt> and comrade oleg is also a partial contributor to my mess too
<Tonymac32> I actually don't know, I've been on here more than in the forums
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<lanefu> i've been here more than forums for months
<lanefu> making giant response to thread now lol
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<ArmbianTwitter> @cnxsoft (CNX Software): .@TeeFirefly has launched two fanless Rockchip RK3399/RK3328 #minipc's that run Station OS with media or desktop mode, as well as #Ubuntu, #Android, and there's initial #Armbian and #LibreELEC support. There's also a #giveaway for the #RK3399 model. https://t.co/A8ZgUW04Ak (15s ago)
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<lanefu> who has TeeFirefly fanless minipc's on their desk?
* lanefu dances because restoring from timemachine to an older laptop totally worked
<lanefu> there is a santa claus
<Tonymac32> lol what
<Tonymac32> lanefu from the article : I can see balbes150 released alpha Armbian and LibreELEC image"
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<Werner> Good morning
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<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @orangepixunlong @armbian Well look at that: https://t.co/Uj81S1GQhN Feels good to give credit to people who actually deserves instead of feeding the prejudice of Chinese stealing whatever they can get, doesn't it? (17s ago)
<Werner> silver_hook_, everything is good now
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<ArmbianTwitter> @orangepixunlong (OrangePi): @DieZuckerbude @armbian Added corresponding copyright to the files we used. We must abide by the interllectual property rights. https://t.co/q7tTzrjZax (24s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): @orangepixunlong @armbian So you admit that you just added those copyright information because THE LAW FORCES YOU TO DO SO so and not because YOU LIKE TO GIVE CREDIT to those who actually deserve? Sign of inadequacy. (19s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @DieZuckerbude (Ben Zucker 🍰): Sommer was good. Autumn or almost pre-christmas hopefully gets even better. 20.11 expected for end of November 2020. https://t.co/DSrmQTxDUp #armbian #release https://t.co/yTHKc74WfS (18s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @orangepixunlong (OrangePi): @DieZuckerbude @armbian This is obviously not what I meant. We are sincerely grateful to all armbian contributors for providing such great code. We sincerely apologize for the negligence of our developer. We dont have any interest to stole anything. If we change directly to orangepi, you can say steal. (19s ago)
<Werner> Now I got what I wanted.
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<eClapton> help
<ArmbianHelper> Check out our awesome documentation! It's tremendous, promise! https://docs.armbian.com/
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<lanefu> Werner: wow well done getting attribution
<Werner> credit goes to igor that. I just nagged them to a public apology
<Werner> s/that/for that
<ArmbianHelper> Werner meant to say: credit goes to igor for that. I just nagged them to a public apology
<lanefu> Oh. Well it felt sincere. So good work on that
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<c0rnelius> is putting a copyright in a bash script really necessary? Its GPL.
<c0rnelius> People do it, but I believe there is no real legal argument to be made there.
<lanefu> No different than GPLing python code or php
<lanefu> Also I didn't realize collections can also be roles
<c0rnelius> well at least orangepi stepped up and put all the blame on the developer :D
<c0rnelius> very kind
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @DieZuckerbude: Sommer was good. Autumn or almost pre-christmas hopefully gets even better. 20.11 expected for end of November 2020. htt… (1s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @Poddingue (Bruno Verachten 🍰): @orangepixunlong I love the Zero as it is, that's a great platform with #armbian . (27s ago)
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<Heisath> Did anyone use the RockPi-E with the HDMI port?
<[TheBug]> um I think Igor and Lane have that board would have to ask them
<Heisath> lanefu, IgorPec any info?
<lanefu> I have an E, but i'm a headless man
<lanefu> also i guess thats like a micro hdmi connector?
<lanefu> i'd be glad to test but dont have cable
<lanefu> guess i coudl order
<Heisath> yeah I ordered µHDMI but it does not output anything. Also seems not to detect anything soundwise
<lanefu> µHDMI?
