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<ArmbianTwitter> @ryjelsum (laboraparty animal): ahhh armbian is only 400mb. i miss operating system images that small (3s ago)
<Tony_mac32> archetech I sadly retired my Mini2440 a couple years ago: ARMV4T (920TDMI)
<archetech> v4 cool
<archetech> not running next!
<Tony_mac32> I was tempted to set it up in Armbian as a troll effort, but since no one likes to acknowledge andythin older than an RPi I figured it wouldn't be appreciated. :D
<archetech> old gear is fun mostly some is just junk
<archetech> like my VIA C7 board
<archetech> thats another discussion bad idea boards
<archetech> paid $10 so bad idea boards are not something I fell for
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<lanefu> wooohoo time to play will odroidn2 reboot
<lanefu> success
<lanefu> CPU: 6-Core (2-Die) Model N/A (-MCP MCM-) speed/min/max: 1608/100/1992:1908 MHz Kernel: 5.8.16-meson64 aarch64 Up: 4m
<lanefu> Mem: 596.2/3633.4 MiB (16.4%) Storage: 29.12 GiB (20.8% used) Procs: 219 Shell: Bash inxi: 3.1.07
<lanefu> that's how it's done, right archetech ?
<archetech> yes but not for a gpu mainline
<lanefu> i'll never be good enough
<archetech> need 5.9 patched and mesa 20.2 git
<archetech> 20.3 git
<archetech> got a recent bullseye laying around
<archetech> ill get that working if so
<lanefu> I'm soooo close
<lanefu> lane@odroidn2:~/tmp$ apt show libgl1-mesa-dev
<lanefu> Package: libgl1-mesa-dev
<lanefu> Version: 20.1.9-1
<archetech> remember we are bullseye only on n2 fr now on
<archetech> i borked my nico-d bullseye lol
<archetech> playin w/ uboot
<lanefu> womp
<lanefu> want a fresh one?
<archetech> pls
<archetech> give it the 5.9 kernel if ya can
<archetech> and uboot 2020.10
<archetech> heh
<archetech> I dont ask much right
<lanefu> yeah we're still on the hardkernel's uboot for that
<archetech> I know why I broke mine lol
<archetech> how bout debians uboot
* archetech cues up hey bullseye by the beatles
<c0rnelius> 2020.10 uboot works fine on the n2 or so I'm told.
<archetech> thats what I heard
<archetech> vs real life
<Tony_mac32> I had 2020.04 booting fine, but the kernel was hanging and I didn't have time to sort it out
<c0rnelius> I've only tested it on a few boards so far. nanopc-t4, renegade, rock64, nanopi neo plus2, tritium and the rpi4.
<c0rnelius> atf+mainline is pretty nice on rockchip. way easier than messing about with the rkbin+trust.ini garbage.
<lanefu> archetech: there ya go.. kernel 5.8.y and uboot 2015 just like you asked https://armbian.lane-fu.com/Armbian_20.11.0-trunk-spooky_Odroidn2_bullseye_current_5.8.16_desktop.img.xz
<lanefu> archetech: looks like dev and stable are both using kernel 5.8 for meson64
<archetech> ok didnt think u could swing 5.9
<archetech> I can do that
<lanefu> what we lack in 5.9 we make up for in personality
<archetech> lmao
<archetech> good one
<archetech> we have all the fun here on the weekends poor sods in EU
<archetech> now the hard part gotta blow away a trusty arch build for manjaro
<archetech> so I can add ubu 20 builder ....maybe
<Tony_mac32> 5.9 after our next release
<archetech> tony bologna zup
<archetech> lanefu, got desktop on that n2 yet?
<Tony_mac32> haha cleaning stuff up, for any Rock64 that boots I fixed the laggy default desktop, turns out the Mali450 is crap for windowing.
