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<c0rnelius>
my lord is the package manager in Fedora slow as hell.
<lanefu>
ROFLFEDORA
<c0rnelius>
i made a rock64 image to just check out the new release. I don't think I'm gonna bother making a better one. feels like running opensuse for the most part.
<[TheBug]>
c0rnelius: if y our running newer armbian kernel you may be able to get a little more by pushing it to 1.5Ghz if you have heatsink on it
<[TheBug]>
I think by default the kernel will only hit 1.3
<[TheBug]>
you can push it up though
<[TheBug]>
forget exacpt opp
<[TheBug]>
exact*
<[TheBug]>
but I assume you should be able to cat the sys file for available ones
<[TheBug]>
it gives you a slight little bump
<[TheBug]>
it's better if you have EMMC
<[TheBug]>
also
<c0rnelius>
i compiled my own for it. I'm on 5.9.1.
<c0rnelius>
and yeah I currently don't have an eMMC for it.
<c0rnelius>
and I guess if I'm honest I should have put it on a better sd
<[TheBug]>
ssd via usb3 is pretty performant also
<c0rnelius>
my current cpu freq looks right - 1512000
<c0rnelius>
i know the renegade will default at around 1.3
<[TheBug]>
ahh nice
<[TheBug]>
before they were not including the 1.5 opp at least in Armbian and they only added it at some point recently
<c0rnelius>
I patched the kernel up. some patches I snagged from armbian and others from lore.kernel.org. might be one of the patches I used.
<c0rnelius>
yea... this one - RK3328-enable-1512mhz-opp.patch
<c0rnelius>
rockchip is missing so much stuff in mainline. gotta patch it just to get the usb3 port to work.
<ArmbianTwitter>
@pfeerick (Peter): If you know GNOME on Linux, and want to help out a worthy Linux project... make your voice heard. https://t.co/sbf5Pu0hxg (16s ago)
<nekomancer[m]>
what do you think about linux header package naming? currently it not have reference to kernel version, only to armbian version or just branch (dev, current, legacy
<nekomancer[m]>
isn't good to include kernel version intp acket name?
<nekomancer[m]>
to allow to get related kernel-headers to rinning header, or when install other kernel
<archetech>
how about telling the truth instead of sounding just like Igor wants you to
<archetech>
sounds so corporate canned bs imo
<lanefu>
well I think it is the truth
<lanefu>
and that's how I write
<lanefu>
because its a corporate bs world
<archetech>
you could be more genuine bu that would cost you
<archetech>
but
<archetech>
what im saying
<lanefu>
well it's genuine, but people want to pick apart everything you say, so i'm standing in front of a mob i'm gonna choose my words carefully
<archetech>
balbes who i know little about sounds like he's protecting his turf and thats costing armbian alot
<archetech>
and he sounds paranoid in his efforts
<lanefu>
the biggste thing balbes was costing armbian was forum focus
<lanefu>
anyway i'll stand by my response. i'll stand by Igor's judgement call on balbes
<archetech>
this project is ajoke why am I even here you all mock others attempts to help while simultaneous asking for help and complaining about not getting help thats profoundly stupid and insane
<archetech>
dont you think thats truth?
<lanefu>
I don't think we mock
<lanefu>
i think yaeh sometimes people geet some harsh responsese, and even wrong ones
<lanefu>
and it can be a hostile environment
<archetech>
and that comes right from Igor and his crap attitude and competitiveness flows all throught the psychophants he has around hi who he exploits
<lanefu>
but this project is hard, i've been trying to help make it better bit by bit for the past 2 or 3 years
<archetech>
hi/him
<archetech>
you belong on your own you get stuck and split between pleasing igor and being true to your own tech vision id follow you lanefu but your compromised being tied to this project
<[TheBug]>
wow all this drama
<archetech>
get out from under this Igor and his little kingdom he isnt gonna change he's poisonous
<archetech>
and this balbes thing is a just a symptom of whats wrong in the way things are done and whats tolorated
<[TheBug]>
said the drama queen from his glass house
<archetech>
guys like thebug just want to blelong so they tow the line
<lanefu>
honsetly i reaelly don't spend time pleasing Igor... from my chair he's easy to work with, and thee project culturee has improveed from when i joined
<[TheBug]>
keep throwing rocks..
<archetech>
yes ill bet it was even worse
<lanefu>
I don't usually liek some of his responses talking about support..... sometimse tho i totally see where he's coming
<lanefu>
it was worse
<lanefu>
anyway people are gonna be dissastied etc..... only thing that i geet worked up about is when people so we don't care
<lanefu>
Anyway given your response to my post I should probably anticipate being read the riot act and I guess I'll just have to embrace it.
