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<ArmbianTwitter> @2g (John Lenovo): Watch "Armbian Instructions : How to install Armbian Linux headless on your SBC" on YouTube https://t.co/8xhTSJ43yl (26s ago)
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* Tony_mac32 posts screenshot of Armbian desktop with a floppy drive, waits for Twitter to notice XD https://twitter.com/TonyMac_32/status/1315470483119321089
<archetech> usb or gpio ?
<lanefu> Tony_mac32: well done
<lanefu> Werner: hey great job on that video w/ Nico
<Tony_mac32> USB lol, I just liked the Floppy drive sitting on my desktop.
<Tony_mac32> I think I just found an apple IIgs disk
* nekomancer[m] happy floppies are gone. Last 3-5 years was a suffer.
<Tony_mac32> hahaha 1.44 MB wasn't much room
<Tony_mac32> at least not once pictures came around, before music
<archetech> i still use my usb flop for bios updates
<Tony_mac32> oh wow, I've used a flash drive for that
<archetech> some old stuf thats no go
<Tony_mac32> as far as GPIO goes, I think you could probably hook up a floppy disk controller IC via GPIO provided Linux still has drivers for them
<archetech> i was thinking thats how ya did it would be neat
<archetech> usb meh
<nekomancer[m]> I set clean_level to deb,images, and kernel_konfig=no, but seems kernel kind of rebuild on every run. why?
<archetech> lol try c vs k
<Tony_mac32> kernel_config
<Tony_mac32> because we have more than one hard "k" sound
<Tony_mac32> because island got invaded a lot
<archetech> might be a ruskie thing
<Tony_mac32> in German a "K" noise is a "k" 99% of the time too
<Tony_mac32> Not knowing the Russian characters, well, no idea, couldn't learn the language on my own. (tried briefly)
<archetech> dont forget q is hard too
<Tony_mac32> I blame France
<nekomancer[m]> it was "rephrase". there is a copy: `./compile.sh BOARD=odroidn2 BRANCH=current RELEASE=focal BUILD_MINIMAL=no BUILD_DESKTOP=no KERNEL_ONLY=no KERNEL_CONFIGURE=no CLEAN_LEVEL="debs,images"`
<Tony_mac32> I rebuild on every run so I don't know unfortunately
<nekomancer[m]> russian is much more fonethical then english and deutch
<Tony_mac32> more than Deutsch? I don't know if that's possible
<Tony_mac32> of course the only thing less phonetic than English seems to be French. :P
<nekomancer[m]> you can just read russian words letter-by-letter, always same way — it will be not same as we speak, but every russian easily understand it.
<Tony_mac32> That is good to know. Now to learn the greek/roman/unknown combination of characters...
<Tony_mac32> archetech I'll make a floppy drive hat for the Rock64 so you can have a truly cursed machine
<Tony_mac32> mangle a u-boot to use it from the SPI flash so you can load bare metal programs from it
<archetech> ill try it on my n2
<Tony_mac32> A sloppy drive is in the future for my RC2014, but it's a CP/M machine so that makes sense
<Tony_mac32> opps, did I say sloppy? Freudian slip
<archetech> usb flop mounts fine on n2
<nekomancer[m]> by the way — do you know it exist https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32971657707.html
<Tony_mac32> hahaha
<Tony_mac32> I guess I know why it exists, but wow. Easy enough to accomplish I guess, it's well documented interface
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<archetech_D> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Debian 9.12 • CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) (867MHz) • Memory: Physical: 485.6 MiB Total (348.3 MiB Free) Swap: 468.7 MiB Total (468.7 MiB Free) • Storage: 3.3 GB / 10.0 GB (6.6 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Rage XL PCI @ Broadcom CNB20LE Host Bridge • Uptime: 22m 15s
<archetech_D> System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP NetServer v: LP 1000r
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<Werner> Good morning
<nekomancer[m]> good morning
<IgorPec> good morning
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): @TonyMac_32 Floppy drive? :D (18s ago)
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<lanefu> morning
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<Werner> Morning Lane
<IgorPec> lane morning
<HerculeP> good afternoon :)
<IgorPec> indeed
<HerculeP> dde/focal works much better than budgie on my odroidc2, pretty "snappy"
<HerculeP> found only one quirk yet: after reboot (which works on emmc) the DT/GUI is kinda intermixed/garbled /w CLI Login:
<HerculeP> workaround: dont start /w DT but /w CLI, startx into DT thereafter
<HerculeP> sound from webradio works well via HDMI
<rneese> nice
<rneese> I am working on cleaning my repo and will checkinto this
<rneese> I do know that firstrun script creates the autologin but it fails on dde
<rneese> so give me a bit to get my repos back in line per desktop
<rneese> and I will review a build
<rneese> ok wait
<rneese> you have to goto control console and disable windows -effects
<rneese> there is a kwin bug
<rneese> once you disable the windows efects it all works fine
<rneese> known buug being worked on
<HerculeP> ok, will try
<HerculeP> temerature 32..35C (w/o fan) btw
<HerculeP> no big tasks running
<rneese> well we are just working on alpha builds for desktops at the min . I will be adding in board fixes per builds once we get all this working
<rneese> but thanks for the first test
<rneese> sorry budgie wa so slow
<rneese> it has to be gnome related
<rneese> as its based on gnoe and dde is qt based
<rneese> ok igore I split each desktop into its own branch to track changes
<HerculeP> I did like dde better, didnt get "warm" /w budgie menu etc
<rneese> and I am working to check the other patches now
<rneese> I like dde alot
<lanefu> what's left to get myy's desktp branch merged into master?