<archetech> I recomend weston for now
* archetech doesnt discuss rock64 anymore
<lanefu> archetech: using xfce w/ bullseye on n2 as we speak
<archetech> really with stock mesa eh
<lanefu> yeah i mean i don't really do any 3d shit
<lanefu> and youtube plays fine in firefox
<archetech> great im ok w that
<lanefu> music plays through my bluetooth dongle
<archetech> but wayland is the goal ya know
<lanefu> yeah i feel ya.... there are others with the desire
<lanefu> hopefully it will be others that solve
<archetech> so kick it up to xfce 4.16
<lanefu> so i thikn they just merged teh new code for us to be able to build different desktops
<lanefu> so stay tuned there
<lanefu> you've seen rneese's stuff with dde etc
<archetech> 4.16 is beta xfce
<archetech> yeah his stuff is old as heck
<archetech> dde etc
<archetech> good effort none the less
<lanefu> Tony_mac32: i got some of the delightfully overbuitl quinled boards for my xmas lights https://quinled.info/2018/09/15/quinled-dig-uno/
<Tony_mac32> haha nice
<lanefu> last near i fried a bunch of shit when i plug in 12v supplies instead of 5v lol
<lanefu> my outdoor stuff is 12v tho
<Tony_mac32> ooof
<lanefu> yeah good thign esp8266 are cheap
<lanefu> but yeah i sizzled like 2 before my brain worked
<lanefu> they were the super knock off one. so not liek a super forgiving regulator
<lanefu> aright i'm gonna celebrate my success my actually sleeping tonight
<lanefu> see yall
<archetech> lol ooof
<archetech> thks for image
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<Werner> Good morning
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<Tony_mac32> Good morning
<Tony_mac32> My Helios64 has shipped, let's see how this goes. :)
<Tony_mac32> I've been thinking, I run a heater in my shed to keep it above freezing, I think I should move my build server out there.
<Tony_mac32> :D
<Tony_mac32> save money on electricity
<Werner> haha
<Tony_mac32> part of me wants this
<Tony_mac32> and actually, when did the cuboxi guys start making big stuff? I haven't been paying attention :D
<Werner> OS Support 3 or 4 WIP :D
<Werner> s/or/of
<ArmbianHelper> Werner meant to say: OS Suppoft 3 or 4 WIP :D
<Werner> lol...well its pretty early here
<Tony_mac32> they're trying to go all "generic os" on it
<Tony_mac32> I guess internal bottlenecks are going to be rare
<Tony_mac32> will it accept my 780 TI? lol
<Werner> Do they provide arm drivers for it?
<Tony_mac32> that is a good question, but I wouldn't put a GPU like that on there :D
<Tony_mac32> solid maybe
<Tony_mac32> XD
<Werner> Did not expect that
<Tony_mac32> Jetson
<Tony_mac32> the only thing I can assume
<Tony_mac32> it does not look like I could test it on the rockpro64 though because of some memory mapping
<archetech> OS/2 on arm
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @ryjelsum: ahhh armbian is only 400mb. i miss operating system images that small (5s ago)
<IgorPec> good morning
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<Werner> Could fix the weird font in the dark theme. It is now the same as elsewhere
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<ArmbianTwitter> @linuxdevices (linuxdevices): NanoPi R2S & NanoPi NEO3 tested with Armbian – Thermal test, Ethernet and USB performance: In the first part of the review of NanoPi NEO3 and Nano R2S I checked out the hardware, with both tiny gateways powered by a Rockchip RK3328 processor but a differ… https://t.co/yHC87M8TX2 (10s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @cnxsoft (CNX Software): I've tested @FriendlyARM_ NanoPi NEO3 and R2S mini gateways with #Armbian (Ubuntu 20.04) and focused on thermal testing (CPU throttling), as well as Ethernet and USB performance. #gateway #sbc #Linux #review https://t.co/1nGB1YIUFc (23s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @cnxsoft: I've tested @FriendlyARM_ NanoPi NEO3 and R2S mini gateways with #Armbian (Ubuntu 20.04) and focused on thermal testing (CPU… (11s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @tuxmachines (Tux Machines): NanoPi R2S & NanoPi NEO3 tested with Armbian – Thermal test, Ethernet and USB performance https://t.co/DZXYJG1wbB (4s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @schestowitz (Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)): NanoPi R2S & #NanoPi NEO3 tested with #Armbian – Thermal test, Ethernet and USB performance https://t.co/6OcCqfW3tS (10s ago)
<ArmbianTwitter> @DataAugmented (SyntaxError): NanoPi R2S & NanoPi NEO3 tested with Armbian – Thermal test, Ethernet and USB performance https://t.co/kFlkW857Lj #Hardware #Debian #Ubuntu (11s ago)
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<jock> hello!