<Heisath> micro hdmi
<lanefu> i'll ask amazon fairy for one
<[TheBug]> ahh yeah all Raxda is micro hdmi cause RPi bro
<[TheBug]> gotta be a sheep
<[TheBug]> :D
<[TheBug]> I never got mini-DP working on RockPi 4c yet
<[TheBug]> not sure if rneese ever got DP working on NanoPc T4 either
<[TheBug]> lanefu: I can suggest https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K21HSQX and it actually dropped in price since I bought it
<[TheBug]> I paid $8.89 and it's $7.99 now
<[TheBug]> thats what I am using with RockPi 4c and works fine
<lanefu> k ordered a usb micro adapter
<lanefu> and same flash stuff
<lanefu> same day delivery lol
<[TheBug]> I also use a pair of those on my RPi 4
<lanefu> Werner: IgorPec user qblue42 asked me to delete their account and reassign the posts to guest user.... anyway...easy button was delete them and their posts.. so thats what i did
<Werner> okay
<nekomancer[m]> memory tests fron #odroid http://0x0.st/ikDI.txt
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<nekomancer[m]> chewitt, possible you have an idea, how to solve? https://forum.armbian.com/topic/15701-no-watchdog-on-n2-with-current-58-and-dev-59-kernels/
<nekomancer[m]> as a "DTS doctor"
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<chewitt> it should be inherited from here
<c0rnelius> chewitt: hey. you got a n2+ uboot bin laying around?
<c0rnelius> thanks. it is the same as the reg n2 or diff?
<c0rnelius> ur the man! exactly what I've been looking for. thanx!
<archetech> nice I want that too
<archetech> see how it goes for cOrnman
<Tonymac32> chewitt G12b is somehow inheriting GX stuff? I didn't see that in the device tree, but I haven't exhaustively searched either...
<chewitt> watchdog@f0d0 {
<chewitt> compatible = "amlogic,meson-gxbb-wdt";
<chewitt> reg = <0x0 0xf0d0 0x0 0x10>;
<chewitt> clocks = <&xtal>;
<chewitt> };
<chewitt> ^ prob needs something like that
<chewitt> looks like gx devices inherit from meson-gx.dtsi, but g12 doesn't
<chewitt> but meson-axg.dtsi references ^ that code
<chewitt> so you can probably copy it to meson-g12-common.dtsi
<chewitt> as axg and g12 have a lot in common
<chewitt> the forum post with snippet from vendor kernel shows "watchdog@0xffd0f0d0" so looks like the same address
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<Tonymac32> gotcha
<chewitt> it compiles .. no idea whether it works .. let me know :)
<chewitt> I have no idea what a watchdog is, let alone how to test it
<chewitt> C4 here shows /dev/watchdog ..
<nekomancer[m]> <chewitt "https://github.com/chewitt/linux"> yes, seems same patch as I used. yes, it compiles. But no /dev record.
<nekomancer[m]> meson-gxbb-wdt vs meson-wdt
<nekomancer[m]> <chewitt "C4 here shows /dev/watchdog .. "> with 5.8, 5.9, or other?
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<chewitt> 5.9.1 but driver is upstream for a long time so should be fine
<chewitt> did you enable the module in defconfig?
<chewitt> C4:/ # find / -name watchdog
<nekomancer[m]> I check it enabled
<chewitt> /dev/watchdog
<chewitt> /proc/sys/kernel/watchdog
<chewitt> /sys/class/misc/watchdog
<chewitt> /sys/class/watchdog
<chewitt> /sys/devices/platform/soc/ff800000.bus/ff80f0d0.wtd/misc/watchdog
<chewitt> /sys/devices/platform/soc/ff800000.bus/ff80f0d0.wtd/watchdog
<chewitt> /sys/module/stmmac/parameters/watchdog
<chewitt> /sys/module/watchdog
<chewitt> ^ looks present
<nekomancer[m]> yes, it is
<chewitt> test it, then pm me a real name and email for 'Tested-by: blah <blah@blah.com>' and I'll send it upstream
<nekomancer[m]> ok. Iw it will work on my n2...
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<nekomancer[m]> meson-g12b-odroid-n2.dtsi includes meson-g12b-s922x.dtsi
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<nekomancer[m]> c4 use all other dts
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<Werner> Thore-Krug, works I guess :P
<Thore-Krug> Yeah armbian does
<Thore-Krug> Lemme get my username reserved
<Werner> Their services nickserv and chanserv provide great documentation via help for each command
<Thore-Krug> Got it working
<Thore-Krug> this new interface and so one is so much better then the last time i checked irc out
<Werner> You may want to get a proper irc client rather than using the webchat but that is up to you ;) (psst: weechat is nice :P)
<Thore-Krug> Im pretty sure that my work doesnt allow me to use weechat even when using it on my private phone ;)
<Werner> I see
<Werner> I solved this "issue" by SSHin into a remote screen session and run weechat there :D
<c0rnelius> You can setup weechat with glowing bear and use a web browser.