<rneese> thats why it will be a great add to armbiann
<rneese> well I am redoing patches
<lanefu> redoing kernel patches?
<rneese> we have to get it merged with head for patching next
<HerculeP> reminds me on ubuntu/mate which I used for a long time on this oc2
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<rneese> at the min I am doing desktop patches
<lanefu> oh okay
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<rneese> mate is in the list of being added
<rneese> so is lxde/lxqt
<HerculeP> kernel 3.xx from hardk. IIRC
<lanefu> like literally making .patch files? or just talking abotu config mods etc
<HerculeP> would be nice to switch DT via armbian-config
<rneese> lanefu, at the min we have to get the desktop branch and the head branch merged so that we can fix what the desktop branch is missing
<HerculeP> like switching kernels
<rneese> thats in the works but we have to get stage 1 done
<HerculeP> ah, sure
<lanefu> yeah and/or being able to choose which one you launch by cooosing session in lgihtdm
<rneese> but it gets ugly becuse you would have to deinstall all the pkgs and reinstall for the new desktop
<lanefu> rneese: are you pushing change back to myy's desktop branch?
<rneese> I pushed this am
<rneese> he has pull rquest
<lanefu> do you know what myy is still working on before we attempt merge?
<rneese> I need him to kill #11 and go with the new ones
<rneese> well I need to fiinish pushing before we merge
<rneese> let me finish my work
<rneese> but anything that is not in the armbian-desktop that should be pushed yes
<Werner> Any chance to finish sftp access for forums soon so we can get your acp back?
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<ArmbianTwitter> @pedro4286 (M A N T E C A): @armbian @TonyMac_32 It also has a Zip disk but I haven’t figured out how to use it yet (5s ago)
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<lanefu> Werner: yeah i dunno why the dumb chroot stuff isnt working
<IgorPec> lanefu: strange since i did exactly the same as at home
<IgorPec> while here it works
<IgorPec> also ubuntu 20.04
<IgorPec> dare we make a system update and reboot ?:)
<lanefu> IgorPec: hang on i almost got it now
<IgorPec> ok
<lanefu> IgorPec: got it!
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<IgorPec> not
<lanefu> lane@armdocker-3:~$ sftp forumsupport@stuff.armbian.com
<lanefu> Enter passphrase for key '/home/lane/.ssh/id_rsa':
<lanefu> Enter passphrase for key '/home/lane/.ssh/id_rsa':
<lanefu> forumsupport@stuff.armbian.com's password:
<lanefu> Connected to stuff.armbian.com.
<IgorPec> i stil can go up
<lanefu> sftp> ls
<lanefu> 404error.php Credits.txt admin api applications cache conf_global.dist.php conf_global.php constants.php constants.php.bak datastore dav.php error error.php
<lanefu> favicon.ico favicon.ico-backup hooks igor index.html index.php init.php initdata.php interface ips4.php ips_kernel lofiversion mobiquo1 mobiquo2
<lanefu> oauth plugins public pwd robots.txt robotstxt.txt sitemap.php sitemap.xml sphinxapi.php stats system upgrading.html uploads
<lanefu> sftp> quit
<lanefu> lane@armdocker-3:~$ ssh forumsupport@stuff.armbian.com
<lanefu> Enter passphrase for key '/home/lane/.ssh/id_rsa':
<lanefu> forumsupport@stuff.armbian.com's password:
<lanefu> PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
<lanefu> This service allows sftp connections only.
<lanefu> Connection to stuff.armbian.com closed.
<lanefu> yeah... if we chroot, then it bitches about user not owning hte files
<IgorPec> chroot doesn't worko
<lanefu> where i sthis user is only in the group
<IgorPec> even we add it to the group?