<lanefu> hi Jock
<jock> hi lanefu
<lanefu> Werner: IgorPec redis cache configured and working on forum now
<Werner> Yep, just noticed.
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<lanefu> Werner: from jira notification? or like sudden change in performance
<Werner> Performance changed and then confirmed by checking acp
<lanefu> wow. great
<lanefu> probably not as noticable on my pinebook
<Werner> If the rendering device cannot render as fast as the server delivers the data...well ... :D
* lanefu closed 3 sysadmin tickets this weekend
<lanefu> i have a sense of accomplishment lol
<Werner> Well done
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<IgorPec> lanefu: thanks!
<IgorPec> productive weekend! :)
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<rneese> ?
<rneese> what got fixed
<rneese> I missed it all
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<IgorPec> rneese: those things are summed at release otherwise you can see progress in our Jira
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<lanefu> Werner: on the dark theme i'm not seeing the little icon at the bottom that helps me go back to top of page
<rneese> ah ok
<Werner> lanefu, never paid attention to this. need to take a look
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<Tony_mac32> lanefu you use that?
<Tony_mac32> ;)
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<lanefu> ha yeah on the feeds
<lanefu> i can use the homekey i guess
<lanefu> IgorPec: i keep on cracking up at the honesty of the name of your new improved_git function
* lanefu just reading 2 weeks of commit history
<Tony_mac32> I got a weird error git: 'User' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
<Tony_mac32> The most similar commands are
<Tony_mac32> ls-tree
<Tony_mac32> [ .... ] Git not responding. Retrying in 10 seconds.
<Tony_mac32> reset
<Tony_mac32> git: 'User' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
<Tony_mac32> The most similar commands are
<Tony_mac32> ls-tree
<Tony_mac32> reset
<Tony_mac32> during build w/patches option
<lanefu> compilation.sh line 851
<lanefu> looking
<lanefu> k
<lanefu> i have an idea
<lanefu> Tony_mac32: in general.sh line 1354
<lanefu> change $realgit $* to $realgit "$@"
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<lanefu> Tony_mac32: sorry line 203
<lanefu> lol
<Tony_mac32> ;-)
<Tony_mac32> it'll take a minute, I'm building a kernel
<lanefu> what were you building that broke it
<lanefu> i remembner seeing neko hit that a few days ago
<Tony_mac32> Rockchip (32-bit one
<Tony_mac32> )
<Tony_mac32> I'm adding the overlay compilation support as per one of the tickets
<lanefu> ahh 32bit, that was popular in teh 1960's i think
<Tony_mac32> psht
<lanefu> rofl
<Tony_mac32> boards with 16 and 32 bit RAM interfaces and sloppy A53's and people brag about 64 bit
<Tony_mac32> XD
* lanefu says guy who's sbc petting zoo cluster is mostly armvy
<Tony_mac32> I need to retry that MC1 cluster for small building
<Tony_mac32> also, distcc is way too nice when cohabitating with other CPY tasks, BOINC doesn't even throttle down the rosetta work packages
<Tony_mac32> slowing everything down
<lanefu> i really wanna find some compute workloads that aren't so ram hungry
<lanefu> like 512meg boinc
<Tony_mac32> a 2GB board is reasonable
<lanefu> lol
<Tony_mac32> a 1 is not
<Tony_mac32> and lol
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<Tony_mac32> RAM is not a real problem for what these guys are trying to do anymore
<Tony_mac32> what I want to see if an OpenCL work package
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<Tony_mac32> so I can get these Midgard Mali's cooking
<lanefu> whats OpenCL
<Tony_mac32> open compute library
<lanefu> is that a CUDA competitor?