<archetech>
im not some lone voice Ive read tons of peeps on the web have same view I do its the mgmt not theproduct
<archetech>
soon as balbes got weird and defensive he should have been wanrned take your tvbox and fork somewhere else
<archetech>
your tweetisnt bad just sounds like pr spin
<archetech>
from human resources dept
<archetech>
how bout we have taken action on this before it gets worse blah and thats what the mob wants to hear I think
<archetech>
not explanations
<archetech>
not that the mob is right they are just scared
<archetech>
fear
<lanefu>
Yeah. Mostly I was making a logical response for the small subset of people in there that might actually use armbian
<lanefu>
And the rest of the mob is just gonna say I'm full of shit and I just have to live with it
<lanefu>
Certainly a new experience for me
<archetech>
balbes should have not made the threat if he did or even joked/implied it
<archetech>
allits really about
<archetech>
like yelling fire
<lanefu>
Yeah. Anyway despite how it reads I think some stuff was really lost in translation and like clearing things up was somewhat futile
<archetech>
sadly armbian and its mgmt which truly is deserving of criticism like ive wrote did not take action soon enough and that's what you dealing with
<archetech>
I dont think a mob would form if it was just a matter of his language /words
<lanefu>
well thing is the forum isn't on fire about it
<archetech>
thats sounds possible aspart of the issue though
<lanefu>
Reddit us
<lanefu>
Is
<archetech>
then theres the the real possibility that someone(s) using this toattack the whole project
<lanefu>
So what was handled last week internally didn't have a public resolution. And it didn't need one prior
<archetech>
call into question all images etc
<archetech>
I def see that
<archetech>
almost smells like a disinfo operation
<archetech>
or experiment at armbians expense
<archetech>
guilt by association type thing
<lanefu>
The reddit post was a little baity in its language and then quick conclusions and a game of telephone ensued
<lanefu>
Anyway I probably shouldn't let 1000 redditors keep me up till 3am again
<archetech>
no let them spin
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<archetech>
devishes
<archetech>
dervishes
<lanefu>
Yeah. I'm done feeding them I hope
<lanefu>
Alright yall have a good night
<archetech>
k
<Tonymac32>
later
<archetech>
I pasted 2 lines about an accomplishment I get a ban threat from Igor we are supposed to be happy when we fix something
<archetech>
no matter the distro it would filter down to armbian but not if it's mocked no way
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<IgorPec>
good morning
<IgorPec>
archetech which attempt of help from your side was mocked? Or was it you seeking our help to support your ideas? There is a long line of people that constantly try to do that and they are not necesarely a psyhopatcs. Just people with ideas and problems ... mocking just a few doers. Like everywhere else.
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@openoms (openoms): @kristapsk @ketominer @nvk @armbian @Raspberry_Pi @joinmarket @RaspiBlitz Well technically you have if there is a RPi3 or RPi4 around, but understandable if you want to keep the (32bit) RaspiBolt going. Some 64 bit images: https://t.co/gwFGvJzz5ghttps://t.co/n9VF9cWX4mhttps://t.co/tLlFDAB9Nc (25s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@openoms (openoms): @kristapsk @ketominer @nvk @armbian @Raspberry_Pi @joinmarket @RaspiBlitz Thank you for the link. 'pip install coincurve' solved the issue on an aarch @OdroidH C4 running @armbian. https://t.co/A2KWmFLWbV (29s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@ketominer (ketominer): @openoms @kristapsk @nvk @armbian @Raspberry_Pi @joinmarket @RaspiBlitz @OdroidH so the version pinned in jm’s requirements doesn’t work but latest does? (1s ago)
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<lanefu>
Morning
<ArmbianTwitter>
@openoms (openoms): @ketominer @kristapsk @nvk @armbian @Raspberry_Pi @joinmarket @RaspiBlitz @OdroidH Strange because there is no version pinned: https://t.co/1ViCpTg76X I have coincurve 13.0.0 installed for the user and the setup takes it is already satisfied. Using Python 3.8.5. (28s ago)
<Heisath>
Morning lanefu
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<[TheBug]>
lanefu: don't take it personal at all, people are just wanting someone to vent at and lack respect so will say whatever they think will get your riled up -- just leave it as is, not worth continuing to worry about.
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<archetech>
win home server 2011 nas smbv1 out v2 in
<archetech>
dont wanna cry
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<c0rnelius>
hey. does the n2 and n2plus share the same uboot?
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<[TheBug]>
I want to say no... because I would think one has to have differnt memory speeds and cpu frequencies to match the newer SoC limits
<[TheBug]>
it could possibly boot but I would think you would lack full speed of memory and SoC
<[TheBug]>
depends if tweaks are needing in uboot directly or just the dtb for n2+
<c0rnelius>
there is no defconfig in 2020.10 and haven't seen any patches related to it either. hmmm.
<c0rnelius>
I see two patches related to it in the armbian hub, but that looks like for HK uboot as its adding ext4 support and what have you.
<[TheBug]>
I was reading and I am not convinced maybe it was actually more a kernel change than uboot?
<[TheBug]>
but thats from about 8 minutes of searching and not a definitive answer
<lanefu>
it doees share etthe same uboot
<lanefu>
for armbian
<lanefu>
welll
<lanefu>
no
<lanefu>
i lied
<nekomancer[m]>
different dts
<lanefu>
right
<lanefu>
okay i remmebeere now
<lanefu>
so there's some uboot script that know whethre its n2 or n2+ and loads the ecorrect device tree
<lanefu>
there's a var baked into the uboot thta is able to determine if the board is n2 or n2+
<c0rnelius>
where you looking at this?
<lanefu>
from memory
<lanefu>
from when igor addede support fo n2+ and i went nuts trying to figur eout how it works