<lanefu> yeah that's what i did
<IgorPec> there is forum group
<IgorPec> php runs under it
<lanefu> yep, the user is added to it
<lanefu> already
<IgorPec> and doesn't help?
<IgorPec> read only is enough
<IgorPec> to "look" :)
<lanefu> they should be able to write adn read to forum folder
<lanefu> but yeah when i did chroot Oct 12 11:14:06 stuff sshd[550651]: fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory "/var/www/forum.armbian.com"
<lanefu> Oct 12 11:14:06 stuff sshd[550526]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user forumsupport
<lanefu> see bottom of /etc/ssh/sshd_config if you want ot tinker more
<lanefu> i made forum the primary user for forumsupport
<IgorPec> one moment, let me check
<IgorPec> cause i have similar problems the other day setting up this for users.armbian
<IgorPec> what would be wrong if we make password to "forum" and use that?
<lanefu> haha i was thinking the same
<IgorPec> try that
<lanefu> yeah i guess its okay since it's still using nologin, and ssh is intercepting
<IgorPec> yep
<lanefu> k hang on
<IgorPec> and it will be limited to ip and closed once we don't need it
<lanefu> same problem
<IgorPec> shit
<IgorPec> overlay?
<lanefu> i can't even spell overlay
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<IgorPec> chroot works in case directory is /somethingnormal right=
<IgorPec> ?
<lanefu> havent tried that
<lanefu> i'm using internal-sftp which is supposed to be simpler
<IgorPec> yes, but still you have to tell where is chroot base dir
<IgorPec> try if its /test
<IgorPec> owned by this user
<IgorPec> remember to remove pwd from "forum"
<lanefu> hmm
<lanefu> same with test
<lanefu> root@stuff:/var/log# tail /etc/ssh/sshd_config
<lanefu> Match User forum
<lanefu> ForceCommand internal-sftp
<lanefu> PasswordAuthentication yes
<lanefu> # ChrootDirectory /var/www/forum.armbian.com
<lanefu> ChrootDirectory /test
<lanefu> PermitTunnel no
<lanefu> AllowAgentForwarding no
<lanefu> AllowTcpForwarding no
<IgorPec> wait a minute
<lanefu> X11Forwarding no
<lanefu> PermitTTY no
<IgorPec> well, i am not using password but keys
<IgorPec> that is the only diff so far found
<lanefu> whats yoru dir perm look like
<lanefu> ls -ldls -ld /path
<lanefu> lol sorry
<IgorPec> drwx------ 4 lanefu sftpusers 4096 Sep 20 10:36 lanefu
<IgorPec> perhaps chmod 700 ?
<lanefu> that ounds crazy but will try
<IgorPec> on directory is the key?
<lanefu> i'm happy to test that didnt owrk
<lanefu> okay.. quick googlign says maybe dont use internal-sftp
<IgorPec> Match Group sftpusers
<IgorPec> ChrootDirectory /ext/%u
<IgorPec> X11Forwarding no
<IgorPec> AllowTcpForwarding no
<IgorPec> #Banner /var/run/motd.dynamic
<IgorPec> PermitTunnel no
<IgorPec> AllowAgentForwarding no
<IgorPec> ForceCommand internal-sftp
<IgorPec> that's my config
<lanefu> "internal-sftp require chrooted user home to reside inside root-owned dir:"
<lanefu> says the google
<IgorPec> ok, own it
<IgorPec> mr root :)
<lanefu> i'm fraid that's gonna hurt more than it helps
<lanefu> let me try turning off internal-sfp
<IgorPec> i actually have nfs shares mounted further to the tree
<IgorPec> so its even more complicated and it works
<IgorPec> ups
<IgorPec> leave internal-sfp
<IgorPec> and make your dir drwxr-sr-x 4 root root 4 Sep 20 17:49 lanefu
<IgorPec> and inside that dir symlink forum and we are done
<lanefu> let me stubbornly try one thing
<IgorPec> sure, but this is solution i think. this is what i missed out yesterday
<lanefu> trying your wya now
<lanefu> :)
<IgorPec> :)
<lanefu> lane@armdocker-3:~$ sftp forumsupport@stuff.armbian.com
<lanefu> Enter passphrase for key '/home/lane/.ssh/id_rsa':
<lanefu> forumsupport@stuff.armbian.com's password:
<lanefu> Connected to stuff.armbian.com.
<lanefu> sftp> ls
<lanefu> forum.armbian.com
<lanefu> sftp> cd forum.armbian.com
<lanefu> Couldn't canonicalize: No such file or directory
<IgorPec> ok, but you are inside chroot now, right?