<Tony_mac32> BOINC supports openCL, but only on intel/nvidia/AMD
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<lanefu> i should look more at some of the opencl stuff people do with home assistant i guess
<Tony_mac32> git error gone, how is it being fed "User"?
<lanefu> cool ill merge the fix
<Tony_mac32> I'm debating making a Linux board... and debating
<Tony_mac32> huh
<lanefu> it's a quirk in variable expansion
<lanefu> $* is based on field seperate
<ArmbianTwitter> lanefu: Error: "*" is not a valid command.
<lanefu> and $@ forwards the whole payload
<Tony_mac32> haha
<lanefu> field seperator
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<Tony_mac32> right, I got you, my BASH is only so strong
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<lanefu> TLDR; dumb bash shit, i got you covered
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<lanefu> Tony_mac32: uhmm tell me more about linux board
<lanefu> make me the perfect headless board
<Tony_mac32> playing with the idea for now, it would be more for embedded control than what we usualy handle here
<Tony_mac32> and it's the next logical step in my "learn to PCB reel good" path
<lanefu> what SoC do you think
<Tony_mac32> It's going to be an ST, Microchip, or similar
<Tony_mac32> The Duo is cool except it has no proper microcontroller capabilities, making the DIP package a bit weird
<Tony_mac32> you need a lot of external parts to do simple things that breadboards are good for
<lanefu> home/lane/GIT/build/.tmp/linux-source-current-sunxi_20.11.0-trunkkittens_all.deb
<lanefu> trunkkittens lol
<lanefu> myy would not be happy
<Tony_mac32> but, the last time I talked about a board I was thinking about on IRC someone built an eerily perfect version of it down to the ESP8266 module connector
<Tony_mac32> so
<lanefu> Tony_mac32: so this would be something with just like SPI flash and no networking?
<lanefu> where you just try to build a realtime kernel
<Tony_mac32> that's up for debate, lost of that class of processor have all the normal peripherals
<Tony_mac32> lots*
<Tony_mac32> so I think I'd keep an SD slot for obvious reasons
<Tony_mac32> I love the Giant Board for it's capability, but I really detest the form factor for anything so powerful
<Tony_mac32> the feather is such a waste when you start adding high-feature SoC's/micros to it
<lanefu> because of formfactor?
<Tony_mac32> no IO's
<Tony_mac32> it's so small
<lanefu> ahh yeah
<lanefu> man you know hoad a good design
<lanefu> who had
<lanefu> for thatg
<lanefu> the next thing CHIP
<lanefu> cuz 2 dual pin headers
<Tony_mac32> interestingly Groboards (Giant Board company) has one of those too
<Tony_mac32> lol
<lanefu> you could make a quad core update for my pocketchip
<lanefu> next thing guys had fun ideas, but were too american to succeed
<Tony_mac32> I don't follow, but I didn't pay attention to them
<Tony_mac32> are we talking manufacturing/sourcing issues?
<Tony_mac32> and so cost++?