<c0rnelius> Usually how I roll unless I'm on my phone.
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<stipa> wow, i had some time static ip's on my interfaces and the whole time dhcp client was on and dhcp server in network assigned ip adress as well to all those interfaces with static ip adresses on armbian machine :D
<stipa> what a mess
<Tonymac32> oof yeah
<stipa> hope half of things now won't be buggy
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<Tonymac32> I try to set statics from the router side to avoid that
<Tonymac32> our outside of the dynamic pool
<stipa> i see, i have a shitty ISP router so i transfered dhcp and dns servers to armbian AP, everything is rock solid that way. Half of wifi stuff i have won't even connect to the router that ISP gave me.
<Tonymac32> hahaha typical
<stipa> yeah
<stipa> a mess
<basti> Hello everyone, I currently work a little bit with armbian in order to get a kernel development setup going on my nano pc-t4. I've read a lot of documentation and tried a few builds (some with weird results like flickering and pixelated monitor output). But one thing is still a bit unclear to me: What is my best course of action if I want to have the latest kernel sources for lets say the
<basti> /drivers/staging/media/rkisp1. What I currently read is that I can add all of the recent patches that have been applied since the latest armbian image. But is it maybe also possible to build that armbian image with the very latest linux media tree? I'm not entierly sure if I already understand how much work lies behind those words, so I am thankful for any input! Thanks for any help.
<Tonymac32> hello Basti, that will result in some extra work, but hang on a moment
<chewitt> nekomancer[m] Tonymac32 revised patch, confirmed working by narmstrong https://github.com/chewitt/linux/commit/1c7ff5285878ee8a2d46a5f85c8fa3b9e7dafd05
<chewitt> node was moved from wrong bus to right bus
<Tonymac32> awesome chewitt
<Tonymac32> thanks
<Tonymac32> if you build a dev image it will be 5.9 at least, if it builds. Patches/packaging scripts/etc may not have been cleaned up yet
<Tonymac32> https://docs.armbian.com/ can explain what to add to the script configs if you can't see the advanced dev options yet
<chewitt> typo :)
<basti> Ok thank you I will look into those information
<Tonymac32> : )
<Tonymac32> OK, compiling a blueooth speaker example for my ESP32 board is easier than arguing with Pulse Audio :D
<chewitt> I got an RTL8822CS driver to build earlier too .. which is appearing in S905X3 boxes
<Tonymac32> nice
<chewitt> haven't tested it yet as I don't have hardware, but i'm sure someone will pop up
<chewitt> send emOne my way if you see him .. ISTR he has an 'air' box with the card
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<nekomancer[m]> chewitt: I will test this https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-amlogic/patch/20201030180057.23886-1-christianshewitt@gmail.com/ with N2 -current and -dev nearest night
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<archetech> cmd: Machine: Type: ARM Device System: Pine64 Rock64 details: N/A serial: 2101ea5a9c1c0b9
<archetech> cmd: Graphics: Device-1: display-subsystem driver: rockchip_drm v: N/A
<archetech> cmd: Device-2: rk3328-mali driver: lima v: kernel
<archetech> cmd: Device-3: rk3328-dw-hdmi driver: dwhdmi_rockchip v: N/A
<archetech> cmd: Display: server: X.org 1.20.9 driver: modesetting resolution: <xdpyinfo missing>
<archetech> cmd: OpenGL: renderer: Mali450 v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.0-devel (git-dd003abd2f)
<fromport> so glad i finally got my helios stable, just by choosing performance governor instead of on-demand. even 4.4 kernels weren't stable (for me) until the governer change.
<archetech> never hard of that fix
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<archetech> heard
<archetech> guess that could help
<fromport> posted in this thread: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/15431-helios64-support/page/7/ gprovost gave the solution based on similar data from another 3399 board
<archetech> I know this board is uboot ghz defective
<lanefu> archetech: what command makes that output
<lanefu> fromport: that's intresting... which kernel are you on ow
<lanefu> ahh you're talking helios64, not helios4.. okay that helps my brain now
<[TheBug]> ya, rk3399
<lanefu> yeah helios4 just runs at full speed, no gov as far as I know.. the fans to the work
<lanefu> lol
<silver_hook_> Werner: Good to hear it got resolved :)
<archetech> /cmd exec inxi
<archetech> show us ur wares!