<lanefu> yeah
<lanefu> you wanna take over from here, i'm running low on time at the momment
<IgorPec> ok, i will
<lanefu> i'm guessing /var/www needs sticybit or somethig
<IgorPec> still password on forum?
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<lanefu> IgorPec: yeah i assigned same password to forum and forum support
<IgorPec> ok
<lanefu> i think it's funny you and i both obviously cringed at the idea of using standard sftp lol
<lanefu> standard *ftp
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<IgorPec> yeah probably
<IgorPec> its the same
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<lanefu> IgorPec: lol you broke the forum pretty quick
<IgorPec> its back
<IgorPec> :)
<IgorPec> i will not touch it now, i need to think about what next
<IgorPec> low on ideas
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<lanefu> can you hardlink a direcotry?
<lanefu> or just symlink
<lanefu> or we coudl do it the wya i had earlier where it didnt chroot, but put them in /var/www/forum.armbian.com has home directory adn htey were in the group :P
<IgorPec> another option is installing ftpd
<lanefu> yeah just feels like going to 1995
<IgorPec> yeah
<lanefu> IgorPec: and I are being like a classic IT department to Werner and taking forever to do something simple
<IgorPec> its obviously not simple :)
<IgorPec> its tricky
<lanefu> haha yeah
<lanefu> doing it "right" is always a PITA
<Werner> sometimes simple tasks are getting tricky
<Werner> I try to install ubuntu server on a ssd that already has partitions on it. the installer does not let me delete partition, i have to switch consoles and use cfdisk...makes no sense to me. then I choose /boot and / but it still wants a "boot disk"...
<Werner> simple task, install ubuntu server...if it would work
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<[TheBug]> lanefu: whats going on there, need some help?
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<rneese> lanefu, whats wrong with git on your box
<rneese> its saying git switch is unknoown command
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<rneese> nm got what Ineeded
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<ArmbianTwitter> @TonyMac_32 (Thomas McKahan): @pedro4286 @armbian In this case I thought it was funny having a floppy disk on the desktop for an Asus Tinker Board. 😆 (19s ago)
<lanefu> rneese: such accusatory language
<lanefu> lol
<archetech> yes use "Fix your ^&*&%^#!"
<archetech> my fav
<ArmbianTwitter> @pedro4286 (M A N T E C A): @TonyMac_32 @armbian Oh lol (27s ago)
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<rneese> ?
<lanefu> blaming git on my vm :P
<rneese> its monday
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<jock> hello
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<rneese> o no theres a jock in the channel
<rneese> we just lost 50 brain points
<rneese> lol
<rneese> jk
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<IgorPec> lanefu: we made it, tnx to [thebug]
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<ikmaak> hi, i am getting a pine64 clusterboard setup, but i need to do a strange dance with making a new dtb that then does not stay changed during updates. is there a way to already add another dtb to the sun50i-a64-sopine-baseboard.dtb that i need to edit and maybe a trick to keep it on sun50i-a64-sopine-clusterboard.dtb for instance?
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<IgorPec> ikmaak: you can add your own dtb and telling which to use in /boot/armbianEnv.txt by adding fdtfile=allwinner/mydtb.dtb
<ikmaak> nice, thanks
<IgorPec> or make and user overlays, yes
<ikmaak> so could this be added to the normal armbian dtb list or should i use that to build images myself?
<ikmaak> the change is a one-liner
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<ikmaak> then i would only need to change the /boot/armbianEnv.txt file
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<ikmaak> if i understanc correctly the best way would be to add a custom overlay to the sun50i-a64-sopine-baseboard.dtb, and then call it in armbianEnv.txt as part of the overlays or user_overlays entry
<ikmaak> but would this custom overlay be just this one line and the part of the file it belongs to?
<ikmaak> for now i have just frozen armbian updates
<ikmaak> as there already is a dtb update in the upgrade
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<TDCroPower> Hello to all, is there any information about the new firmware 20.08.9? the changelog on the armbian page still lists 20.08.8.
<TDCroPower> The reason for my question refers to the Helios64, if the commits from aprayoga are included ;)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @SuminomAmonimus (🎃Amonimus🧛‍♂️the💀Retromancer👻): Armbian literally getting stuck whenever I try any apt-get, does wonders to my liking of these systems. (21s ago)
<DigitalMan1983_> Igor I tried a build with kernel 5.4.69 (legacy) and current build tools. Still not making it past starting kernel on the A64. Wondering if maybe an earlier commit of build tools would work
<DigitalMan1983_> ...holy shit it booted
<ArmbianHelper> .holy shit it booted [en~>eng]