<lanefu> mostly just kind of Start-up mindset
<lanefu> so yeah probably costs mismatched to reality
<lanefu> i mean they wanted to be the next thing :P
<Tony_mac32> ah, there is no next big thing in this market
<Tony_mac32> cost rules, or just plain brute-force capability that can't be matched
<Tony_mac32> good, kernel build succeeded, now to make an image and test overlay compilation
<Tony_mac32> I thought I had this in mainline, I guess not on Rockchip
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<lanefu> Tony_mac32: merge it and say how great my fix is https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/2262
<lanefu> if there was a contest for smallest commits, I would win by a landslide
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<IgorPec> lanefu shell we squeeze this inside https://github.com/armbian/build/issues/2260
<lanefu> man github needs the gitlab feature that lets you approve a merge request, and it will automagically merge upon test completion
<lanefu> IgorPec: yeah
<IgorPec> i hope not displaying anything is good enough
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<lanefu> IgorPec: i dont thikn that fixed 2260
<Tony_mac32> make it "waiting on Git" perhaps, less alarming
<lanefu> IgorPec: http://ix.io/2BaW :(
<IgorPec> probably we should return 1 in case it fails three times
<IgorPec> this is fresh build package?
<Tony_mac32> O:
<lanefu> IgorPec: yeah i thikn that was from my test build I made before i submitted PR
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<IgorPec> it works for me ok - when git is ok
<lanefu> interesting
<IgorPec> tried this way https://pastebin.com/4cHhEJKu
<lanefu> k let me do another build
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<lanefu> IgorPec: okay i built from master with git fix. and /etc/armbian-release looks fine
<IgorPec> yeah, this seems fixed
<IgorPec> i am now checking if we have n2 sound alright
<ArmbianTwitter> @armbian (armbian): RT @MariusNestor: Interview with the Founder of Fosshost, an Open Source Hosting Provider for #FOSS Projects https://t.co/VQTehZpDBP @fossh… (30s ago)
<IgorPec> eth01: what kind of arm64 server beasts did you get? Will that be available for some serious loads? Currently we still CC but we are considering to build natively in the future
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<Tony_mac32> I am trying to talk myself out of saving for https://www.solid-run.com/nxp-lx2160a-family/honeycomb-workstation/
<Tony_mac32> that is I think the cheapest of that class of devices
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<IgorPec> tony_mac32: i can ask for better price if you like?
<Tony_mac32> If you have that sort of power, sure. ;)
<IgorPec> i'll check it
<IgorPec> we haven't been working anything for a while - since humminboards
<IgorPec> i think worst case is some discount
<stipa> google DNS suck balls, was running pihole with google DNS and it crashed every two days, with open DNS it's going strong for 4 days already...
<IgorPec> ok, sound works on N2, finally
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<lanefu> IgorPec: we can test with aws graviton instances pretty easily
<IgorPec> how?
<lanefu> IgorPec: I can spin some up.. i've got an ansible role for bootstraping most armbian stuff
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<lanefu> so i guess it's just a matter of when we have a branch that's worth tinkering with
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<IgorPec> ok, well, currently we talk how to do it
<IgorPec> more recents are directly from arm
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<lanefu> oh cool
<lanefu> do we have any jira tickets yet for native builds?
<ArmbianHelper> AR-457 [Story] "New build server" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2020-10-03. Status: To Do
<IgorPec> needs adjusting tittle
<IgorPec> so as you can see we already have some movement
<lanefu> yeah gotta take advantage of it.. i'll get a box spin up for you to test on
<IgorPec> wait until its done :)
<IgorPec> must call it for tonight
<IgorPec> see you around
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<archetech> got a ubu 20 vm up now to try that lfu image
<lanefu> w00t
<archetech> whyd ya name it spooky?
<archetech> this arm5te is a sad nas
<archetech> usb2
<lanefu> beecause i had gotten my halloween lights working an hour before i made it
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<archetech> lol
<archetech> using etcher 200MB for this little app
<archetech> thats spooky
<archetech> whats hidin in there
<lanefu> that's just what happens when you write stuff in nodejs
<lanefu> nodejs dependenciese are the worst bloat ever
<archetech> or go
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<lanefu> go compiles down to something quite lean
<lanefu> nodejs is interpreted
<archetech> some tiny app pulls go in which is 300mb
<archetech> yay I think on arch
<archetech> aur pm
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<archetech> fs resize hmm
<rneese_> spooky mulder
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