<archetech> /exec cmd exec inxi
<archetech> im on kobversation-wayland
<archetech> kon
<lanefu> hmm i just ran inxi from my n2 desktop
<lanefu> and ot desn't talk about that fanc stuff
<archetech> add demidecode
<archetech> dmidecode
<lanefu> hmm didn't seem to have an impact
<lanefu> just cpu info for inxi
<lanefu> nothign for dmidecode
<archetech> whats the client
<lanefu> xfce4-terminal and bash :P
<archetech> lol its done with the irc client add ons
<lanefu> so it's not hte same as the inxi CLI tool?
<archetech> inxi is same
<lanefu> lane@odroidn2:~$ sudo inxi
<lanefu> CPU: 6-Core (2-Die) Model N/A (-MCP MCM-) speed/min/max: 1512/100/1992:1908 MHz Kernel: 5.8.16-meson64 aarch64 Up: 12d 19h 11m
<lanefu> Mem: 3129.1/3633.4 MiB (86.1%) Storage: 29.12 GiB (28.3% used) Procs: 244 Shell: Bash inxi: 3.1.07
<archetech> on that you want hexchat w/ lua and python2
<lanefu> yeah my IRC is on headless orangepi
<archetech> so odnt do that use the de irc
<archetech> dont
<lanefu> that's just not gonna work for me
<lanefu> lol
<archetech> yeah relay kills it I guess
<[TheBug]> thats what she said*
<lanefu> contactors only
<archetech> not like ya have to use the relay either
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<archetech> my toys are aall fixed :(
<archetech> need a project
<lanefu> archetech: you get a pinebook pro yet?
<archetech> just say no to rockchip is my motto
<lanefu> i've got rock64 plugged in on hte SBC tree right now... pretending to work
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<lanefu> it's not working, but it's pretending to
<archetech> ill bring this down and try rebuilding uboot by hand with diff blobs to fix the mem freq instability
<lanefu> that'd be dope
<archetech> should compile they say
<lanefu> you think it's a blob thing? and not just like a device tree timing thing?
<archetech> ill give ya the thread in a few
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<archetech> segfaul thread
<c0rnelius> why not just use atf and mainline?
<lanefu> why is anything, anything?
<archetech> for a rock64 v2?
<c0rnelius> yeap
<archetech> its arch so see their repo for ubbot ver
<archetech> uboot
<c0rnelius> tis what why I use
<c0rnelius> for nanopc-t4 as well
<c0rnelius> and renegade
<archetech> got a v2?
<c0rnelius> yeap
<c0rnelius> suppose to be... got it for a whole 8 dollors from amazon
<c0rnelius> dollars*
<[TheBug]> so same 1Gb variant
<[TheBug]> if your lucky v2
<lanefu> archetech: nice find dude
<archetech> can it compile at -j2
<[TheBug]> did you open and check
<c0rnelius> yah
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<archetech> or -j3
<lanefu> c0rnelius: can it run for 3 days without dropping dead?
<[TheBug]> lanefu: btw mine did I ran it 9 days but not under any high load
<c0rnelius> as far as I know, yes
<c0rnelius> let me boot it, one sec
<[TheBug]> but had a desktop image up and sitting
<lanefu> man
<[TheBug]> I still have it on sdcard
<lanefu> this is armbian, with nomad, consul, and like no workload
<lanefu> just drops dead
<[TheBug]> lanefu: if you remember I ran sbc-bench on it
<archetech> bug you got a v2?
<[TheBug]> yeah, 1gb v2
<[TheBug]> same one you asked me about weeks ago
<[TheBug]> I ran sbc-bench on it w/ lanefu and tonymac32 same day I got it
<archetech> got arch onit?
<[TheBug]> then I left it up on one of the more recent images at 1.5Ghz for 9 days or so
<[TheBug]> no Armbian
<archetech> what kernel ver?
<archetech> can it compile at -j2?
<[TheBug]> Armbian_20.08.1_Rock64_bionic_current_5.8.6_desktop.img
<[TheBug]> I dunno, I asked you to provide me a test you wanted me to run you never gave me a set of instructions or tests, if you have something you like me to run, put in pastebin and link and I will run it
<archetech> makes no sense nobody has that booting on a v2 afaik
<archetech> the sdcard corrupts right away
<c0rnelius> its a rev 2... works just fine using mainline uboot
<lanefu> sounds like it varies by board
<lanefu> given the insanity between the 2 v2 boards arch adn i have
<archetech> lanefu: yes we found that out too
<lanefu> where 1 would run images and one woudlnt
<archetech> but you didnt get a recon sentry
<archetech> think bug did
<lanefu> i got a few friends that did
<[TheBug]> I for sure did got the goofy case and lcd and all
<lanefu> honestly archetech I really think its from the same batch
<lanefu> sd card is identical, and power supply
<lanefu> just like there's another batch out there thats hte board, the sdcard, the display, power supply adn no case
<archetech> just no case eh
<lanefu> yeah
<c0rnelius> [TheBug]: so you got the same one I got
<lanefu> are there dates on the boars or just revs
<archetech> v2 2017-04 I think is the date n mine we checked that
<archetech> so ill try this then maybe try another image
<archetech> but as you see in the thread im not alone
<lanefu> interesting
<lanefu> mine is 2017-0713
<lanefu> April showers bring sentinel flowers
<archetech> ok mines same
<lanefu> i need a new assignment for my SBC tree... who should it be... opi one, PC2, la frite, H64, RockPi X ( feels wrong having Intel in the tree), opi zero, Opi Plus2e, Tritium h5, Rockpi S
<archetech> none
<lanefu> you want me to just leave my SBC tree Lopsided
<c0rnelius> ok. I'm gonna compile the 5.9.2 kernel on it at full -j*. lets see if it the poor thing dies.
<archetech> pls do
<[TheBug]> to note, I was doing it with a 20mmx20mm heatsink thermal glued to SoC w/ 5v fan on top
<[TheBug]> when I was testing
<c0rnelius> yah i got a fan and heatsink. its rockchip afterall :)
<archetech> mkimage -n rk3328 -T rksd -d rk3328_ddr_333MHz_v1.16.bin idbloader16.img
<lanefu> Details TBD, but I guess it's certainly time start preparing for native building on arm..... https://github.com/WorksOnArm/cluster/issues/223
<archetech> so that will create the .img name at the end of command?
<archetech> cool
<archetech> ls
<c0rnelius> archetech: you know how to read functions? atf and mainline is way easier and only need two files and don't need the silly trust.ini garbage.
<archetech> yes may try that next
<archetech> time to boot and test
<Tonymac32> rock64 is running mainline ATF in our build system at this point
<c0rnelius> be nice if amlogic got on the atf bandwagon
<archetech> got a cms to tell what my mem spped is at?
<archetech> cmd
<ArmbianTwitter> @unixterminal (Hayden Barnes): @ryan_keppel @thepine64 RockPro64. Their fastest SBC, good 1&3 pty accessories, USB3, PCIe slot, what powers the PineBook. I added eMMC & heatsink. Unless you are looking for a cheap laptop, then just get PineBook. Downside is less official distro support but this works well: https://t.co/Gf7rwdRCjL (27s ago)
<archetech> got a cmd to tell what my mem speed is at?
<Tonymac32> c0rnelius amlogic has the ultra secret cortex-M running the power/clock show, they seem unlikely to give that up
<c0rnelius> Tonymac32: yeah they be a bunch of dicks :D
<Tonymac32> :D
<archetech> alarm@alarm-r64 ninja-1.10.0]$ python3 configure.py --bootstrap this always kills it
<archetech> ps_log.cc:89:6: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
<archetech> 89 | bool DepsLog::RecordDeps(Node* node, TimeStamp mtime,
<archetech> | ^~~~~~~
<archetech> Please submit a full bug report,
<archetech> crap
<archetech> nest idea
<archetech> next
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<rpifan> hello
<rpifan> apparently it can run deian
<rpifan> debian but there are no clear instructions
<archetech> c0rnelius: how do I get this mline-atf thing you got for arch
<archetech> they just have me run pacman -Sy uboot-rock64 after first boot
<archetech> which is not atf afaik
<archetech> its 2015
<Tonymac32> rpifan that is a crusty old Marvell part it looks like
<archetech> uboot
<Tonymac32> unfortunately I don't think we have any environment set up for something like that
<rpifan> oh really
<rpifan> i took it apart
<rpifan> but the chip seems to be on another board
<c0rnelius> you gonna compile it by hand?
<rpifan> would openwrt be more appropriate for it then?
<rpifan> well i'd be willing to do so sure
<rpifan> i guess crosscompile
<Tonymac32> looking at the specs, I think probably.
<Tonymac32> it's an arm9 or arm11
<rpifan> is that too old for armbian / debian?
<Tonymac32> looking up datasheet
<rpifan> MV78100 SoCs.
<Tonymac32> "The MV78100 incorporates a fully ARMv5TE-compliant dual-issue CPU core with a double-precision, IEEE compliant Floating-point Unit (FPU), and 512 KB of L2 cache."
<rpifan> thats what it says on the wiki
<Tonymac32> which is an arm9(alphabet soup to say it's newer than a V4T
<c0rnelius> archetech: are you native or cross compiling?
<rpifan> Tonymac32, yea that numbers for arm chips are really confusing, so is this able to run armbian?
<Tonymac32> Not at the moment, you'd have to build the BSP
<Tonymac32> even the old A20 boards are a Cortex-A core
<Tonymac32> Sorry :/
<rpifan> so too old?
<Tonymac32> yes
<Tonymac32> I mean, it's really just that we don't support anything in the same family
<rpifan> totally understandable
<Tonymac32> so same thing for the I.MX8 on my desk, if I want Armbian on it, I have to do all the work to bring it into the build system
<archetech> native
<rpifan> thats a bit much for my linux skills
<rpifan> id do it gladly for the exercise if there was a step by step guide
<Tonymac32> Documentation is always the weakest part of any volunteer project. We have some documentation on how to use the build tools
<Tonymac32> docs.armbian.com
<Tonymac32> but nothing on adding a new family
<Tonymac32> I give Buffalo credit, they have device trees and stuff, they're better than most of our TV box friends XD
<rpifan> yea
<rpifan> lol
<c0rnelius> archetech: what distro you building on?
<archetech> arch
<archetech> on the rock
<archetech> so you gonna tell me what you did ?
<archetech> c0rnelius: how do I get this mline-atf thing you got for arch
<archetech> I can try or shut it down dont matter to me
<c0rnelius> archetech: https://pastebin.com/Xazf6hGJ
<c0rnelius> just the basics
<c0rnelius> not sure the depends you'll need for arch
<c0rnelius> if you have a ubuntu or debian install available you can just use my builder.
<c0rnelius> and this rock64 is slowly plugging away... poor old grrl.
<c0rnelius> as the other one is master
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<archetech> ok I have a bullseye ill boot
<archetech> oops thats for n2
<archetech> that paste is elegant
<lanefu> woohoo amaclaus came.. got my mini hdmi adapter and some flash stuffs
<archetech> how so fast
<lanefu> east coast livin
<lanefu> getting an orangepi one via same day delivey is exactly how i got int this armbian mess in the first place
<archetech> they sent a drone
<[TheBug]> or just live 5 miles from the distribution center ;p
<[TheBug]> lucky lanefu over there
<[TheBug]> lol
<lanefu> Richmond's got a lot goin for it
<c0rnelius> pssh
<c0rnelius> no one can drive there ha
<c0rnelius> I have never seen so many cars fucked on the side of the highway anywhere else. good people though ;)
<lanefu> Virginia State Police loves to pull over out of state plates for sure
<lanefu> I always found driving in milwaukee amazing
<lanefu> they had some insane rushhour.. were people really just drove in any lane.. and I've never seen som many random cars just pop a front ball joint in the middle of an interactionin my life
<lanefu> *intersection
<c0rnelius> never been. I wouldn't mind going though. I live in the Maryland/DC area for like 20 years.
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<c0rnelius> I'm back in Miami now... the world where everyone has a license yet doesn't know how to read a sign. Its good times ;D
<lanefu> haha
<lanefu> NoVA, DC-metro is a hot mess
<rpifan> miami
<c0rnelius> its a very special place, that never grows on you.
<rpifan> i do kinda missing living there
<lanefu> i mean when my buddies lived in DC proper that was fun
<c0rnelius> yeah DC rocks
<c0rnelius> greate shows, venues and food
<c0rnelius> great*
<c0rnelius> love Baltimore too
<archetech> if you have a ubuntu or debian install available you can just use my builder.
<archetech> whats that mean
<archetech> I have an armb builder
<archetech> which needs its kernel pinned if ya have a command